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MLB Network PR ‏@MLBNetworkPR 55m55 minutes ago Todd Steverson on Avisail Garcia:"His plate recognition needs to improve..if that improves, we've got a heck of a player." #MLBNow @whitesox

670 The Score ‏@670TheScore 1m1 minute ago #Bears receiver Alshon Jeffery is injured again, tweaking his groin on Wednesday. Update from @CEmma670: http://cbsloc.al/1RRJxal

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) I got a Scott Downs road jersey for $25 at the season ticketholder party. It goes well with my $20 Gregory Infante, he of the career ERA 0.00 Infantes, black jersey. Everyone has a Konerko or a Sale. I like to be different, and it's a lot cheaper. I have a black Bajenaru 57.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 10:44 AM) I've learned that when a lender schedules an appraisal, it tends to appraise for the exact value they are looking for. Funny how that works. Yeah, that hasn't changed at all since the bubble burst.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 09:40 AM) The market thought the US economy was doing amazingly well in 2007, though. How much do we rely on that collective wisdom? I do agree that this long, protracted recovery hasn't been great for everyone, and the economy was sliding downward at the end of Clinton's presidency (it both shot up and then slid down mainly because of tech, not anything caused by Clinton really). I used to believe more it the effect of the Presidency, but with each passing recession the Fed takes more and more of the leading role in the recovery effort. It becomes more and more artificial.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 09:24 AM) Yup, that was the Tech Wreck. Relatively shallow, until 9/11 gave it a big shove. The recovery during W's administration was of course an empty bubble drive entirely by falsely boosted home equity, as we now all know. But then again, many of the policies that caused the housing bubble came from Clinton's time, with furtherance added by Bush (though for both of them, they were only part of the puzzle, with Congress just as guilty). I think the recovery we've been in for the past 3-4 years is the first fundamental one we've seen since the mid-to-late 90s. But even this one hasn't driven wages up as well ones prior to 2000. I honestly believe with no inflation, no wage growth, and low labor force participation rate, this isn't a real recovery either. It is pretty much been launched by government spending, and maintained by the fed bank, and consumer material deflation giving more money for spending. It really bothers me that after 7 years, the market thinks the US economy still isn't in good enough shape to survive without zero interest rates.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:09 AM) Yeah our economy is really in the toilet again, just like the end of Clinton's presidency. Thank God we had eight years of strong leadership and growth under the Republicans, otherwise we'd probably be at 50% unemployment. Your company is using health care premiums as a way to cut your pay. The ones loudly protesting higher wages are Republicans. The ones trying to abolish social security or keep raising the retirement age are Republicans. We were actually at the start of a recession at the end of the Clinton Presidency. It officially started 6 weeks after GWB took office.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 01:43 AM) I'd be all for trading 2-3 of our lefties and bringing Mark back. Or like I said make Danks a lefty reliever. Teams with four lefty starters DO NOT win pennants. How many teams throughout MLB history have had 4 lefty starters?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:57 AM) I really want to get a Sale game used jersey, but those are probably a fortune. The bigger the name, the bigger the price, and the shorter amount of time that stuff lasts.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:58 AM) Dan Hayes was on CSN last night from the GM meetings, and he said Eric Johnson is on the block. If they don't believe it him, this is probably the time to deal him, before he fails again.

There is tons of stuff, but bring your wallet. It is not for the faint of heart.

Buehrle 1/10

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 07:55 PM) Maybe because on I'm on my phone, but all I see are valuations there. Where are the debt numbers? It is the Debt/Value(%)

Haven't seen this mentioned, but the Bulls are starting their own D-League team to play in the Sears Center in Hoffman Estates.

White Sox Talk ‏@CSNWhiteSox 1h1 hour ago Scott Boras: Carlos Rodon proved he should have been top pick in 2014 (@CSNHayes): http://bit.ly/1Qw5rS2

MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors 12m12 minutes ago Per @TNT_Mariners, the #Mariners are nearing a deal with catcher Chris Iannetta. Read more: http://bit.ly/1MoJvTI

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) That was before interest expense and they have the biggest debt load in baseball. I count five teams who have a higher debt/valuation ratio. http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/

CSN reporter just said that Hoyer and Epstein are probably going to sit down around Thanksgiving and devise a plan for the off season, and that they were doing a lot of information gathering right now. Sound familiar?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) On the contrary - that's exactly the message he's conveying. When he talks about a template to "praise" or "emulate" that involves a record below .500 for a "minimum of five years", then that's him realigning our expectations, big time. Gladly (if you can actually use that word this way), to your point, we are not starting that rebuild right now. Many aspects of a rebuild started in 2013, stalled only by last offseason's activity. But in resuming those rebuild efforts now, by the time this team is competitive again, given the current state of the team, "half of a decade" and maybe then some will have been "punted". Think 2013 to whichever the next year is that we'll be competitive after this rebuild is complete. Unless you think rebuild efforts involving obtaining young, cost-controlled players will somehow make us competitive in the next couple of years. I am not surprised at all that is what you read in there. You totally ignored the parts about those other teams finishing under 500 for 5 straight years, and trying to move the time line forward as much as possible. For perspectives sake, that would mean finishing under .500 each of the next two years.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 6m6 minutes ago Free-agent SS Alexei Ramirez is at the GM meetings, presumably meeting with clubs.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 12:57 PM) With our Cuban ties it's no wonder. I'd imagine they'd be televised. With as many refugees as are on our team, I figured the opposite. Doesn't look good for these guys to go back to Cuba and flaunt their wealth.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) Looks like wet snow showers and high winds tonight into tomorrow. Here comes Winter. Sounds like you guys could see 20 footers on the lake up there.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 01:35 PM) There was no questioning of your fandom in my post. I legitimately just thought you were a Stars fan, so I was joking about the loss to the Marlies last night. If you are not, then OK, I'll save my jokes for one of the other 78 people in the state of Texas that care about hockey. Well, at least the ones that didn't come from somewhere up north.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) so you guys think these are phony quotes or is it that Hahn's words were not intended to convey any message. Re-reading the article I think he is obviously trying to put things into perspective. All of these other teams that people want to emulate took between 5 and 10 years of being awful to get to where they are now. The Sox are trying to speed that time line up. He is trying to realign expectations a bit, but still send the message that they aren't punting for a half of a decade. At no point does he say they are starting a new rebuild, only continuing what they started a few years back.

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 8m8 minutes ago Renteria said he needed to step away last year for himself. White Sox called him last year and that dialog led to his hiring this year.