G&T

Well Thanksgiving is tomorrow so I have to do some shopping. What's everyone planning for tomorrow? Mixing up a batch of hot buttered rum? Breaking out some good saisons (a great idea for the variety of foods on the table)? I'm thinking a bottle of Saison Dupont avec les bons voeux for dinner. Maybe whipping up a good eggnog recipe for later. I also highly recommend the above mentioned saison dupont for anyone thinking of bringing an interesting beer to a party. Even the snobbiest of beer snobs (and probably some wine snobs) will be proud and it should be easy to come by at a decent beer store. It is also universally liked by those who aren't beer geeks. Oh, and it will go nicely with dinner, dessert, appetizers, or on its own. Yeah...I'm getting that.

Truth is that partisan news isn't news.

Fair enough. If there is one thing from them I love it's the Indian Brown. In other news. I cracked a Lagunitas Our Own Bavarian-Style DoppelWeizen. Damn good for $5 a bomber. A bit sticky on the pallate but a real nice banana, apple and pear aroma. Syrupy caramel flavor that lacks any real depth. But the 9% abv is hidden (a stat I had forgotten before cracking on a Monday) and for the price it works well. Lagunitas, along with Southern Tier, are two breweries I just somehow overlooked for the past few years. I am happily rectifying that situation

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 12:30 PM) ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman The fact Bears say they hope Cutler is able to return before end of regular season means QB had positive visit with specialists this morning Lovie reiterated this in his presser. They plan for him to be back before the end of the regular season.

This is such a "Chicago" thing to happen.

QUOTE (SouthSideTeacher @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) Pat Mannelly out for season with busted knee. perfect. :/ I guess you and Dan McNeil can mourn that loss.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) I had absolutely no idea whatsoever. On Futurama, Leela describes the moment Bender comes flying from space into their vicinity when they were searching for him as "by a wide margin, the least likely thing that has ever happened". Oh. When you said that your were thinking of one particular event, I figured meant that you were thinking of one particular event. It has bugged me for a while...dammit.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) I disagree. Horrible Bosses felt that way to me. Agree. Horrible Bosses was a mess.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) I was asking a question, looking for a good opinion of an answer. There isn't an answer out there that anybody knows. What was the event you were thinking of?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 24, 2011 -> 03:03 PM) OK, I have an odd question. I got the idea from Futurama. What do you think is the least likely thing to have ever happened? Life itself is probably the best answer, but I'm thinking about one particular event. What was the answer to this?

down 5-1 with 4 mins left in the first. That's not gonna work.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 07:50 AM) That is a great feeling. Unfortunately local pride only goes so far. Our local micro continues to do a bang-up job and produces consistently quality stuff. But our local brewpub — a former GABF medalist — has gone into the crapper over the last few years. The stuff they are churning out now is undrinkable and I'm sure it is only a matter of time before they give it up. Very sad, because a couple of brewmasters ago they used to hit it out of the park with several of their offerings. My big dilemma coming up in a couple of weeks. . . I have been waiting for a 24-tap Dogfish Head beer event occurring December 1st at one of the three really good local beer bars. And now I have learned that my daughter's holiday band concert and spaghetti dinner fundraiser is the same night! Oh, the Humanity! I was actually offered one of the last 2 bottles of the Pearl Jam tribute Faithful that my local shop had. I turned it down. I think it's like $17 for a Belgian golden ale. Sorry Dogfish Head, I won't pay that price for a style that has been masterfully done for far less mone by so many breweries. Dogfish Head has some really good stuff but their prices are ridiculous and most of their "extreme" beers suck. My point is, I wouldn't feel bad about going to that concert which I am certian you will be attending if you don't want your wife to kill you.

Went and filled my growler at the local establishment today. Small brew pub with exceptional beers called Browns. I think I've mentioned them before. If anyone actually knew when they were releasing their seasonals, they would have a great following. Their rauch is the best American rauch I've had and their oatmeal stout is the best I've ever tasted (though sometimes inconsistent). The dunkelweizen was calling and I'm gonna guess I drink this whole growler. Aroma is a bit lacking where but it has a nice thick mouth feel with banana and caramel notes. Lacks a bit of effervescence, but that is almost certainly due to the growler. Why is it that beer just seems better when it was made down the street?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Nov 17, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) so, should puerto rico be a state? I'm pretty sure there's no real benefit to them.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 17, 2011 -> 09:04 PM) Well clearly there is a second victim mentioned in the article. told ya

I'd be shocked if the ball boy was the only one.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 17, 2011 -> 08:03 PM) The new Syracuse child-sex scandal is the most disturbing thing I've ever heard. Ugh. What?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 11:48 PM) How do you mean "rare"? I always assumed they were pretty rare as well, but I never thought of the number. I probably would have said something like roughly a few hundred in a big city. It's something I could never wrap my mind around, and always figured most pedophiles were that way because they were abused or neglected. I don't know that I have a number but I would guess that any average subdivision in the Chicago suburbs has one. Not all are abducting and raping children. Many have piles of kiddy porn. Others sexually abuse their kids and no one finds out. There are probably different terms for these people but I'm lumping them together. But you are right it seemed common that they were abused in their homes by their parents. Thing about this: back before the internet there were actual child porn magazines that went through the mail (I've never independently verified that but I was told that by someone that would not make that up). So there were enough people to have an organized collection of pictures and distribution of magazines.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) Why is that legal? Seems ripe for abuse. To protect the beneficiaries who were not involved and had no knowledge. I can't state that there are no arguments that might get around the trust formation for the creditors, but given Joe's age and faculties I think the move is probably objectively valid. However, if the wife knew that Paterno was covering this up and had knowledge of the conspiracy then she may be liable anyway and the trust would be meaningless. Additionally, there could be something in PA that would invalidate the transfer to a close relative where it appears that the move was made to avoid creditors. In any event, the house isn't worth that much. Paterno is getting something like a $500k a year pension, which can be reached. I'm sure there are millions in assets that have been moved. The house is probably the tip of the iceberg.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 01:39 PM) Peek into the minds of Boy Lovers aka Pedo's http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-we...bliss-olsen.php I worked for a summer in a special victims unit of a DA's office. That's the type of trash that we would get. Some monster would be caught with a kid or talking about meeting a kid, computer confiscated, and all these transcripts of messages like those would be on my desk to sort through. I read very little at that link but it reminds me of exactly how I felt back then. The act is horrific enough, but I always assumed they felt guilty for their actions. They don't. I also assumed pedos were rare. They aren't. That would be why I have no remorse for those who covered this up.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 01:19 PM) Ha I didnt even read the article. Anyway its still the same reasoning, the only reason you put it in a trust that is run by your wife is if you want your wife to have the asset. If the asset is in the Joe Paterno and Wife Trust, its still not Paterno's asset and therefore generally not subject to a turnover order. I guess Penn law could be different and maybe there is some potential liability on a joint trust, just generally thats not the case. I think if he we both trustee and beneficiary the asset could be reached to the extent of his interest. In other words, you can't hide assets in a trust while retaining the benefit and management of the assets. But that's all dependent on form, state law, etc. But your concept is right. I can't think of a real reason to take the form they did except to prevent Joe's creditors from reaching it. And the form they took is pretty much airtight regardless of the state.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) Its odd. But if you were just trying to shield assets isnt the simplest plan to create a trust and put the asset in the trust? The only actual explanation is that Paterno wanted to give his wife the house so that she would have an asset of her own that she could do whatever she wanted with. Any other motive just (imo) makes no sense. It looks like it was placed in trust with the wife as trustee and beneficiary. The original article says the wife's name as trustee.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) But there are also sometimes tax reasons, not related to death and estate, that you want assets in the name of one or the other. Well there could be other reasons entirely. One explanation could be old Joe's brain isn't so good. They may be moving everything to her name before he goes demented and they don't care about tax consequences.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 10:29 AM) Maybe it's just to make the transition easier for his wife when the inevitable happens? I mean, the guy's 84. If the property is jointly held with survivorship rights, it legally passes at the moment of death to the wife. All you do is send the death certificate to whoever holds the records to make it official on the books. It would be far easier not to sell it.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 09:41 AM) Once the grand jury started, I think Paterno knew there were rough waters ahead. So, OBVIOUSLY he knew something was up and he might be responsible. Since it was a jointly owned house, there would be no estate tax reasons to do this if he died, correct? I think his interest would have been taxable actually. But there are exclusions that might have applied. Who knows? But this raises other issues of sale for less than fair market value (income tax), and what happens if the wife dies first? Now the entire property is taxable rather than 1/2. (edit: this transfer was made in trust with wife as trustee so the last sentence doesn't apply). I'm sure this happens on occassion based on the health of the parties, and I'm sure Joe will die first, but it is worthy of raising eyebrows. The kicker here is that, if I recall how tort claims work, once the claims against him were made, his 1/2 interest in the property would have been reached by the claimant even after his death. So his wife would have been liable to the extent of the 1/2 interest. By transferring it before the claims were made, it is now the individual asset of the wife and can't be reached.