southsider2k5

We only need the dudes who think anyone can do 8 minutes

The White Sox will have a new stadium deal this year.

Sure, but the overall talent on the roster is decently worse.

And still haven't been replaced.

Him and Don Cooper not pushing guys to go 100% with every pitch.

This right here is important. While I think we might be a bit better and more stable on the back end, we are going to be giving up a legitimate one and two on the front end. The same game we might have been able to squeak 3-2 last year during a Fedde/Crochet start, turns into a 5-3 loss this year on the front end, while the game we lost 10-2 last year maybe turns into a 5-2 loss this year. While advanced stats see the pitching production at the "same" by balancing out the loss of the most horrible starts with the loss of the best wins, with the complete lack of offense, I don't think it will translate into as many wins as it would if we had an offense that could score runs with other teams in MLB. The only games we were really in last year were those quality starts. And I definitely don't think those guys survive the season in tact anyway. There will definitely be periods of time where we get a lot of bad starts in a row, just like we saw last year as some of these guys through growing pains. Injuries are going to happen for sure, as will some big ups and downs. I am also still not convinced that the bullpen will be substantively better than last year, and with as many innings as they will be covering, there will still be a lot of really bad pitchers throwing a lot of innings. This isn't going to be a lot of 7 innings and hand it to our 2 best pitchers to close (whoever those are this year).

Look, breaking a bone is never great, but it seems preferential to a back injury like this. It just doesn't seem to go away, and only gets worse.

I don't think it is any secret that Lip and I aren't the best of posting buddies, but I feel this is a completely misrepresenting his feelings. Decades of frustration building expectations of failure is different than "glee" over an injury.

I would be surprised TBH. Baseball player "shape" doesn't really dictate mileage types of training. They need to be fast for short sprints, and not over distance. A full out sprint around the bases is 360 feet. A mile is 5280 feet. It's a different type of fitness.

Yeah, a walking mile in eight minutes would hurt if you aren't doing it almost every day. It would be less impact to run it, than to try to racewalk 8 minute miles, if you were not a speedwalker. That hipswing isn't easy.

Don't sell yourself short. There are a LOT of people who couldn't hit an eight minute mile, and that is speaking as someone who broke 5 minutes in college a long time ago. I would bet a vast majority of people couldn't do it. Hell I couldn't do it today.

But you aren't qualified to decide that, by your own admissions, so run along.

It tells me they either don't think Jeanty will be there now, or they are looking at another player.

Since the predict threads are all of the rage for us morons this morning, let's get the annual Sox win prediction thread out there. Vote in the poll, but add your post to this thread, or it never happened.

moronic was your word to describe those on the message board, not mine. And this is what I am saying. Far from being a "moronic" guy on a message board, both the Sox and the Bulls questionable history here has been well documented publicly, and these questions have been asked out loud in a lot of places, including someone like Luol Deng. There have been questions about this team rushing guys back from injuries, misdiagnosing injuries and playing guys who are clearly injured. Do I know this last injury was done right or wrong? Do I know that someone else could have correctly diagnosed this? Absolutely not. But do I know that a "moron" on a message board is far from the first person to make this connection to an injury diagnosis that suddenly changes? Absolutely not. This has been an ongoing part of the public discourse over these JR owned franchise's failings for YEARS now, and will absolutely be justified in it's mentionings as long as they keep happening.

Nah, I recognized that by your own admission and standards as a guy on a message board you are just as "moronic" as those you are railing against. Even though you seem to believe you can't be possibly be informed enough to be speaking on this topic, yet you can't sit it out and yet here you are, not able to handle living up to your own standards.

The shin/tibia thing is also out there for him specifically.

What an impressive standard. They are smarter than a message board. Wow. So impressive. Such a great contribution.

Yet you are relying on the same underlying data. Weird how you justify it one way, but not the other. But yes, gaslight everyone for years who has been questioning underlying injury and diagnosing problems in both the Bulls and the White Sox, because it is much more than just this one dude. Tell Luol Deng he is just making it up. Please.

Sure, but for whatever reason, the JR owned teams have gotten extra attention for this specific problem. At the very least the perception that his franchises have had this more often than others is out there.

Bro looking like Cobra Kai over here.

Can you tell us what the rest of sports clearance vs injury rate is? It is just as "moronic" if you don't have the stats to pretend it isn't, when there has been questioning in sports around these problems.

I think he is secretly wishing that the the Reinsdorf teams weren't so often wrong for injury diagnosis's publicly for their own players, almost tragically in the case of Luol Deng.

Back on track here... No new information. SURPRISE!

Looking at the guys in our rotation, I will be shocked if a majority of them don't spend some time in AAA individually during the course of this season. There is so little experience, and not a ton of raw stuff in this group. The future is Schultz, Smith and hopefully Taylor if he can stay healthy through a season.