southsider2k5

Danks with 5ks 0er 1h in 5 IP.

I wasn't too entirely upset about things until LaRoche's statement. It seemed like a coincidence of bad assumptions until then. But once the statement was released, it is clear someone is flat out lying, and the organization is being burned down right now. Judging by Sale and LaRoche's statements, it really feels like Kenny is the guy in the wrong here, as both of them are telling the same story, independent of each other. That is a big red flag. At this point, a CLEAR statement of leadership needs to come from this organization, and now I don't think it can just be a private speech and statement released from Jerry. They either have to flat out say that LaRoche is lying, or they need to have Kenny leave. This has gotten out of control, and the organization is a public embarrassment right now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:59 PM) I believe he said this earlier today If that is the case, I take back what I said.

QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I took that Robin comment to be as much about the crybabies on the team as it was a vote of support for the LaRoches. It can be taken a couple of ways. Either way, he probably should be quiet publicly.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) Annnnnnnndddd my champion is out in the first round. Good job, everyone! Yep. 14/16 on the first day, champ gone before dinner on the second day.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) It starts with Adam LaRoche. If he has the perspective to realize how reasonable the request was, none of this happens. I can respect this to an extent. Though I will say if he is getting lied to and character assassinated in public, I get his being pretty f***ing upset.

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 2h2 hours ago Robin Ventura said 14yo Drake La Roche is "probably more mature than most of the guys in there." Glad to see Robin got the memo on the silence from the team.

After 14/16 on day one, my champ is going to lose on Day 2. Ah yes. Welcome to March.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) The only real item of substance from the statement from LaRoche is that he was asked to not bring Drake around at all. Someone is lying, and in a major way based on how this story has unfolded. This is officially a disaster. At this point one of two things needs to happen. Kenny needs to resign, or they need to flat out state that LaRoche is lying, whichever is true.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:34 PM) I'm wondering if Kenny has too much a presence in the locker room and players don't like that. Kenny does seem to be a control freak in a way The national narrative on this was the exact opposite. Kenny isn't in there enough, thus he has no idea what is going on. It is literally 180 degrees of where the all controlling Kenny image is on Soxtalk.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:26 PM) Come on man, you know that's way off. It's not about KW, it's about whether or not you should publicly denounce your own boss. It's about dissension within a team. Forget it, he's rolling.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) Isn't this exactly what happened until someone from the LaRoche side leaked the story to the Pitt writer and Rosenthal? It seemed like LaRoche didn't want the story out himself, but his story has sure been encouraged and told by a lot of people in his camp, not to mention his company's twitter account basically telling his story with what they retweeted. To me that is worst of all. If you want to talk, talk. If you don't, stay out of it, and don't use backdoors to do it. In the 21st century it isn't hard to connect the dots.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:13 PM) No way this train wreck is going to out recruit UNC. When I saw the crowd of teams that was at LaLumiere to recruit him, I was pretty surprised to hear that he was considered a favorite to Illinois. Unless he has a buddy he wants to play with, he has some big time offers coming in.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:50 AM) no, he is saying that. We know he made that s*** up, but that does mean he isnt presenting this as if its true and hoping it catches on. "Rumblings that Hanley Ramirez could be sent to the White Sox" is saying that FWIW, this is right. I felt the rumor was garbage, but it was White Sox related, so in case it was true, it should have been posted.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) If Adam LaRoche had a good year last year, then maybe the front office wouldn't have had to acquire all these new players that don't like having his son around so much. Funny how that works.

Yale> Baylor was one of my favorite picks. Baylor doesn't play disciplined enough to beat a Yale.

How many times could Don Cooper say Bulls*** in 5 minutes?

Baylor just had two players shoving each other going into a time out.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) I think that Reinsdorf blocked Toronto from talking to him. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong about this. That is the story I read. The Jays wanted to talk to him, and Jerry wouldn't let him. Kenny had a meltdown and threatened to quit.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:17 PM) Why is LaRoche's meat company doing all of this tweeting? Does LaRoche not have control over his employees, or does he honestly think that he's not responsible for their comments? I would imagine that is either Adam or Drake.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) Right, I think Obama would be more than happy to have Garland confirmed even if in an ideal world he could appoint someone more liberal. He's set this up as a win-win for him. Either he gets someone he wants confirmed to the SC, or Republicans obstruct any and all nominees and it helps Democrats in the fall, making it more likely that the replacement will be chosen by someone ideologically similar to him. The next President will probably have at least one more spot to fill, and it's almost guaranteed if they are a two-termer. The last President to not appoint anyone was Jimmy Carter. Before that it was God knows who.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) He has a perpetual contract. If JR doesn't want him to leave, unless he outright quits, he is going nowhere. JR won't let him talk to other teams. He basically is the White Sox president except for title. It obvious matters to Kenny, otherwise he doesn't threaten to quit over TOR. If he gets another chance he wants, he either leaves or quits.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) I know you're young and all and haven't experienced it near as much as the older guys, but you really need to get off the "I hope Chris Sale plays his whole career with the White Sox" thing. There is never going to be too many HOF type guys that stay with one team their whole career anymore. If you're counting on it with Sale you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. I was 6 Frank Thomas's rookie year and 21 when the Sox kicked him to the curb. I always had the same thought as you about being devastated by him not playing his whole career with the Sox, but when it happens you realize it's a business and it's really not as hard as you always thought it was going to be. Its funny how the world goes round. Robin Ventura leaving for the Mets was the player that devastated me. I was soooo pissed off at the team. As I got older and really got to learn how much of a business this is, I learned not to make too much of it. If Sale leaves, he is either going because he got a gigantic contract, or the Sox got a boatload for him. Either way, not much you can do about that.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) Well, the slim chance of Sale coming back to the Sox after his contract is up has officially bit the dust. I could give you about $300 million reasons.

QUOTE (daggins @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) I think KW is more likely to exit if this doesn't blow over and the team stinks. He already has the heat on him. We all know he wants to be a team President. If he finds that chance, I think he leaves.