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QUOTE (iamshack @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:56 PM) They'd have to play pretty s***ty to be 10 under .500 by the deadline. That would be a collapse on a 2013 scale. We are one over .500, two days before June. We'd have to play under .400 ball for that to happen.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 29, 2014 -> 07:20 AM) Since he became closer, Belisario has pitched 5 innings, allowing 10 hits, 3 BBs and 5 Ks (2.60 WHIP/10.80 ERA). He is not getting the job done as the closer. The first three outings he was terrible. The last two he has done his job.

QUOTE (VAfan @ May 29, 2014 -> 12:27 AM) Another blown save tonight by Bellisario. After a long stretch of appearances where he gave up no runs. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id...onald-belisario Since he's been the closer, he's had only one scoreless appearance in 5 tries. Webb, on the other hand, has been scored on in only 5 of 19 appearances all year, and only 3 times since his first two appearances of the season. Yes, his WHIP is higher than others, but he's done a very good job of not being scored on. You could make a case for Petricka, who's been scored on only 4 times all season in 22 appearances, with a better WHIP and ERA than Webb. Both seem better than Putnam, who's been scored on 4 times in 15 appearances. But, please, don't keep trotting Bellisario out there. He doesn't pitch nearly as well as closer as he did as a set-up guy. This post was over right there for me. If you saw the game, you saw his defense give up four outs. You'd also know that the run scored, was an out that was left on the bases.

Hawkgasm for that play.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 28, 2014 -> 05:32 PM) No, it's about how you'll be viewed by the white majority society, which can only be defined by white society. Which is how success and failure is measured in this society, and what passes for fair in repaying any historical slights.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 28, 2014 -> 05:19 PM) When I read those sentences from him, this is what comes to mind for me: Black college student arrested for buying designer belt Young black woman swarmed by police after buying designer handbag Or Coates' article titled "The Good, Racist People" that was spawned by Academy Award-winning actor Forest Whitaker being accused of shoplifting and frisked in a deli. It doesn't matter how respectable these people made themselves, they were still viewed as criminals or likely criminals. That, I believe, is what he's getting at when he says that racism can't be defeated by blacks becoming more respectable. You don't see the inherent contradiction in defining respect as what "white society" sees as "respectable"? At that point, you set yourself up for a subservient role when you define yourself by someone else's standards.

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 54m From White Sox notes: Conor Gillaspie (.355) is hitting .425 in the seventh inning or later, .410 in May and .393 with runners on base. White Sox starter Hector Noesi is 0-14 over last 39 appearances. The streak is 2nd-longest active in baseball behind A’s Fernando Abad (15). Noesi is 0-3 with a 5.14 ERA over six appearances (five starts) with White Sox. He has worked 6 innings in each of his last 3 starts.

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 3m Ventura said Sox undecided on whether Abreu needs rehab at-bats but return by Monday looks good.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ May 28, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) Interesting, thanks - Just a quick google search shows that Illinois consider severance payment for PAST services. She is taking this over a 10 week span and not lump sum, is this what you did as well? I always took payments as a lump sum. i would contact the Il unemployment offices and ask. Also be sure to note who told you the answer, because they aren't the brightest people work with. I had many disasters.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 28, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) Yes, and what was the very next sentence he wrote? So no, his argument isn't that black people are powerless, it's that black people becoming more respectable in the eyes of white society won't fix it because at its heart American racism is about disrespect. So black people have agency, but they cannot change the nature of the racism of society. That is not the same as saying black people are powerless, can't stand on their own two feet and can't do anything on their own. I think he's riffing off of what black nationalist writers, like Malcolm X, have said in the past when he says that. There is an inherent contradiction there. On one hand he is saying that blacks are disrespected by whites in the American society, but then respect seems to be defined by what "white society" does apparently respect, which is power and money, or some other sort of retribution.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 28, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) Somebody should be accountable when a team wastes money on a pitcher who is absolutely horrible. [Yawn]

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 03:21 PM) I just wonder what the final bill would have been if Chicago got the 2016 games. People were upset. I think we dodged a bullet. Thinking about things like major updates to the train lines, and fixing things like the circle interchange that would have had to be done by 2016, it would have been worth it. Sure it would have been hell leading up to it, but those things being done in a timely manner would have been so awesome.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 03:15 PM) He was a slam dunk if there ever was one for the White Sox considering their lack of prospects and aging 1B/DH guys. Normally teams don't hand out $68 million contracts, the biggest in team history, to guys they don't feel are sure things. And I was talking about Paddy's impact on the signing, which IMO was limited at best. He joined the team in December 2011. The Sox knew about Abreu well before then. And even KW pointed out the bidding was all JR. You are telling me that if Texas though that Abreu was going to be THIS good, they wouldn't have bid $100 million, or more, on him, instead of sending Kinsler to Detroit for an older more expensive superstar? Colorado wouldn't have thrown an extra $10 million at him him instead of wondering if Morneau could rechannel his inner 2009? Houston wouldn't have thrown an extra $25 million at him to kick their rebuild into overdrive? The Red Sox wouldn't have punched in a few more bucks to get him, after bidding seriously on him?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 02:46 PM) Isn't $68 million the biggest contract the White Sox have ever handed out? I would think that means he's considered a slam dunk. I think every team offering him 8 figures for 5 or 6 years thought he would be really successful. And of course he was scouted by the White Sox. He was scouted by every team There was a concern about his bat speed, and they had the perfect storm where teams who really drive prices up like the Yankees and Dodgers and Cubs and Red Sox pretty much had 1B and DH filled up. From the article inside his showcase where KW stated he went to look at him hoping he didn't like him, : "If it hadn't been for those concerns, which have since proved largely unfounded, he would probably have been in the Tanaka nine-figure range," said an executive of one club that liked Abreu but determined it could not afford to bid on him. "From the video I saw, he reminded me a lot of Miggy Cabrera. Which now makes me wonder: If Cabrera was in Cuba putting up stupid numbers at his current age and in his current, somewhat slowed-down physical condition, what would scouts have thought of him? Interesting thought experiment." Here is another interesting thought experiment: Now that Abreu already seems a bargain a month into his six-year deal, what kind of contract might the next decorated Cuban escapee command? Rick Hahn, the White Sox' general manager, puts the bull market for Cuban hitters into some perspective. "We signed Alexei Ramirez in '08 for 4.25 [million dollars]," Hahn pointed out. "We signed Dayan Viciedo a year later for 10. In 2012, [Jorge] Soler goes to the Cubs for 30, and then Puig goes for 42 right away. Now Abreu. The escalation was so quick in this market for this type of player. Contracts went up 15-fold almost since '08. There is something about Jose having not played in the States that ultimately made people shy away, and you completely get that. In retrospect, thus far, it looks like it's going to be a sound deal. But you still had that unknown." Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/.../#ixzz332cAOlu2 So like I said, there were obviously questions, or else his contract would have been much bigger.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) Skipping right over the weekend??? Have to worry about home playoff games for the Bulls, Knicks, and Lakers.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) Many teams had their top people at his showcase. He had been scouted before and had been well known for quite some time. He played in the WBC. If you are saying the White Sox would not have been in on Abreu without Marco Paddy, while you may be complimenting Paddy, you are dissing the rest of the baseball operation beyond comprehension. Ignoring everything you are saying I said, and repeating what I actually said was that someone from the White Sox scouted Jose Abreu LONG before they put Kenny Williams on a plane to the DR to see him. I also said that if it was such a slam dunk when it came to Abreu, he would have signed a MUCH larger contract than $68 million. What you made up doesn't actually prove or disprove either of those two statements. Honestly, most of that post means nothing.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) On our 7th grade trip to Springfield, our school was told never to return. Spoiled suburban brats. I had a trip like to that to page the state legislature. We got kicked out of the state capital for protesting and kicked out of the page program for a year or two.

How about a potential deal starting with Baltimore and Dylan Bundy? He is now throwing in the low 90's in extended spring training.

Adam Dunn

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) That wasn't Paddy. KW was saying he recommeded a 4 year $40 million offer and JR was the one who upped it. Abreu has made the next Cuban sensation a lot of money. Someone looked at Abreu LONG before KW ever went there. No organization sends their VP out to look at a guy first.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) According to the article you are now racist for saying that a person could perhaps improve their own lot in life. That is just racist at the core, there is nothing wrong with people not sending their child to school, its just a racist belief that somehow if you do better youll get more respect. Again, it isn't just one race being referred to there.

I keep going back to the Yankees as the perfect fit. I just don't think Cashman would be willing to pay what Hahn is going to ask for Alexei.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) It's not just building new schools--it's putting the people and programs with the schools to change the communities. First of all, every elementary school in disadvantaged areas should have an attached child care/pre-school/tutoring for kids age 3-12 that is open 6am-8pm M-F year round. Attached, but run separately from the school so as not to be an additional burden to the principal/teachers. Cost is free up to whatever parents are deemed to be able to pay. This frees parents up to be able to hold down jobs without having to worry about child care, which is a very big problem in the schools. The second thing this accomplishes is that it gets kids in the habit of being at school every day from an early age. The third thing it accomplishes is that it gets the basics of learning instilled in the kids before they reach kindergarten. Add adult learning opportunities for parents. They can go learn valuable skills in one room while their kids are down the hall learning in another. Secondly, the schools need to be very aggressive in dealing with absences. This requires non-teacher human resources that most schools can't afford. If a kid is absent from school and the parent does not call in the absence, the school tries to call the parent. If the parent can't be reached or is reached but is unaware of the absence, the school goes looking for the kid. An entire department dedicated entirely to making sure that kids are in school. There is a ton more but these are two of the biggest things. The culture change has to happen over generations. Start with the smallest children, and 20+ years from now you will start seeing real progress. One of the problems is that we have no patience and we keep trying to just throw money at quick fixes that don't work. At the formative years stage, it is the parents who aren't sending their kids to school. They don't see a value in it. That is the culture.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:08 PM) Probably. Rogers was a pawn in the Dave Wilder scam. Wilder had his ear and would hype these basically fake propects which in turn Phil would buy and sell to the rest of the BA team. I read a long piece on the Wilder scandal, and how much he used and abused Phil Rogers. But back to Abreu. He was no secret. Giving Paddy credit for the Sox signing him, is kind of like giving the Cleveland GM credit for finding Lebron. That only goes so far. The guy signed a $68 million contract (which was the top bid by all accounts). That is no where near what the guy is worth, meaning that there was a decent level of uncertainty regarding Abreu, otherwise there would have been a 1 in front of that contract.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:06 PM) But again, a lot of what's going on in the poorest areas are direct results of public policy that created ghettos and prevented the creation of wealth in black communities. What can society do to make kids want to go to school? How about a portion of society deciding being intelligent isn't a bad thing? Do you know how many times I have heard the term "Acting White" used as a term of derision from one black kid to another, relating directly to having too good of grades or scores?