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I updated the preview article (in the OP) to reflect the Lawrie trade. Draft starts in 30 minutes.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 07:50 AM) I bet they draft an infielder or outfielder to compete for a bench spot. One thing the team doesn't need, IMO, is a utility infielder. Saladino and Sanchez both look better than the options available to me. My guess is, they don't pick anyone. But if they do, they grab an arm. More likely, they will lose someone. And of course they will probably be active in the minor league phase.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) I am not as high on Anderson as most here, I don't think he has the defense to be SS and there aren't a lot of other places for him to play. I would include him in a trade for a lot of guys, but only if I was able to get another SS back in the deal or a corresponding deal. While I get the doubts on Anderson, the reports I've read and what I've seen with my own eyes tell me he's getting pretty decent there already. And he's raw, so he should develop further. Also the idea that there aren't other places for him to play seems pretty off to me. He's got the tools for 2B, 3B or CF. Plenty of options if necessary, but honestly I don't think it will be necessary anyway. Probably.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) Because you have been played by taking the Donald seriously. QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:39 PM) I'm glad you see it, too. Now you're just trolling. No one here is taking what he says any more seriously than you are. Well, except maybe greg.

Merged the Rule 5 threads, all right here. Preview link in the OP. Draft happens at 9am CT Thursday.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) Excellent comeback. You just accused the entire board of being played, by pointing out things you supposedly know, that everyone else does too. Thus I find that the appropriate response.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:34 AM) Here's something for you to nibble on. Take it with a grain of salt since the projected Sox pick is based on need and not BPA. I found it amusing. http://www.draftutopia.com/2016mlbmockdraft.html That article was... why did I read that? That was awful. I'm pretty sure that writer knows nothing about how the draft works.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) No, no one on this forum wants to believe that they've been played, but they (and you) have been. lol lololololol

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) Can we keep this thread about Lawrie?

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) i remember thinking the same thing about Thome. i remember thinking the same thing about Dunn. i remember thinking the same thing about LaRoche. i'm sure if we get Upton, he'd have a career LOW year. hahahahaha

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) Delaware cop gets off scot-free after punting innocent black man’s head like a football on video That's awful. Nothing warranted that action by the cop, whatsoever. Subject was compliant in every way. And that guy is going back on the street?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:27 AM) He's a life long reality tv media whore, so much so he was doing it before reality tv even existed. Throughout the 80's, Trump and his crazy marriage in the media was basically the entire Kanye/Kim storyline BEFORE Kanye/Kim. He says outlandish things because it makes people notice him, not because he actually means any of it...and people keep falling for it over and over. This presidential race is nothing but more reality tv to him, and unlike his opponents, he doesn't have to spend a dime. Nearly all of the things Trump is saying CANNOT EVEN BE DONE, and he KNOWS THAT. He's NOT the dumbass people try to make him out to be. lol, OK. Yes clearly none of us know he's doing it to get attention. And by none of us you mean almost all of us. Also, people like that get into a feedback loop. They start believing their own act and become cartoons without realizing it. And yeah, he does believe some of it, he just won't filter it. There's nothing about the guy that people here are missing. No one in this forum has been played.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:24 AM) http://www.pennlive.com/news/2015/12/namin...cart_river_home QUOTE (Cknolls @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:27 AM) Give them their safe space and some diapers and maybe some free tuition and they can move along with their sorry ass lives... How is that even related to the topic?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:30 AM) You can say the same thing about hitting statistics but many on here seem to ignore his half dozen seasons of poor hitting in the minors in favor of the 25 games he hit well in the majors. Well that's an oversimplification too, from them and you. He improved his contact rate consistently as he went up the line, power was almost always there, and he drew some walks. Saying he had six poor hitting seasons isn't really accurate either. More accurate to say he struggled with contact but improved with time, and there are still questions about the hit tool. Power is real. He also made some significant changes in Charlotte this year that were important. Basically, you should put only small emphasis (but not none) on his 1.5 months in the majors this year STATISTICALLY. More important from that time is, he looked the part, at least for me.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) I think you're using the term beast a little loosely here. Sure he is a good outfielder but he's not gold glove quality. Using UZR/150 he would have ranked 35th amongst all outfielders with at least 200 innings played. Had he played a full season he would have been roughly 25th in DRS. While that is good, it's not good enough if he can't manage a .700 OPS. Metrics in his short stint are pretty close to useless. He'd be a plus or plus-plus corner guy, and at least above average if not plus in CF, in my view. don't care about gold gloves, but he'd be very good out there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) I have said before, and will say again, I can't stand Sanders ideas, but at least I can trust the guy. I know what he stands for, and what he wants to do. The rest of the fields? No f***ing clue. Honestly, Trump is the one person who might make me vote for Hillary. Trump and Clinton have more in common than you might think. While their styles are 100% different, they both are going to say and do whatever they think will get them elected, and not what they think is right. Honestly, I am not sure either one of them has any real stances that they absolutely believe in, other than power. Trump has identified with a specific group, and will do or say whatever he thinks they want to here to try to get himself elected. At this point, why would he stop? It has put him solidly in front of the polls, as disgusting as that thought it. I have no doubt that if he base started to evaporate, he's discard their opinions and find new ones that were more popular. Hillary just follows the polls when it comes to her opinions. She is obviously much less of a showman, and hasn't thrown her lot with an obvious bunch of idiots as of today, but I have no doubt if the polls told her to pick up some of those same ideas, she would. Let's not forget how many things originated under the Clinton watch that are now absolutely repulsive, such as the Don't ask, don't tell ideas, the protection of marriage act, and the birther movement. But now polls have shifted, and so has she. Only in common in that both will swing with polls to get elected. But No chance Hillary has the lack of boundaries for it that Trump does. No way. Trump is "special" that way. Not to mention that the polls she swings around on don't put her into hate territory. Their stance on same-sex marriage doesn't look great, but never did they imply some group of people should be deported or kept out en masse, which Trump has done with multiple groups now. Not even close. And that comes from someone who would rather anyone by Hillary gets the Dem nod.

By the way if anyone wants to do any supposition about prospects involved, here is the mid-season Top 30 prospects list. Its from July/August so some things have shifted, and there are a few guys not on there that likely will be in January, but you get the idea.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) I feel like the Sox should sell high on Engel now. He was a nobody before the AFL, and now he's on the radar. It's time to capitalize on his value. It's not quite that black and white. He was not a nobody, he was a prospect to watch in the system, Top 20 on the back end. AFL made him pop a bit more, but so did his improved plate discipline in A+ this year and his very strong defense. He's not on the radar purely for AFL - scouts and analysts aren't that gullible. He's always been seen as pretty high-ceiling.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 08:05 AM) Keep this in mind if you are voting in a Democratic primary: Hillary is such a lying, conniving b**** that I'll even vote for somebody as insane as Trump or Cruz if those are the two choices. And I'm not alone. I'm not a fan of a big chunk of Bernie's ideas, but I at least find the man to be trustworthy enough to vote for him over somebody like Trump or Cruz. Bizarre. I mean, I despise Hillary, but how can you even compare the two? Trump is - and yes I am going here - more and more approaching Hitler levels. The parallels are striking. Just replace "Muslims" with "Jews". The guy is a lunatic (and fortunately only supported by about 6% of the country - the lunatic fringe). I would rather have the most extreme policy people (Sanders? Paul?) than a person who might as well be that racist uncle you pretend isn't in your family. The guy is not only incapable of leading at that level, he's driven by hate and bigotry. I've vote for every single candidate running in either party, that I've ever seen run in 6 election cycles in my voting lifetime, than Trump and by a country mile.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:54 AM) more like guessing Not sure what you mean here. I mean, of course I am guessing, if that is what you mean - but I was just pointing out where the lack of walks can have multiple meanings. Or do you mean the hitter is guessing?

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:38 AM) Avi, Engel, May, Webb, Putnam, Beck, Lowry, Leyer, Wheeler, Wendelken, Fry, Jaye....Just keep the package to 1 of those OF's and 1 of those pitchers and it's a good deal for us. Hopefully Hahan doesn't deviate too far from a package like that. Jace Fry is down recovering from his 2nd TJ surgery, likely doesn't pitch again until late 2016. He has zero trade value, especially given the patchy track record of pitchers who have had 2 TJ surgeries.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:35 PM) I will take a 3B with good defense and some pop. If he doesn't walk much oh well, Sox aren't really in a position to acquire a player who does everything well. My idea all along has been grab a handful of players who do a minimum of two things very well, and maybe aren't great the rest. Emphasis on baserunning and defense. Matsuda provides a defensive upgrade and probably some HR power, that's enough to keep me sated. The problem with a lack of walks in this case isn't just the direct effect. It is perhaps an indicator that they lack plate discipline and would struggle to hit consistently against MLB pitching.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:24 AM) I'm gonna guess Danish and May I think they want at least one player who could be ready in 2016, and neither of those will be, most likely. Also with Danish, since he had his first rough year in 2015, the Sox would be selling low. But either one could go certainly. For position players, I see Avi/Thompson, but also May, Engel, Coats, E Alvarez, Michalczewski, Peter and maybe Narvaez as potential fits. For arms, although the system is dense in good arms, most aren't close to ready. So that's a tough call, could be any of a doze or more if they are willing to go less-developed. QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:24 AM) I wonder if the Sox are trying to get more than Lawrie from Oakland. Good call, if OAK asked for more in prospects, Sox may be looking to offset.

Beck seems unlikely to me, due to his missing most of 2015 and having elbow surgery (ulnar nerve transversal, same as Micah - not TJ). If it could be Avi combined with a lower level arm like Guerrero or the like, that is OK with me (though I like Guerrero). Engel would be the most upsetting among that crowd in my view, I think he's primed to break out.

Saw Empire and Jedi in theaters in their original edition. Didn't make Star Wars, I was only 5 years old at the time.