southsider2k5

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) Alejandro De Aza has outWARed Aoki every year And outLOLd him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 09:37 AM) You keep asserting this, can you give something other than anecdotal names to say it? Because of the steroid era, there is pretty much no reliable data here.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) Bit annoying this, traded an intriguing prospect for him and then he crushes AAA and holds his own in the majors and we lose him Dude has got a REALLY long swing. It is obvious why he can crush MiLB pitching, but not MLB pitching.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:40 PM) Interesting. For some reason I thought Cuban players were exempt, so I was gonna ask for more clarification, but Google is my friend. This kid's age is the difference. I am actually starting to second guess part of that though. I'm not sure how it works with a major league contract though. It states his signing bonus is hit by these pools. Does that mean if he signs a $100 million deal with no bonus, that he isn't subject to those caps? Now I am confused.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:14 PM) Cubs and Rangers can't before July 1st 2015. BOS, NYY, and TB can't July 2, 2015 or later. They can until that point with a 100% fine of whatever they spend. Reading a little closer, the signing period actually ends June 15, so BOS, NYY, or TB would need to sign him by then, or they are out completely.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:26 PM) I think you are correct with who bids the highest. I just read an article that speculates the contract could go 9 years and top 100M. I say go for it. A $100 million contract for Moncada would cost any team about $200 million after they paid the fines related to it.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:09 PM) Cubs and Rangers can't sign him for more than 250K and the Red Sox, Yankees and Rays can't sign him more than 300K. Hahn needs to be all over this kid, and Abreu needs to do some recruiting. Cubs and Rangers can't before July 1st 2015. BOS, NYY, and TB can't July 2, 2015 or later. They can until that point with a 100% fine of whatever they spend.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 07:48 PM) The only problem is that given the success of Abreu/Cespedes/Puig and the new draft rules, teams are far more willing to spend big bucks on these Cuban players, so he won't be cheap. It is also worth mentioning that any signings above 15% of a teams international pool means a 100% fine on those dollars. A $10 million bonus for the Yankees would cost them $20 million in reality.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) @philgrogers: White Sox have to be considered a big factor w/19-yr-old Cuban SS Yoan Moncado, who played w/Jose Abreu. He's a big talent. If he signs in this period, I would imagine a team that went over its cap already (Yankees and Red Sox, I'm looking at your) would bid big, as they incur no further penalty to do so.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 04:44 PM) Bruce and Viciedo aren't even close to the same player. Bruce is only 27 years old. I'd bet it's a down year way before I'd think he suddenly forgot how to hit entering his prime. If he was like 32 or 33, you could argue he's getting old and may be set for a decline. But at 27, I'd put money on just a down year. Also, I think you guys are overrating Montas a bit here. He's probably our 4th best pitching prospect at this point. I'd put Rodon, Danish and Spencer Adams all above him (Not now, but ceiling wise). I'd gladly give up that and a utility infielder for a guy who could be an all-star again very soon. The only guy in the minors with a higher ceiling than Montas in our system is Rodon. He isn't as finished of a product as the other guys, but you can't teach the arm he has.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 03:34 PM) They have had a lot of guys not perform. Keppinger, Downs, Belisario, and Paulino was a total waste of about $22 million. Martinez alone would be somewhere around triple that amount.

QUOTE (MAX @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) I think I'd prefer billy butler over the course of the entire contract. I would agree with this, especially when you consider the contract saving.s

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 11:10 AM) Damn you answered already . Can you pls make this a poll with a simple I want Victor or I do not want Victor choice? I swore I did it right but screwed it up. Any mod/god please fix . A bit late, but there you go.

Good addition, but a bad idea if we are talking about 4 years, probably even at three.

QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 10:55 AM) Controversial opinion - I'd rather have Rasmus. I'd rather have the money that we'd pay him for something else.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 09:50 AM) Thoughts on trading for Chris Davis? I bring it up just because his name hasn't been brought up yet. Free agent after this season so the price shouldn't be tooo astronomical. Probably one of our top guys and a few mid range guys. We just let Adam Dunn walk away.

The Sox aren't going to be paying big for marginal upgrades. They walked away from this exact scenario last year after McCann went to NYY.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) It was supposed to be in reply to SS2K. He didn't like that the thread was made. My point was that I've been told in the past to make new threads rather than burying news in a different thread. It is in reference to a s*** ass pitcher, nothing else. Way to read it into it.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 01:47 PM) Cubs exercised the option on P Jacob Turner Royals decline option on DH Billy Butler as expected. Blue Jays decline options on Morrow, McGowan and Smoak. Morrow could be an interesting option. They brought him and and declined his option? What?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 01:52 PM) I'm surprised the media doesn't know who Hahn is targeting. You know he has a plan Why? Rick Hahn isn't stupid enough to broadcast his intentions to the whole world.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 01:56 PM) He's getting a major league contract I'm sure. There are plenty of washed up pitchers who will get a major league contract.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 11:28 AM) I still don't understand why this is so impossible. IF the players they're signing all make since I could certainly see it. Now the chances on them being able to "beat" every other team on these guys that make sense might be rather slim, but hypothetically speaking if their offers do get em I don't see them capping their spendings. Because the White Sox aren't going to have a 110-115 million dollar payroll next year.

Ugh. Do we really need a thread for this? Dude is done.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) This plan means the White Sox add $45M - $50M to the payroll. How realistic is that? 0 chance

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA 1m1 minute ago Butler's camp feels pretty strong that Jimmy won't get less in free agency than the $10-$11 million per the Bulls are offering. Basketball Forever ‏@Bballforeverfb 3m3 minutes ago Jimmy Butler has rejected a 4 year, $48 million contract extension from the Bulls. He will become a restricted free agent this summer Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 16m16 minutes ago Jimmy Butler rejects Chicago's final offer on extension, tells Yahoo: "I want to bet on myself." http://yhoo.it/1092wYQ