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I always respected Prince as an entertainer. He pushed the boundaries of showmanship like guys like Freddy Mercury and David Bowie did. What I didn't realize for a long time was how much talent he had as a guitarist too until I saw him play during this Beatles tribute. Prince really takes over and puts some historically great guitarists to shame at about the 3:30 mark of this video. I mean that is Petty, Winwood, and Lynne on stage with him, and they all took a side to Prince. #RIPPrince

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 10:56 AM) Again forget about WAR. Austin Jackson has a better WAR than Fowler but who do you want on your team? A guy who gets on base at a 370 clip or a guy who can't get on base. We need a 2 hole hitter not a number 9 hitter. Sure Jackson is a better fielder but thats why we have defensive replacements. We need a 2 hole hitter that won't cost us our minor leagues. He fits the bill perfectly no matter what his WAR says. And flowers was a great pitch framer, lol. Meaningless I am not going to leave out a valid piece of research just because you don't like it. It doesn't work like that. The metrics can be bulky in sample sizes, but we have five years of negative ratings in a row from Markaikis. That is plenty for me to believe that he is a bad defender. All defensive metrics except pitch framing said that Flowers was a bad defender, so you only shooting yourself in the foot right there. You also have to go back to 2013 to find Fowler with a better WAR than AJax, so I am not sure what you are seeing there.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) Danks aside, how about this turnaround on defense? Defensive numbers so far: DRS: 6th ARM: 5th UZR: 7th UZR/150: 6th Overall Def: 5th Should also note the Sox currently have the 5th ranked defensive catching tandem. Atlanta is 26th. I have said it before I saw the numbers, this team is SO much better defensively this year. Honestly, this post should probably be its own thread, because it deserves to be talked about.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) All the dead weight from last year has been moved aside from Garcia. I really don't care what a guy did to us years ago when those guys are not with the team anymore. It makes no sense to think otherwise. Do you think seeing that White Sox logo sparks something in Weaver that magically makes him pitch better? Also, Weaver has a 6.05 FIP this year versus 4.64 for Danks. How is that better again? It obviously isn't about the logo, that is just silly. It is about the match up itself. There is a reason that Weaver has pitched well historically again us, and that is we have a team full of free swingers who chases a lot of stuff out of the strike zone. Avi Garcia is absolutely one, but so is a guy like Jose Abreu. Think Bruce Chen. This team has problems against this type of pitcher historically.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) And this year Weaver is 3 MPH slower and the Sox have 5 different guys in the starting lineup than they did in that game last year. His history against the Sox means little to nothing at this point. But if we want to play that game, Danks has a 3.12 career ERA with a 1.177 WHIP against the Angels in his career and a 3.14 ERA and a .977 WHIP against them last year. Funny how I don't see you mentioning that. Oh yea, doesn't fit the agenda. lol, @ the agenda. Weaver has historically owned us, and has also done so recently. Even taking Danks numbers into account, Danks numbers this year are worse than Weaver's, as are his numbers against the Angels when compared to what Weaver has done to us both recently and historically. So I am still not following what you are selling. Hopefully I am wrong and all, but it really seems like the more garbage a pitcher throws up there, the worse this team does against them. My guess would be it is because we have a team full of guys that swing at junk they can't hit, which plays right into the hands of a guy like Weaver who throws nothing straight or in the middle of the zone.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) That is not the same guy that the Sox will be facing today. Weaver barely cracks 80 MPH now versus 90 in his prime. This new version of Weaver had a FIP higher than John Danks last year. Doesn't matter. Last year he shut us out over 6 1/3, giving up only 5 hits and getting 5 K's.

QUOTE (Brutus @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 09:59 AM) Hello everyone... New to the board. GO SOX! Welcome to Soxtalk!

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) Thinking about Danks numbers. Before expansion, he would have been teaching a PE class somewhere and impressing the kids with his stuff. During the steroid era his numbers would have been middle rotation.

Adam Eaton

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:19 AM) Karen Lewis called Rauner an ISIS recruit and a liar yesterday. Further showing how strong of a mayoral candidate she was. It struck me listening to a clip of it exactly how Donald Trump like she sounded.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 09:16 AM) Does that mean all that much though when this Sox team is vastly different than all the other Sox teams he faced? We'll find out in a few hours. For my two cents, I am not optimistic.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 09:02 AM) Proof is in the pudding but were due and Danks is due for a gem. I'm gona say that's today. If we win today and take 3 of 4 I'll be tickled to death after Monday's debacle. Weaver career vs the White Sox. 10-2 1.99 era 86IP 84K 15BB 65H 0.93 WHIP

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:55 AM) We built a trebuchet as a final project for our physics class. Most of the other groups' were table-top models. Ours was brought in on a flatbed trailer and we used a couple hundred pounds of weights from the weight room. It threw a 5 lb sledge hammer head 100 yards or so from what I remember. What I'm saying is you should definitely build functional siege weapons. Did you watch the last Mythbuster where they built one with duct tape instead of nails, screws and such? If not, it is worth a watch.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) It's a Chicago team in 1st place. There should be a bigger crowd than that. Rodon was pitching, it was a nice night, and the Sox are in 1st place. Sox fans didn't show up in September of 2012 for a first place team. They sure aren't going to show up in April.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 08:13 PM) Just wondering: what are the odds that Carson Fulmer is in Charlotte by July 25? I'd say pretty good. I think his start has been a blip, and he will be rocking again in no time.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:27 AM) Why? Saladino played great defensively at third last year. Exactly.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:10 AM) Apparently Saladino can play a competent 1B. Frazier does as well, obviously. We could always shift Frazier to first and start Saladino at third if needed. This would be the best alignment. Way too much panic for a back up 1B. Also, again, say a special thanks to Adam LaRoche!

I hate going against Jared Weaver. He is the type of pitcher that just kills us.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 12:09 AM) it's his fault there tanking? Yea right. No one said is was a good contract. Hell 70% of them are mistakes but if you think he sucks your crazy. I never said he was great but for the 2 hole which is our biggest weakness he is perfect. You don't want 40 doubles and a 370 OBP batting 2nd or do your metrics tell a different story. And if you don't think he is a wayyy better fielder than Cabrera your off your rocker. Not even close. IMO he is the easiest guy to get without giving up much. But OBP is something the Sox don't think is valuable but its going to kill this team before the seasons over. It is his fault no one wants him when Atlanta would love to do nothing more than dump him like they did the rest of their vets. I know stats are out of your league and all, but taking a five year sample of dWAR shows Melky -3.8 Markaikis -4.9 The numbers show they are both bad in the OF, but Nick is clearly worse.

The pitching numbers are about as sustainable as the hitting numbers.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 08:52 PM) Wow over 130,000 posts and nothing said. Il give you a old message board saying" read more- post less". Andyour the guy who wanted Ian Desmond. Ya nice call on that one. Maybe you should get your face out of the computer and don't go by the metrics and actually watch some baseball for a change. Il give you a tip, you can learn something. Just follow this for a second now, Markaikis > than Cabrera in left= YES. Cabrera > DH than Garcia = YES. Markakis > than anyone in our 2 hole= YES. Our OBP > with Markaikis than what we have now= YES. Markakis > in clubhouse than without= YES. Don't have to bleed our minor leagues to get him> compared to some of the others like Cargo= YES. GET THE PICTURE? I CAN DO IT IN ALL CAPS IF IT WILL HELP. And i never said Markakis is a defensive wizard just that he's al huge step up from Cabrera. Out of all of that, Markakis might be an improvement over Garcia. The rest of it, not so much. The reason we wouldn't "bleed our minor leagues" is because he sucks and no one wants him for that contract. It was a mistake when it was signed, and is now a weight around his neck. If he was half as good as your eyes think he is, he'd be in demand. Instead is sitting on a team that is tanking and trading away every vet in sight. That should tell you something right there.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 04:56 PM) Apparently he wants 6/96. That's a lot of money for a guy who *maybe* has 4 years left Depending on the bonus money, that isn't that big of a deal. YOu can always cut someone.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) Why is that? Tell me one thing i said about Markakis and the White Sox that wasn't true? QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) He means Gold Gloves are worthless. Derek Jeter has 4 of them, that should say it all. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) And Cespedes won last year QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 06:17 PM) Scratch that he actually has 5 of them. Even worse. QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 07:50 PM) Then there's the year Palmero played about 30 games at 1b, rest at DH.... and won the GG for 1st. Thanks for the assists.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) What are you talking about? Last year he had a excellent year. 294 BA, 375 OBP and 39 doubles. How would you like that in the 2 hole? And his defensive is pretty good seeing he won the gold glove in 2014. And would fit right in out clubouse and wouldnt cost a arm and a leg like Cargo He would be well well above average in left field. We would improve the defense, 2 hole issue, OBP issue and wouldn't deplete the minors to do it. Speaking of what are you talking about, you just disqualified anything else in your posts with this statement.

Josh Nelson ‏@SSS_joshnelson 31m31 minutes ago Chicago, IL It took the White Sox 24 games to win 10 in 2015. They hit that mark in 15 games in 2016.