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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 02:00 PM) If Threets is somehow able to stay on the DL until rosters expand in September (I know that's a long time and unlikely), he and Sale would both be eligible for the playoff roster correct? That would be ideal.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 12:21 PM) Well, if we'd kept him on the roster and dropped Kotsay, we'd still have been in better shape. Then we would have been playing someone like Josh Kroeger all year. Believe it or not, I think that makes us worse.

QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 02:42 PM) He'll ask the Giants for Posey or Lincecum He can ask for them, but they aren't getting through waivers either.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Put in a waiver claim and offer them Jack Squat. Screw Washington! Play the Cuban Tank! He's not getting to us, it doesn't matter.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 11:32 AM) It was. His agent said that the reason they agreed to sign for what they did, and as early as they did, is because the White Sox were committed to moving Chris up quickly, and that player and agent agreed that was the best overall course of action for his future. Get that arbitration clock moving!

QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 10:36 PM) Ryan Theriot is 5'11", 175 lbs. Was a 3rd round pick of the Cubs. He was 24 years old when he was in high A ball. Where he batted .273 with a .709 OPS Jon Gilmore is 6'3". 195 lbs. Drafted in the 1st round by the Braves. Is 21 years old in high A ball. And is batting .337 with a .794 OPS. In what bizarre parallel universe are these two players remotely similar? Any time this subject comes up, it is always interesting to look at the numbers for Magglio at a similar age. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/O/m...o-ordonez.shtml

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) Can he bat left-handed with power? No, but he is a grinder.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 10:59 AM) I don't know that there is a clause as much as this was an oral promise made to him...that he would be brought into the fold very quickly. I just hope this is more a function of Sale being that talented, as opposed to our options dwindling that much... I'm guessing the promise of a call up was worth knocking off some of his signing bonus.

Well that is nice as it gives us time to make a move, and to not risk losing him;

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:41 AM) A few numbers out there to go behind the talk of a page or two ago about how the team lost value almost automatically when Ricketts bought it. Heard on ESPN 1000 today that he paid 840m for the club and now it's worth 740m, so a 100m loss in value which is about 11.9%. Also heard he has to pay 30m a year on his loans for the team not to mention the money they have to dump into the shrine every year to keep it maintained... it obviously has a chance to turn around, but it's going to be a little bit to navigate through this period and a safe assumption to make that their cash flow is severely restricted This makes me happy.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 05:51 PM) lol, i work in credit card fraud. People try and claim fraud on this stuff all the time, NONE OF IT is free and you will get charged one way or another unless you cancel. And if they charge you, surprise, it isnt fraud. hello, FBI? Yes we know a Kyle...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:57 AM) The deed is done, you have to live with your impatience now. Mwuahahahhaahahahaha Forget Kotsay, Soxtalk needs to DFA BigSqwert.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:14 AM) White Sox made a statement and said they don't agree with Ozzie. All of the Guillen family is getting up in arms about it. Which is funny because one of those kids should have never been paid to pick up a bat or scout, yet he did.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:50 AM) Where are the rules for this? I haven't done a game thread since the Reagen administration. For a left winger, you don't seem to know much about unwritten rules...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 12:17 AM) hurt his wrist, went on the 60 day DL. Normal year for Nick I was going to say, he is who we though he is. There were a lot of people on here upset we didn't spend the $5 million plus on him. We would have been screwed.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:40 AM) How does Kyyle feel about this game thread ? ;> The baseball gods had better not be pissed, thats for sure!

To be fair, he isn't "starting" the speculation. This has been going on for a while now.

If it is really something as simple as pitch tipping, this could be huge for Jackson. I imagine they will do the samething they did with Jose Contreras, and have him do that funky glove wiggle to cover up when he changes finger grip in his mitt. Here's to hoping it works.

QUOTE (bulokis @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 12:40 AM) Its a good thing we won because it will be a lot more harder to accept these changes if we did not win the Cup. It would have been four million dollars better if we didn't win the cup.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) CCs and Santana's WAR was in the 7s leading up to their FA. Danks is 3.6 now, 2.9 last year, and 5.2 two years ago. I will say there is no way on earth he gets the ridiculous contract numbers thrown around here. Beckett money (4/68) is more realistic and even then I think Beckett is pretty much a better pitcher. So was Lackey. All of them were much older than Danks when they hit the open market. As was said earlier, Danks will be 27.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) Well unless you pay Danksy $20 million a year for 8 years or something, he's not going to want too long a deal either. He's going to want another shot at signing a long-term contract once he hits 32 I would think. I think you either sign him to an extension this offseason...something that pays him above what he would get in arb, and slightly less than you project in his first 2 FA years, throw an option on there for a 5th, and call it a day. If he refuses to work with you on that, you deal him. 4/$48 extension with a club option of $18 million for 2015. If someone is willing to offer that security up front with that sort of huge money, he is signing it.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) Something tells me that D1 gets moved before he hits FA. That is my guess. Hopefully I am wrong.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 01:35 PM) I really doubt that would make a big difference downwards, since so many sales are going to have been locked in by season ticket purchases, especially coming off of a couple of playoff years. From the sounds of the fairweatheredness of the fans out there, it could make a big difference.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2010 -> 01:20 PM) As I said, "Well over". I don't think he'll touch Captain Cheeseburger dollars...but he could always snap a sub-3 ERA season out in the next 2 years and put himself at that level. He is looking at a seven or eight year deal if he hits the open market. The guy doesn't miss starts and is left handed. In this day and age, that is worth about 10 million a season all by itself. Throw in the sub 4 eras, the way less than a hit per inning, and not many walks either, and you are in the 17/18 million a year range.