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QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) Why do something to force him to retire, and then allow the team to try to talk him out of it? Just doesn't add up. As I said in the other thread, I don't recall seeing that management tried talking him out of it, it was his teammates.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) What exactly is this guy trying to say? That the Sox did something dirty to get him to retire? That is the way that most are taking it, and the most likely meaning.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) You literally highlited me talking about the polls. I posted the polls. College educated or not, those are their beliefs. Do with that what you will.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) Then don't pretend you don't know what the real logic is. I know what the "logic" is, and it isn't at all logical unless you are going to apply it evenly. Unlike most, to me it doesn't matter which party is doing it, and which party did it first.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:24 PM) Because you know it's not about that, it's about the fact that a justice as far right as possible is the one who died and if you replace him with anything other than the most pro-Republican justice imagineable it shifts the balance of power on the court. Even your own party officials have said as much. Yes. And we all know we should follow exactly what "our party" leaders tell us to think.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 11:26 AM) You're using exit polling from one state that happened a month ago. Let's throw in the actual demographics to actually address what I said. Trump does great with the "uneducated". He does well with everyone else as well though, He won with college graduates in Illinois, Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, Massachusetts, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, and Vermont. He's won with post graduates in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Massachusetts(if were playing this game, that's the smartest people in the smartest state in the country), Mississippi, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Tennessee. Exit polling isn't available everywhere, but where it is he's winning. He's winning across every demographic pretty much everywhere, which is why the attempts to stereotype his supporters as one thing come off as hilariously bitter. That is a slight of hand to completely discract from your first statement. His supporters are by the highest numbers holding terrible opinions that would literally push this country back 150 years. THAT is why he gets the reputation, and the fact that he is pandering to that lowest common denominator. You can redirect the focus to whatever talking point you like, but the facts are the facts.

Here is my problem with the "next President should nominate" logic. There are also Congressional elections coming up. Why isn't Congress following the same logic and leaving legislating up to the next Congress? Why isn't Mike Pence refusing to sign any bills in the State of Indiana until the next Governor is elected? If you REALLY believe the next President should be making the decisions that shape our country beyond election day, go the whole nine yards, and shut down ALL business that has repercussions beyond November. Don't be a hypocrite. It is also another stupid precedent to set.

A different perspective http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/adam-la...rd-and-tedious/

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) and in my defense, hahn waited until last week to move on a ajck, while saying they were some what done. so isn't the grand conspiracy per se but the sox knowingly keep things quite, and with the understanding that Avi can handle the dh job if necessary. not spending the money that may be saved. Actually the team never said that. Hahn said they were working on improving the team, and they could do something all of the way up until opening day.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) Sure. I'll start with the false narrative that Trumps supporters are all redneck white trash, or whatever idea is being pushed around here. The polls show differently (hes won across all demos), so I think people just get confused on how vocal his supporters are. One of Trumps slogans mentions the silent majority supporting him. Theres Probably something to that. I can think of at least 2 other prominent Soxtalk members who I'm 95% sure support Trump but won't say it. Easy to see why. So far I've been referred to at least indirectly as "retarded", "white trash" "racist" "uneducated" "coward" etc and thats just in the last few pages alone. I don't blame them for not wanting to be on the receiving end of that. I feel I've been a good sport about it, as I cant help but laugh it off. You know how you could laugh at people who said Obama was the anti-christ and would bring us 500 years of darkness? Now it's the same from the otherside. First Trump was Hitler, then he was the KKK, then Mussollini. Just last night CNN compared him to Fidel Castro. Anyways, onto why I support him. I read The Art of the Deal way back when. Terrific, terrific book. It's funny, his whole campaign strategy is laid out in there. You'd think his opponents and detractors would simply give it a read and maybe, just maybe they can take him down. It gives great insight to who he is as a person. Reading a book is hardly the reason I support him now. Just the opposite actually for a time (particularly in 2012). I saw him as a showman who'd do anything to grab his own headlines to the detriment of the party. Now he still is that, but I've learned to appreciate it since the people whose political careers he is ruining are not good people and certainly don't have our best interests in mind. Trump really came onto the scene for me politically about 2 years ago when he came out and exposed TPP for what it was: a trade deal negotiated in secrecy that benefits absolutely no one in the US other than the top line of big businesses while doing nothing but hurting the American workforce. It sort of exposed to me the idea that America has basically become a corporate oligarchy. The politicians in charge do not care about who they are meant the serve. Instead, they're all basically puppets, with every word out of their mouths carefully manufactured by whatever money is funding them. From TPP to Obamacare, nothing is getting passed unless the powers at be basically write it themselves. So shouldn't I find it ridiculous that the solution to this problem is to elect a man worth 6 billion dollars? Of course I do. But that's where we are right now. Better him than someone who is taking millions each from Comcast, Google, Soros, Koch Bros Goldman Sachs, CBS, etc. Having self interest is better than corporate interest. There are reasons every billionaire big-wig, including his past friends, and media source hate the man more than anything. They fear that, finally, a man they can't control is about to take over. I truly believe the single most important issue of our time is the amount of money in politics and Trump can be the first step towards solving that. I'm sure you'll say, well he can't do it alone, one election wont change anything, and that's very true. It is why it's very important he destroys the Republican party en route to the White House. He's doing a great job of it already. I'm also tired of the neocon foreign policy that has dominated Washington for 16+ years now and has caused more problems than solutions. Under Clinton, I'd imagine that would continue. People like to talk about what the president can and can't do. You may hear "how much damage could Trump really do?" I of course don't think he will do much damage, but this is one area I believe he can change basically overnight. Most other things he wants to change will admittedly be tough. Few ther smaller things: -Planned Parenthood: Not that my vote would ever take this into consideration, but my god, he has such a refreshing and shockingly simple "solution" to this controversy than whatever the hell other Republicans are trying to pull. -Calling for lower taxes on the middle and lower class while closing corporate loopholes. Cool with me. -Audit the fed: lol they'll never let him do this. -Basically supports a different version of Universal healthcare to replace Obamacare -Despite all the hilarious things he called Rosie O'Donnell, he has a lot better track record dealing with women's issues than anyone else on the Republican side. Your very first line is going in the wrong direction. While it isn't "ALL", the Trump camp has attracted BY FAR the largest numbers of these types of supporters. In a study of exit polls they found, -A third supported banning gays and lesbians from entering the country. -a third of Trump’s backers believe that Japanese internment during World War II was a good idea. -When asked voters if they thought whites were a superior race, only 69 percent disagreed. -70% wish the Confederate battle flag were still flying on their statehouse grounds -38 percent of them wish the South had won the Civil War -Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s voters disagreed with Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation -Voters were asked if they favored temporarily barring Muslims who are not citizens from entering the United States, something Mr. Trump advocates, and 74 percent said they did. He won 41 percent of that group. These numbers BLOW AWAY anyone else in the races. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/m...-share&_r=1

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:41 AM) Here are the games played for the starting 5 plus Taj Gibson 62 Games Rose 51 Games Dunleavy 63 Games BUtler 65 Games Noah 67 Games Gasol 78 Games So outside of Gasol, the starting 5 averaged about 20 games missed, not a game here and there, plus the guy who was supposed to be the new scoring threat in McDermott missing pretty much the entire year with a bad knee. Thibs had such great reserves as Nazr, Moore, and Snell to put in there with a few awesome starts from the Australian when Noah and Taj went down at the same time. Did Thibs have the same injury issues? Yes. Did he get forced out for a lesser coach who would do what the FO told him? Yes. Have the minutes changed at all since Hoiberg took over? No. Noah has missed 36 games, and counting. It will be nearly 50 by the time the season is done. Dunleavy has missed 50 games. Mirotic missed 15 games, after missing none the year before. Rose is about the only guy that has actually been healthier than normal. There have been times this year where they were running one or two starters out there, while missing 4 or 5 key guys. Thibs never had it that bad all at once. It isn't the whole story, but it has been a large part of the story.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 09:58 AM) I don't see how Cruz can be the choice at a contested convention. The party has to realize that Trump's supporters are much more likely to vote for Hillary or stay home if he isn't the nominee than Cruz' supporters if he isn't. The only real path the Republicans have to winning in November is for Trump to put 100% of his support behind Kasich but that just doesn't seem like anything Trump would consider. Trump was already talking about riots in the streets this morning if he were to not get the nomination.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) And this year you've had no Noah, Dunleavy out for months, Butler out for an extended period (and now with residual issues potentially), Gasol, Rose and Taj out here and there, Niko out a month. They're relying on guys like Moore and Holiday. How many times has Hoiberg had the expected starting 5 going into the season? A handful? Thibs got wins because he ground it out. Fine, i'm not arguing that. But was that team any better? No. Did he do some amazing coaching job? No. Did he deserve to be fired? Yes. The Bulls have had injuries before, but this year has been the worst for them.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) If I'm the Hawks, I do this: Toews Kane Panarin Anisimov Teuvo Kruger Hossa (but only if the retirement penalties are removed, I'm not sure anyone really knows what would happen in the case of expansion draft) Keith Hammer TvR Crawford. With the Seabrook contract, I'd risk someone taking it. Depending on how the cap floor rules would be applied to expansion teams, they would almost have to draft a few of the high dollar players to get past the floor level.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) It's interesting, I talked to Nick Capra 20 minutes after the news broke and reiterated over and over again, "It's not official yet." It's obvious that LaRoche is checking out so I would assume Capra was referring to the process of voiding the contract. There's precedent on both sides: Gil Meche retired just prior to ST and forfeited 12 million. He didn't get a buyout and said, "I am not taking money I didn't earn." Keith Foulke forfeited a 5 million dollar contract after reporting to camp and made comments similar to Meche's. No buyout. Dempster forfeited 10+ million but he retired in the fall and had no buyout. Cuddyer is the only one who had a buyout to my knowledge. He got 3.5 million of the 13(ish?) he was owed. The only position the team can take is that "it is not official" because until LaRoche files the paperwork for retirement, he is still an employee of the White Sox, no matter what he has to say, and no matter who he tells it to. I would imagine it is like tampering for Sox management and ownership.

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:03 AM) Rented and watched The Good Dinosaur. It was "meh" to me, plus there were a few disturbing scenes that I was surprised to see. Not really funny or entertaining. Just another kids film that will be forgotten in a year. 2 stars out of 5. I wasn't impressed with it either. Decent, but clearly below many of the historic Pixar movies.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) Final offer was accepted and signed.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 09:11 AM) Rick Hahn already said they didn't expect it. So have all the beat guys. This isn't some grand conspiracy. I'm not really sure what you are talking about. It makes zero sense to think the team knew it had a bunch more money to spend, AND another position to fill, and did neither. You would have to assume that Rick Hahn is either stupid or negligent for that to be true.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) Agreed with all this. I was just looking around to see if there was any reasonable mid-high salary pitchers available to bolster the back of the rotation and all I could come up with was Shields, Cashner and Garza. Ick! That said, holding onto the money and seeing where the team stands come June/July would go a long way towards making the team better when more players are available. Thing is, will Sox fans be patient enough now that the Sox have a few extra bucks to play with or will this turn into another " Sox are f***ing cheap" thread? Fans need to realise that just because a few bucks has opened up doesn't mean it must be spent right away.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 08:37 AM) Considering the White Sox front office seemed surprised by this decision and were among the people trying to get him to reconsider, I doubt they offered him a buyout to go away. I think the opposite. They have always been a pretty solid organization to their players. The one I remember was the Sox keeping the contract offer on the table to Maggs when he tore up his knee before that whole mess happened.

QUOTE (Coach @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:41 AM) LaRoche retiring is great news but I had an over/under on the number of K's. I guess that's gone now. Take the under.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 04:37 PM) Got tickets in the 4th row today behind the scorers table after the season ticket holders turned in seats they didn't want. Apparently Mike Davis ex of IU post Bobby Knight fame is the Texas Southern Coach. The game was great, Valpo put it away late, and now hosts Florida State Thursday night.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 14, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) I might go over and see Valpo playing their opening NIT game. Should be fun. Got tickets in the 4th row today behind the scorers table after the season ticket holders turned in seats they didn't want.

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 35m35 minutes ago Ethier homers vs Quintana, Dodgers lead #WhiteSox 2-0 in Glendale, second inning.