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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) Cowley - Here's what I've just been told - "If [KW] pulls this off, the Sox will be considerably better by tonight.'' Um, duh. Its not like they are going to pull of a deal to make them worse...

I think the sentiment that Kenny is trying to step in front of Washington to force their hand on Dunn makes the most sense, thought I do seem to remember the Sox putting in some groundwork to get Jackson when he was still with TB, right?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 10:05 PM) I thought it was a settled question for a long time now that the government isn't isn't in the business of engineering, never was, and never will be, and has no ability whatsoever to do things like fix the leaking well. Or to control disasters of unprecedented size (especially considering how the laws are written). Why is this being talked about? So why do people still pitch a fit about Katrina and FEMA? Why don't the same standards apply?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:50 PM) They are handling an emergency. They do handle superfund sites. So, they are capable of handling most emergencies, just not one that's pretty much unprecedented because another agency completely dropped the ball and the private sector cut corners. That is the whole reason the damned EPA is supposed to exist! They are supposed to be the ones who prevent environmental disasters, and when they fail as usual, they are supposed to do something to fix the problem. They have been worse than worthless in the gulf. They have been to this event, what FEMA was to Hurricane Katrina.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:36 PM) superfund sites aren't emergency response situations. EPA is not FEMA. They aren't environmental emergencies? You should tell that to people living in danger of one of them.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) EPA is an emergency agency? For the environment it is. What do you think a superfund sight is? Me dribbling some gas out of my tank? All though seemingly they would be more responsive to that than a 100 days of oil spewing into the Gulf of Mexico.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 01:23 PM) The EPA (or really anyone for that matter, DRILL BABY DRILL!) doesn't have the capabilities to deal with spills on such a large scale. That is comforting. We have these emergency agencies that can't handle emergencies.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) Well...they are only 5 games out of the division, they have Cabrera's career year probably going on right now, they clearly have an owner who doesn't want to throw in the towel, and they have some young kids who are having ridiculous seasons. There's plenty of reason to keep going. They are missing so much of their core, not to mention they have soooo many free agents coming up, they need to see if they can find guys who can save next year, instead of having to put all of your eggs into the free agent basket.

Can the Nationals risk another Soriano situation where they only get draft picks for a top guy?

Pauley want an ass-whippin'?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 10:15 AM) Well, sinker ballers would possibly lose their effectiveness pitching in a huge ballpark. Infields aren't different sized.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 10:29 AM) Huh, scale matters, imagine that. My point exactly. You would think that they would be more likely to step in when things are bigger and worse, and affecting more people. I'm sure the millions of people on the gulf coast are happy they are paying to clean up Kalamazoo while they suffer.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 08:15 AM) They're plummeting so fast right now that they need several moves to really hang with the 2 guys at the top, given all the injuries they've had. The White Sox have a significantly better offense than the Tigers on the season right now. The Tigers need to punt on 2010 and see what they can get themselves for next year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:39 AM) He'd be a much better fit for Target Field than for the Cell. Which pitcher wouldn't?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 10:05 AM) If the Sox went into this season with a $95 million payroll instead of the $99 mill (from Kalapse's spreadsheet), I dont think many would complain at all. Or if they redelegate $5 mill in next years payroll, we probably wouldnt even notice. People would have noticed when this team stayed at the bottom of the division because we didn't have money to sign JJ Putz, and instead had depended on Linebrink as the primary RH set up man.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 01:47 AM) Excellent analogy. It's like some people really think those of us who want to see more effort put into the farm think we do so only because we want to see Baseball America fawn all over us. Like a few have said, I don't give a s*** about having a sexy AA or AAA team or having Baseball America rate us #1. Look no further then what the Phillies have been able to do. That's the franchise I want to emulate. I'd love to as well as they have a major metropolitian market all to themselves, plus have a payroll about $40 million a year higher than ours. That extra money makes it much easier to have it all.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 01:06 AM) Yeah, I don't get why this seems to be so hard to explain. The farm system doesn't guarantee you success but damn does it make things easier. Downplaying it is like saying "I don't think it's important to have maximum resources." "I don't care what you managed to do in Vegas with $5000, I can have just as much fun there with $100 so it really makes no difference whether I have $100 or $5000 when I go" I don't think anyone is saying that isn't true. What I have been saying all along is that people would throw a fit if the Sox made the sacrifices needed to move money away from the everyday team and into the farm. We have seen the threads for months about guys like Kotsay, Teahen, Linebrink and the like. Imagine if the players on the team were worse than them while we didn't spend the money that used to be there?

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 08:22 AM) Oil spill of about 20,000 barrels to reach Lake Michigan by the weekend. http://www.freep.com/article/20100727/NEWS...er-Battle-Creek Huh, the EPA can step into a spill, imagine that. http://www.wwmt.com/articles/epa-1379591-river-efforts.html

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 11:15 PM) And coming off his 07 season, having Crede was just wasteful. Fields had an OPS+ of 10 in 2008 along with a .917 fielding percentage in his time up here. THAT is why they brought back Joe Crede.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 11:08 PM) Did we really need Crede in 08? Or was that just unnecessary money spent on a player in which we had a replacement for? That money wasted on Crede gives you your draft money right there. There is waste on this Sox team right now, denying that that money couldnt and shouldnt be used in other areas is wrong and a terrible philosophy. Josh Fields was the next guy in line in 2008 at 3B.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 11:11 PM) To me it would really be an upset if the Sox get Dunn. How often have they been tied to be close to getting someone and then it doesn't happen? It seems almost all the deals they make appear out of the blue. If you look at it in that vein, most deals fall through, so it is a pretty common thing.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 10:56 PM) I havent seen anybody really claim anything but Ozzie and KW field a decent team every year, and the outlier being 2007. I never discoutned that, but no one expanded on it. And I guess youre just not understanding or agreeing with me on what is reality, because I think it was very possible to have Pods-Rios-Quentin with Thome at DH, saving millions, staying productive. Ptatc just posted that he understands my opinion and he respectfully disagrees with it, and I respect that. Meanwhile, youre the one trying to say my philosophy is not reality and cannot be done, without really stating why besides its hard. I never said it would be easy, and its not just one offseason in which you make these changes. Obviously, it would be hard to cut alot of salary from the payroll in one fell swoop, but with smarter decisions regarding contracts, the team can save 3-5 million a year and reinvest it. Hell, in 2006 that was Uribe's salary, or Crede's. Replacing a underperforming player making 5 mill with a comparable player for league minimum is a smart move. This is what I mean about glittering generalities. If Uribe is gone in 2006, we don't win in 2008. Also the reality is, if everyone could find $500,000 players who would give you what your $5,000,000 players would, everyone would do it! It sounds great, but in reality, it just isn't as easy as it sounds. Sure if you keep changing the rules about how to do it, it gets easier.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) No, Ive shown you a very easy way in how to keep the production going, if not improving, at the MLB level while saving money. Im getting frustrated by the fact that people dont read posts anymore, and instead already know what they are going to write instead of reading and taking in the information someone is sharing. Judging by the way you have responded I take it that you are doing that exact thing. Actually you haven't proven anything. All you have shown is that what you are talking about can't be applied in reality, and while still fielding a competitive team. And step off of the all mighty high ground, I haven't exactly seen you change an iota in your position either. Who isn't taking in anyone else's information in lieu of their own opinion?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 03:13 PM) None of us Jordan supporters can really criticize TOO much considering he used to do s*** like this too (and worse) and the media more or less protected him. Its why Sam Smith is the best basketball writer that Chicago has ever seen. He was the only one who wasn't scared of MJ.