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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) I think he became redundant with the emergence of some of the other lower line guys, plus Kruger is coming back some day... Garbutt is a guy. He's nothing special, and easily replaceable out of the Hawks farm system.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) I know it is just some dude, but i cant resist posting it here: https://twitter.com/chisox2727/status/690197432303484928 His screen name is Sign an OF already ‏

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) None this year, but Sekac will be a FA while Garbutt was still signed for next season. link Works for me. That saves a million bucks for Panarin.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:32 AM) Garbutt traded for Jiri Sekac. I didnt mind Garbutt actually, his speed was surprising. Any cap savings?

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) I've been thinking this for the last week or so. I think Roc Nation is trying to get the Mets involved, but they dont have an offer that beats the Sox and the Sox know it. That's why the Nationals have been brought into the whole thing, to make the Mets feel like they need to invest in Cespedes to stay atop the division. The Nationals have Werth at $21 million/year in LF, Revere and Taylor in CF, and Harper in RF, where is Cespedes going to play? I think a good chunk of the rumors are an attempt to get other teams interested, and/or bluff the White Sox into bidding against themselves.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:41 AM) Well this is precisely my point when I talk about the mega impact the coming together of Harry Caray and his extraordinary salesmanship and the exposure that came along with superstation WGN. It was a match made in heaven. That guy absolutely sold the Wrigley Field experience like no other. Remember, the Cubs were not the national fixation they are today before Harry arrived there. In fact, in his first season, '82, that game when Lee Elia went off the rails, there were only 3,000 fans in the stands that day. When was the last time you could say there were only 3,000 fans at Wrigley? Now granted, it took Caray a couple of years to take hold on the north side. Cubs fans had to get used to his style after decades of the Jack Brickhouse style. But in '84 he really started to take off, and the Cubs franchise has not looked back ever since. They were a terrible team for most of Harry's time there, with the exception of '84 & '89, but starting in '84, that place was packed to the rafters almost every day and has been ever since. And it's all because of Caray's years of selling Wrigley Field to the gazillions of people across the nation who got WGN in their homes. As for the Sox in the 70s, they absolutely got a bounce from his presence. In fact, that's why the Sox brought him to Chicago in the first place, hoping he would help with what was a disastrous attendance problem back in those days. The Sox drew under 500,000 in 1970, and so Harry's contract starting in 1971 included an attendance clause. The Sox improved their attendance in each of the years he was broadcasting and he received the maximum bonus as per the agreement, to the point that attendance improved so much after a few years that they simply couldn't afford to pay him that bonus any longer. And that was with no where near the exposure he got when he was on WGN. So that was his specialty, selling the experience for whichever team he was employed for. I just wish he would have continued to have done so for the Sox on WGN, like he did for the one year when he had the chance to do so. Unfortunately the owners' egos got in the way of that happening. I don't buy that for a second. First off that same magic didn't happen here, second that magic didn't disappear when he left.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) I agree. I've had this feeling for awhile. All of these teams keep getting mentioned, and then disappearing. The White Sox 3 year maximum keeps coming up. If the White Sox weren't the leader, there wouldn't be the need to keep mentioning their offer max, which leads me to think all of the rest of the stuff is either inconsequential or it is BS.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) 3B was a lot of Mike Olt, too, though. Sox games started at 3B according to BBreference. Saladino 53 Gillaspie 50 Beckham 39 Olt 20

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) From a box office/entertainment perspective, I don't think we've seen anything like the Warriors. These guys are so f***ing fun to watch. Only team that comes close to me are the SSOL Suns. Showtime?

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 12:31 AM) How about a little credit to Stan for finding TVR, Panarin and Gustafsson out of the blue? And I'll be the first to admit that I hated Anisimov being the main piece in the Saad deal, but he's proven me wrong. That line is unreal. A little? No, a ton. The guy finds gold no matter where he digs. Even if all of his deals don't work out, he puts damned good teams on the ice annually.

I really have the feeling the White Sox are the only serious bidders out there.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 10:12 PM) If Cooper went public, on radio, TV, social media, etc.. and said.. "I LOVE Fords.. I think Chevy's SUCK!" and people were upset about that.. I would say totally . that would be out of line.. However in one of these FB exchanges, Cooper said, roughly.. "if you are a fan that is unhappy and complaining and negative, we don't want you as a fan anyway" Now this was addressed to anyone who complained about the Sox.. whether they be a season ticket holder, a past season ticket holder, or a possible potential season ticket holder… I'm not sitting around frustrated and fuming about this. trust me.. but it sure piques my curiosity about how things are done behind closed doors at 35th and Shields In a private facebook message. In a private conversation initiated by a fan. From something we don't even really know that actually happened. People are offended. And while saying you aren't offended, you sure keep presenting the case for being offended. To me this is the equal of people getting fooled by a photoshopped meme picture on facebook.

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 10:31 PM) Theres a difference between a #1 overall pick; and a #7 overall pick (MIN took 2 PGs ahead of Curry), and Draymond (Who Thibs wanted) was selected in the 20's after GarPax fave marquis teague. You can make an argument that it was lucky that no one took curry ahead of the Warriors, but it was not lucky they drafted draymond so late. That was good drafting. Just like it was great drafting by the bulls to get jimmy. I credit the bulls for late drafting. that is all though. they don't do anything else So the Spurs and Cavs were lucky.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) The FO lucked into Rose. No one can dispute that. So take away his awards to be honest. As far as the other awards, you've named multiple ones for the same players. And again, none of those players were as good if not better before or after thibs. If the Bulls "lucked into" Rose, GS lucked into Curry and Green, while the Spurs had the greatest luck of all for Duncan.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) I absolutely, positively, 100% believe that to be the case. SO why haven't they fallen off since then, and why didn't the Sox see that bounce in the 70's?

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 05:49 PM) Then I would assume then that if you go to US Cellular and pay top dollar to see MLB, and the Sox decide to put their AAA team on the field, you would be totally cool with that because the Sox don't owe you anything.. no business owes you anything You're kidding, right..? I happen to be an independent business person and I damn well owe the people who pay for my service something. Timely delivery, professional quality product and service… Good Lord... You are owed what you pay for. Nothing more, nothing less. Past that? Get over yourself. They sure don't owe the general public getting the knobs slobbered on outside of the ballpark. Seriously stop and think about this. Let's assume what you say is true. Some essentially cyberstalks Don Cooper. We aren't talking about his performance at a ball game. We aren't talking about his actions on a radio show, in a television interview, or even at a White Sox sanctioned event, or even anything general public related. We are talking about private messages on facebook. Someone tracked him down, friended him and THEN sent him a private message looking for something. They didn't like the answer they got, even though the initiation of the contact was 100% of them. If you want to bring yourself into this, what level of personal access do you allow your clients? Do they get to follow you into your personal life and home and decide if what you say hurts their feelings, then trying to make that grudge into a public lynching in an attempt to sabotage your client base, even though it had nothing to do with your business or professional performance... and you'd be OK with that? This has absolutely NOTHING do with Don Cooper's "Timely delivery, professional quality product and service". He does that just fine. Don Cooper's facebook page isn't stopping Chris Sale from being a perpetual Cy Young candidate. This is a personal vendetta, at best, assuming this is actually true. If it isn't it is a bulls*** attempt at character assassination. Yes, people need to get over themselves if they think this is really something worth getting upset about. I can even get something like a DUI, beating his wife, etc... but some supposed facebook private messages? Find some priorities in life.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) So basically if it doesn't interest you it's a bunch of crap and we should all shut it down.. Who appointed you all high and mighty in terms of what people should or should be interested in? What would you rather discuss? Lets go over the potential starting lineup for the 2016 opener.. for the millionth time… or lets discuss any other you deem appropriate.. God forbid someone discuss something that doesn't interest you.. I find at least it a topic of note, that a high ranking member of the Sox organization got busted (assuming this is 100% true) for expressing his rather disparaging opinion of Sox fans.. I'm curious about everything Sox and the Sox organization… is this the way the organization as a whole feels about their fans? Is Cooper basically the hothead that ends up not being able to contain the corporate restraint? There's a lot more to this story than maybe you're aware off. He really went off on some people, some season ticket holders… Bottom line.. I get it.. there's a certain faction that must desperately twist any negative attitude about the Sox as rants from a bunch of whiny babies and lunatics.. It works out great because it helps support their superior view of themselves as the more knowledgeable, calm, restrained, professional fan... You are assuming this is all true. Secondly, who are you to tell us that this is something we should be interested in. This works both ways. His opinion that this is stupid, petty, and pointless is just as important as yours that this some how is worth being upset about.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) Good question. The answer is they didn't have Harry Caray and his superior salesmanship selling the ballpark experience day after day after day. As I've mentioned before, if Caray stayed with the Sox and Milo Hamilton had gone on to be the Cubs announcer, the Cubs attendance would have resembled that of the Braves. It was pretty much that before Caray moved over to the Cubs. The Harry Caray impact cannot be understated, which is why I wish he would have remained with the Sox. So Harry Carry is the reason the Cubs are as famous as they are? Yikes.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 04:39 PM) See Harry Caray/superstation WGN exposure impact. If that was it, why don't the Braves have the same following?

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) Micker Adolfo. If he stays healthy and begins to tap into his raw power...he will be on everyone's top 100 prospect lists. He has the potential to be at the top of the list, or completely bust. He is a fun one to think about.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) The real life to athlete life comparison is weak. It's not even remotely the same planet and you know it If you want to be butt hurt about Facebook messenger comments that may or may not be real, whatever. Live your truth, rage on, fight the good fight People think they are way more important than they really are. Let me be the first to say it, no business owes you anything. The White Sox owe you nothing.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Balta hates you. Do you know a guy name Doug he works at the Lighthouse Mall? He sold me some loafers back in 97. Good guy. f*** Doug. Asshole.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) Interesting correction on its face for the CW pundits. Strong Dollar, Cheap Oil, China stumbling in bid to be #1 economy and...massive stock sell off. US Economy continues to be dynamic as hell. I really think this is just a big buying opportunity. The effect of China's economy on the US is a magnitude less than how we effect China's economy. They need us to survive. Because of their protectionism, we just don't have that deep of roots into them. Europe falling apart would be a way bigger problem than China.

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) Questions for all you GarPax supporters: 1) How many coaches does Pax get to hire? 2) How many rebuilds do you give these guys? 3) An NBA FO has three responsibilities A) Drafting B) Free Agency C) Creativity in making your team better; has Gar Pax satisfied 2 of 3? 4) According to GarPax, this roster was championship ready with Thibs standing in the way, so now, since Thibs is gone, are the Bulls winning a title anytime soon? I wouldn't exactly call myself a supporter, but I am not willing to go to the rabbit hole of trying to grossly oversimplify things. I don't feel like there is an automatic number that disqualifies someone from their job. If the front office was fired tomorrow, I wouldn't be upset about it, but I am not to the point where it HAS to be done either. To spin it back around, If Tim Duncan at his absolute peak sustained a series of devastating injuries, would the Spurs look like geniuses? The Golden St team is only 4 years removed from being a 23 win lottery team. From 1994-1995 to 2011-2012 they made the playoffs once. That is one time in almost 2 full decades. The Bulls have missed the playoffs ONCE in the last decade. Is that really that impressive that after 20 years, they finally did something right?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) It was one of the offers they floated towards him, similar to LeBron's deal. It has never been stated that it was the only deal offered. The story at the time of the negotiations was that the Bulls basically put a set of offers together which basically said in order for us to offer you this type of contract, this is the players/salary we'd have to move to do it. You tell us what contact and players you want on the team.