Everything posted by southsider2k5
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White Sox Acquire Manny Ramirez
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 01:23 PM) Unless they can push themselves back up into a race with the Giants and Padres, I don't see how the guys they've picked up will do that. Being 5 games out isn't going to create a walkup crowd; being 1 game out would. Ted Lilly isn't going to sell tickets. They're down about 2000/game compared to last year, but last year they were in first place the whole year. How about not creating no-shows by waving the white flag?
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Don Cooper and Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 01:17 PM) Whatever the change we made was on Thornton, we picked him up at the end of ST, KW said "Here stop asking for him", and by day 1 of the season he was the Matt we've come to know and love. IIRC the change in Matt was as simple as making him get the ball up over his wrist instead of on the side that way he had more control over it. That way he didn't have all of the sideways play in his release point.
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White Sox Acquire Manny Ramirez
QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 12:00 PM) They have a 4% shot of making the playoffs. I really didn't see the point of them buying at the deadline. Selling a few more tickets?
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Danks and Arbitration
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 01:02 PM) If D1 was interested in a long-term deal at a reasonable value for the team, I have a ton of confidence that it'd be done already. I think he's pitching his arbitration years and wants to hit FA. If nothing goes wrong with his arm, he could easily be looking at a deal well over $100 million. As healthy as he has been, and the numbers he has put up as a lefty, that would be the starting point for a deal.
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Don Cooper and Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 10:44 AM) This. I wouldn't be all that upset if Coop didn't make dramatic changes to Jackson overnight, or even this season. I would STILL have more faith in Jackson than Hudson in a big game in the playoffs this year. This whole thing reminds me so much of Brandon McCarthy. I think Edwin Jackson is going to be a monster next year. It depends on what the flaw they are changing is. I know DickAllen referenced Silva at some point. The change Rothschild made in him was as simple as moving to the other side of the rubber to maximize hiding the rotation of his pitch a fraction of a second longer. It could be something of hand positioning on the ball, or an arm slot change, or the finish on a pitch. The arm slot change would be probably the hardest to adjust to, but it depends on how quickly Jackson's musclememory would pick it up. If it is simple, it could pay immediate dividends.
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2010-2011 NHL thread
QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 12:30 PM) Yeah, but we have some good young players that should step up and provide solid minutes. We were return basically 80% of ice time to the team, which is huge, and add a goalie whose abilities are roughly the same as Niemi's. I think we will be fine, but we won't be able to survive injuries all that well. Oh yeah, in the NHL, signing guys to offer sheets is pretty rare, so the Sharks were clearly trying to hurt the Hawks. They knew the Hawks were going to keep Hammer, so they figured, they offer a front-loaded deal, they can kill the Hawks ability to sign Niemi. Can't say I blame them as the Sharks had no shot at a Cup with the Hawks depth and talent. Front loaded deals don't matter in the NHL. The average his is spread out through the life on the contract. This is why the Hossa contract was controversial.
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Waiver Wire Thread
He'll be put on waivers, no doubt. It would be interesting to see if someone did claim him with an eye on 2011. I really doubt that anyone would claim him.
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Danks and Arbitration
QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 10:36 AM) Am I missing something? I'm seeing that the club may not offer less than 80%/70% but I can't figure out if there's a benchmark for what the player asks for. There isn't. They could ask for a gazillion dollars if they wanted to.
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2010-2011 NHL thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 10:18 AM) I take it that there is now zero circumstance under which he could return to the Hawks? Yep.
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2010-2011 NHL thread
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 10:13 AM) Does Nieme stand a chance at getting the $2+ million that the arb ruled elsewhere? He's a free agent at this point. Anything can happen now, but I have to imagine it wouldn't be easy because teams already have their #1 guys.
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2010-2011 NHL thread
Well at least I know now that my goalie can kick your goalies ass... He might not be able to stop much anymore, but he has a nasty right cross.
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White Sox Acquire Manny Ramirez
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 09:23 AM) Are they just quoting Rosenthal on that? I'd bet on it. They don't do their own research for the most part they are just an RSS feed.
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Don Cooper and Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 09:56 AM) People seem to overlook that Coop was supposedly salivating over the chance to get Jackson. Think about it: if you're Kenny, and Coop comes to you and tells you that he feels he knows Hudson's ceiling and Hudson won't be very helpful down the stretch, but he's confident that he can turn Jackson into a stud, what would you do? In Cooper I trust. In Kenny I trust I think it was Matt Thornton that upon acquiring him Kenny went down to Don Cooper and told him something like "there you go, now you got him."
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2010-2011 NHL thread
QUOTE (lord chas @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 11:28 PM) wow i still cant believe how bad this salary cap situation turned out to be. would it be possible to sign niemi then at least trade him for something? The bonuses alone are costing us almost 10% of our cap space this year. It is a tough price to pay, but it also means we won the Cup.
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Gamethread: White Sox (58-45) vs A's (52-51) 1:05PM WGN/WSCR
QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 10:37 PM) I can't celebrate a win in a game thread and a good job by my favorite Sox of all time? I was happy and celebrating people. Bobby is a member of the Sox. I thought others would be happy with me. I guess I was wrong. Why does everybody think there are ulterior motives to posts? If you are not happy for/with me, then sorry. It was not a troll thread. And I did have to go to church. As people in game threads may realize, I go Sunday afternoons. I did not realized I was disliked that much. Oh well. That's my true explanation for my post(s) after today's win and Bobby excellence. That is a good idea on Teahen. Hope we put him on waivers and Kotsay as well. It's pretty bad when a still-young player like Teahen won't be claimed. He was a mistake addition by KW. It has nothing to do with being liked or disliked. It is completely about you making a personal shot at everyone who has disagreed with you, despite being told to walk away from it multiple times.
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Waiver Wire Thread
QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 11:12 PM) Yes. Is that something he had written into his contract, or is that something that comes with 10-5 rights?
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White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 10:22 PM) Deferred comp is typically established via a trust. And it's possible that trust has already been funded, leaving only the regular salary left to be paid. If that is the case, it would seem that the Dodgers would be on the hook for that money almost for sure.
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White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) Right...which is why I wish someone in the media would get to the bottom of it! Rosenthal referred to some $6.7 million figure, but I'll bet he just took 2/3 of the $20M Ramirez makes this year, without really looking into the contract. But if the deferred money gets tied to actual time periods, such as a regular payment schedule, then it is conceivable that he is owed about $6-7 million for the remainder of the season. For that number, I could see someone claiming him possibly. For the other number, no chance. Thinking back to the negotiations I would guess that the money has been set aside as well, because it sure sounded like they were only talking about money from this season.
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White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 10:09 PM) 2 years/$45M (2009-10) re-signed by LA Dodgers as free agent 3/4/09 09:$25M, 10:$20M (voidable) Ramirez must decide whether to opt out of final year of deal before fifth day after 2009 World Series or Nov. 10, whichever is later $30M deferred without interest: for 2009, Ramirez receives $10M in 2009 and $15M in 3 installments of $5M paid each June 30, 2010 to 2012 if Ramirez does not opt out, he receives $5M in 2010 and $15M in 3 installments of $3,333,333 each on June 30, 2011 and 2012, and $8,333,333 on June 30, 2013 full no-trade clause Ramirez to donate $1M to club charity Ramirez exercised 2010 player option 11/6/09 It's pretty important who is responsible for the deferred money for the waiver claiming process. Its hard to tell from that information what exactly the deferral process entails there. From the looks of it, I would guess the money has been set aside, because it specifically said without interest, but I wouldn't bet on it for sure.
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White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 10:00 PM) So if Manny has money deferred from his 09' salary at 0% interest, that liability would be assumed by the claiming team? I have a really difficult time believing that... Basically then, no one is going to be able to claim ManRam and the Dodgers will be able to make a deal with anyone. If what you say is true, then he is still going to be owed some $25 million from the 2 year, $45 million contract he signed in 09'. It would depend on how the deferred money was specifically assigned. If they just said that he gets x million from 2010 in 2015, then yes, the team that owns his contract would assume that liability. If it said that in 2010 his team was to defer x million dollars to be paid in 2015, the team that made that deferral would be responsible for that payment, unless a new agreement was made to supercede the original contract.
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August White Sox Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 07:46 PM) I believe benchwarmerjim said that Morneau had multiple concussions in HS hockey, as well as a concussion in the past 3 years in the majors. So he is getting close to Lindross Loopy territory. I saw the replay of the hit he took to the head on the slide, it really didnt look bad enough to knock him out for a month or longer When he comes back, I bet money he is wearing one of those space cadet helmets like David Wright wore If he is still having symptoms, there isn't really any chance he is back before September, at the soonest.
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August White Sox Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 08:54 PM) Indeed, and I believe there are labor laws that mean you can't play more than 21 days in a row? I remember this coming up a couple of years ago, and I think the only exception to it is if you're at the end of the season and have absolutely no room for days off, and even then the players have to agree to it. I remember the same sort of thing.
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Teahen cleared for baseball activity...
QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 08:00 PM) Coop met with Ozzie. Showed him a schedule he put together for the rest of the year, and said to make it work he wanted someone from the minors to handle the 2nd game this Tuesday. Ozzie said OK. End of story. There was no debate. The story has always been that Ozzie leaves those sort of decisions up to Cooper.
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White Sox Acquire Edwin Jackson
QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 09:15 PM) I reallly want to know how waiver claims work in regards to deferred money. Kal, Qwerty, did you guys catch any part of the discussion Balta and I were having regarding Manny and his contract? You pick up the contract as is. If there are supposed to be payments made, the claiming team assumes them, unless it was something where the money was supposed to be put aside in the past into an interest bearing account or something of that ilk.
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8/1 Games
QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 08:41 PM) Petricka to Kanny tomorrow. I was just going to post this. The kid put it on his facebook page. I like it.