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I am not interested in placeholders or half-assed plans to go for it. The list of guys you gave is bunch of guys who are short term guys, older guys, or guys with significant injury history... or more than one of the above. At this stage I am not interested in putting a 78 win team out on the field so we can improve from a 73 win team, and in the meantime blocking kids we need to evaluate, or open up spots for them to play every day. Today is about sorting through the Palka's and Delmonico's of the world so that we know where we stand when the big wave of position players starts to hit. We have a potential superstar CF in Luis Robert and another potential very good CF in Luis Gonzales in the system. No, I don't want to block them with an injury riddled large contract player in AJ Pollack. If Robert and Gonzalez bust, and we need a CF in two years to make this a playoff team, then the next AJ Pollack will be out there. The exception to me is franchise changing players. If you get a guy that is going to fit into a position as a star for the next 5 to 7 years, then you do it. If you can pull in Bryce Harper, Manny Machado or even Clayton Kershaw, then you do it. Odds are extremely high that all of those guys are going to be better than anyone we have a chance at generating in our system during that time frame. No other FAs this year can you say that about. It isn't about the payroll, it is about maximizing the rebuild. It is about getting every guy directly from the system possible so that we have the most assets possible left when it is time to win (both players and money). We started this rebuild largely due to fans calls for it. Now is not the time to chuck that into the lake and quickly reverse course before this has run its course. This is still the "passive" stage of the rebuild as you call it. Once we start to turn the corner, there will be plenty of time to Go For It. If we get to a point where this is an 85 win team that could be a 90-95 win team with additions, that is when we should change course and look at more additions. That could be 2019, 2020, or even later. As we stand today we are trying to fight off 100 losses this year, and looking at probably the low to mid 70's again next year. There is no good reason to add middle of the ground window dressing yet. Roster filler? Sure. 2nd and 3rd tier FA's? No thanks.
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Anderson, Moncada, and the lesson of Joe Crede
southsider2k5 replied to Greg Hibbard's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If you are trying to say that Anderson and Moncada are not good defensive players, you aren't being very accurate. First off Joe Crede really wasn't known as a good defender until a few years into his career, and definitely not right off of the bat. Secondly, Anderson already IS a very good defensive player, and Moncada outside of a really bad midseason defensive slump, has had a solid defensive year, and has all of the tools to be a gold glover in the same time frame that it took Crede to become one. -
What members of the organization said this?
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It would be ideal if Nate can comeback next year and start out as the closer. That makes slotting the rest of the kids behind him all the easier.
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Race for the worst 2018 record (Top 5 pick) again
southsider2k5 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It is super early, but the earliest leaders at the top are a couple of college catchers, the kids from Oregon State and Baylor, along with Bobby Witt Jr. -
I don't think the team is particularly worried about Kopech options.
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Race for the worst 2018 record (Top 5 pick) again
southsider2k5 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
No. The higher draft pick is worth more to us than the Cubs status. The only way I want to see the Sox streak is it it means hot streaks from Yoan, Anderson and guys in this ilk. -
Race for the worst 2018 record (Top 5 pick) again
southsider2k5 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
No. The Cubs status is a waste of time for White Sox fans. -
Unless he is absolutely terrible in the spring of 2020, he will be on the opening day roster.
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But not so little as to not post about how little you care.
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This is why you push pitchers to grow their innings as they move up in the system. If you want them to pitch in October eventually, they have to be able to get through September.
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The pitching staff is the place I am least interested in adding to in general. Dickey or Gonzalez probably wouldn't have mattered in 2018. As it turned out, by losing Gonzalez, we actually got the chance to give a long term audition to Dylan Covey and see the progress he made this year. It wasn't all bad. You can make the same argument about a guy like Danny Farquar. Sure we could have signed someone who might have pitched all year, but we saw more relievers in the pen because of his illness, and it allowed us to do some more evaluations on players in our system. I kind of feel like we should see the same approach in 2018's off season. If we can add a 7-10 year cornerstone piece on the free agent market, go for it. If not, stick to roster filler to leave spots available as guys move up the system and are ready for Chicago. We have people pushing through the system, who will need spots. I am more interested in seeing what we can do internally first, then once we figure that out, using those resources to fill holes once we identify them. I don't want to see moderate contracts in the middle age ranges. No 3 year deals. No $50-150 million contract. Machado or Harper, or roster filler.
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The 100% absolute priority for 2018 was to answer as many questions as possible about 2018 level players. Flippables are nice and all, but realistically the most important thing we could do was figure out what the players we already had could do. Past that, adding in roster filler as some spots was needed, and while Gonzalez bombed this year, I had no problem with what we knew coming into 2018 giving him the deal he got. He had pitched well for us, and he was valuable enough to bring back TiQuan Forbes in a similar situation last year. As for RA Dickey, I will mention a couple of things here. #1, he did not sign this year with anybody. Why would you expect a guy that no one wanted would have trade value in a few short months? Add to that, look at the numbers James Shields put up in 2018, notice that no one wanted him either, and see how similar those numbers are to Dickey's 2017.
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For lack of a better term, he looks like he is trying to be more hitterish at this time.
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For tonights game.
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