Everything posted by southsider2k5
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OBAMA/TRUMPCARE MEGATHREAD
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 09:30 AM) There's a difference between a Medicare for all like system, which is what the progressive wing of the party pushes for, and a nhs/va style system where the government is actually the Healthcare provider. The intent of the law was to greatly expand coverage while also curbing costs. If our current private insurance system can't support that, good riddance. We also still have the majority of Americans getting their coverage through non- exchange plans, so while the struggles the exchanges are seeing in some states aren't good, it's not the total destruction of the private health insurance industry. There is the "intent" of the law, and then there is the intent of the law. I have no doubt the government won't be content just controlling insurance, they then will want to control medication distribution and the actual practice of medicine, that they they can control "costs" to save us all.
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OBAMA/TRUMPCARE MEGATHREAD
QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 03:50 PM) First, stop calling it "free". Second, yes, the system is bad, and becoming worse. Insurance for many is largely useless these days. Now, if you want to have the single payer system conversation, be prepared to be realistic about it, and get ready for some financial pain. Get ready for WAY higher taxes than you pay now. That's the trade off. And I'm talking 50+% for everyone, across the board. And even at those tax rates, I doubt it would cover the expenses necessary to continue care as it is, AND overhaul the entire system. If the government takes over the HC industry, they will have to cap wages, prices and drug prices at all once. Doctors, regardless of their speciality, won't be making 650k per year any longer, and big pharma will see tumbling profits to an insane degree. There will be a lot of hurt and pain for us adults for a long while. Keep in mind the US Govt can't even run the VA, and anyone that says they can is just sticking the head in the sand. The VA is terrible, and it's small fry in comparison to how big this takeover would be. In the end, even if they went to single payer -- and I believe they have too -- it'll be MANY years before anyone reaps the benefits of it... I said it years ago. This was the intent of this new system. You are witnessing the complete and total destruction of private insurance by government so that they can take it over. It is exactly why no one seems to care that all of these private insurers are leaving exchanges. When there are none left, then they get to pretend to "save" us by moving us over to a VA like system.
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The 90s and 00s Sox were basically the Braves of the same span
QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 03:59 PM) Keep going, your schtick definitely is not getting old or boring. [slow clap]
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Zach Duke Tommy John Surgery
He was throwing just fine when he left.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) Pence is worst than Trump because he's a socially conservative psychopath. Trump is a dope but Pence, if he became president would be really f***ing scary. I can't stand Pence, but I will give him credit for being intelligent and well read, even if I can't handle most of his positions.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) Multiple women come out of the woodwork accusing Bill Cosby of rape. Result? Life, reputation and career ruined. Multiple women come out of the woodwork accusing Donald Trump of sexual assault/rape. Result? Reasonable shot to be the next POTUS. What the f*** is wrong with our country? And I am in no way implying that Cosby is getting a raw deal. He has no shot at being President. Honestly the one thing this has done long term is ruin his brand. In the long term, he is going to see some pretty big financial problems because a lot of the world isn't going to want to be associated with him.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) When Glenn Beck worked for CNN, he was a reasonable, thoughtful guy I thought, I actually liked him even if I disagreed with most of what he said. Then Obama won the election in a huge tidal wave and Dems had a House majority and a supermajority in the Senate (even if only functional for a few weeks and mostly a mirage), and he went over to Fox and made a s***load of money selling fear and paranoia. It eventually got to be too much even for Fox but his media company still lived. Most of that s*** he does is just an act. Rush Limbaugh is the same thing honestly. If you go back into his pre-right wing radio show, he was nothing like this.
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (Boogua @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) Yesterday he was due for a bullpen session and only threw 7 pitches in game. He even said after the game that he'd be good to go for game 2 if need be. It might be game 3, but I wouldn't if I was roberts. Game 2, 5, and then out of the pen for 7 seems ideal. Think of his relief appearance as a side day.
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NCAA basketball thread 2016-17
QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 12:18 PM) I'm really confused by the people who think Illinois will finish 11th or 12th in the league. Perhaps it's my blind homerism, but I see a team with a conference player of the year, first team all big ten talent, a guy that shoots lights out from 3, two 6th year seniors (one of whom has had some success in the big ten in the past), and then a bunch of good athletes. Assuming they're healthy, I don't see how or why Illinois should finish worse than 7th. Teams that are absolutely better: Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan State. Everyone else is a big ?. Michigan lost its best player. Maryland has Trimble and a bunch of new guys. OSU is young. Penn State is young. Iowa will rely on Jok and young guys. I dunno. I see a deeper team with more "proven" talent than a lot of teams. Are people just assuming that last year was indicative of what will happen this year? Seems short sighted given Groce was missing 3/5th's of his starting line up and could barely play 7-8 guys. But when it happens, it will be the referees fault
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) It is not stopping them. I used to trumpet this but it does not appear to be slowing anything down. Construction projects are moving full speed ahead they are buying up land and spending money on infrastructure in and around the park. One thing Rickets family knows is how to make money. I used to thing they were cash poor but not any more. There is no way they sign Arrieta for 2018. Honetly I hope he gets $300 million from them.
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The 90s and 00s Sox were basically the Braves of the same span
QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) The '84 team was basically a carbon copy of the '83 team that nearly made the World Series plus the addition of Tom Seaver. Yet they somehow managed to lose 25 more games than the '83 team. They very much fit the definition of a very talented team that amounted to nothing. Bingo. Coming off a 99 win season too.
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Price rising for Sale and Q
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 01:08 PM) Guys. I'm just afraid these threads are setting us all up for disappointment. Always.
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) The Cubs have an amazing team and a great organization. They will need to find ways to overcome problems in the next few years with $$. I wonder what their max budget actually is, permitting there winning, they are a wealthy franchise (unlike our Sox). I think it's fair to say that their pitchers are due for a (large) regression. Lackey is old, hendricks is (imo) a question mark as to how he will perform next year, Arrieta is showing signs of being human, and while Lester is great, he is 32. Hopefully their able to overcome these issues as their hitting is absolutely stellar if it comes thru. The one thing they have that we don't is ass-loads of debt payment.
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) cub have no cash issues as seen from the heyward contract. They will pretty quickly.
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 11:15 AM) Hendricks has been a revelation but Arrieta and Lester ain't getting any younger or cheaper. They'll need more pitching. Arrietta is about to see his cost go nuclear.
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Price rising for Sale and Q
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) Not for that offer above you wouldn't. Moncada AND Benintendi AND Kopech AND more? Asking for Nate Jones in a deal like that makes a ton of sense for Boston.
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2016-17 NHL Thread
It was a one goal game until they pulled Crawford at the end. They were fine.
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 07:40 PM) Trust me I checked that it wasn't them. Why would a FB group or org make a single account to post on sports message boards? Those accounts are personal accounts. When you post like you do you make people curious. None of this is creepy. If you're a Cubs fan that's fine with me. But the way you post about them on here is just welcoming scrutiny. Some might even call it trolling... Edit: Just saw your post ss2k5. I won't post about this in here any further. You are fine. It was the Cub fans actively celebrating and mocking Sox fans. That will not be tolerated here.
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2016-17 NHL Thread
QUOTE (zenryan @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Will there be any more Matthews apparel in the Toronto arena team store after tonight's game? That goal where he stole the puck and stick handled everyone in the building was a goal of the year type of highlight reel play. WOW>
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The 90s and 00s Sox were basically the Braves of the same span
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) 2006 team just off the top of my head. I'd also include the 1917 team, the 1964 and 1983 clubs. Again that's off the top of my head without a serious examination. Mark The 2006 team won 90 games. The 1984 team is one that absolutely bombed.
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NLCS: Cubs vs Dodgers
QUOTE (Deadpool @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Nice broken link there. It's not uncommon. it's the alumni group. https://twitter.com/AustinILLINI https://facebook.com/AustinILLINI And thank god there are creeps out there who go and find people they don't like to make Soxtalk a better place. Creepy much? Stuff like that tends to happens when you actively troll groups of people.
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2016 Republican Thread
I can't find it now, but earlier the FOP endorsement of Trump was talked about. According to this survey, police support Trump over Clinton by 84 to 8%. Even Gary Johnson got 5%. http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/ar...ntial-poll.aspx
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) It's a good parallel in some ways. Only instead of Mexican immigrants, the big target was American Indians (though in the latter case, it was the Americans doing the illegal immigration). Jackson not only deployed the removal policy, he outright encouraged violent ends by civilians for any AmerInd people who didn't move. That was one of the things that absolutely came to mind.
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2016 Republican Thread
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) The whole thing about the GOP is that Trump was never electable. There were 6 to 8 of those other candidates that were electable and 2 or 3 that would have won simply becasue Hillary is not well liked. The way the GOP played is rather disgraceful as republicans kind of handed the presidency to HRC. I fully agree with you.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) Jackson, Pierce and Buchanan are the easy top 3. Thinking about it for a few minutes, and leaving all of the typical hyperbole behind of Nazi, fascist etc behind, Andrew Jackson might be the best comp for a Donald Trump presidency. And yes, I am going to post that on facebook too