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QUOTE (north side chi sox fan @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 02:18 PM) ohh I thought you get a choice .. my bad They used to, until a player got paid money to pick a certian team to go in with... i want to say Wade Boggs and Tampa Bay, but I am not positive.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) I thought that money was coming from the overpriced tolls that we pay on the highway every day? Or the 3 dollars of tax on cigarettes people pay? Or the 10 percent sales tax i pay when i purchase anything in chicago? Gasoline taxes are specifically for roads and the ilk.

Thome won't have a choice at what hat he wears in the HOF.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008...dsons_moun.html

Funny math http://www.poorandstupid.com/2008_06_15_ch...462049832146448

Richar

QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 12:18 PM) that would be 15 days Or at least 13, because he didn't play Sunday, and we were off on Monday.

QUOTE (Getupstretch39 @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 11:37 AM) I refuse to argue any further about Damaso Marte in a game thread. Argue all you want, but come with better material than Blown Saves for a set up man, that's all I am asking!

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/slezak/1008...carol17.article

QUOTE (Getupstretch39 @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 11:28 AM) Yes, to go along with 19 blown saves. Blown saves are the worst possible stat to judge a set up man on. He could come in with the bases loaded and no one out, get a double play ground ball letting a run score, and that is a blown save.

http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/n...b08fae4500d3f97

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 11:03 AM) I think that was intended to be a dig on Obama and not you FWIW I should have been more specific... sorry!

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/o...0,7766785.story

This is really been undercovered in my opinion. There is a straight line from these people to a guy who could be President of the United States of America, not to mention lots of money being involved here. This has hardly been talked about at all in the media. Even if you ignore the obvious slant of the article, the meat of it is pretty important (then again their definition of ordinary property owners, would be the Dem's definition of "rich" but that is another story.) We have money essentially going from CEO's directly to Senators (the dismissal of 5 digits worth of fees, or even $75,000 in Dodd's case!) who then in term have pushed for the government to pick up their losses. Not only that, but this same CEO who made the phone call ended up on the VP search committee team before his past got seriously questioned. This is influence peddling on a Chicago type scale going on right under our nose. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/...rs-loan-scandal

Nothing on any of the bigger targets like Danks, Long, or Upchurch?

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 09:48 AM) I don't get this comment? Tiger isn't throwing his club after a bad shot and blaming the grass or anything...he's doing it cause he IS blaming himself? Many times he even says..."Dammit Tiger!" He isn't inhuman and it's because of his ultra comeptitive nature that he is as good as he is. I personally don't go throwing my club around the golf course, because I don't expect to be that good....I don't play enough or practice enough to be good....but if there is something I'm good at and there is something I do right 9 out of 10 times....You're dam right I'm gonna be pissed that 1 time I f*** it up. That's how it is with him. If he hits a shot how he wants 999 out of 1000 times...than the 1 time he needs it he f***s it up...he is gonna get pissed...I don't blame him....I mean short of him teearing up a green or something...I can give a s*** if he throws his club down. In fact, I find it remarkable how he can get past a bad shot so easily. Hell I see bigger temper tantrums over bad ABs by Sox players here

Let's see if Manny still likes to hangout behind the monster after this one... he-he.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 08:28 AM) While I agree about what it takes to defend people, I have to disagree about this whole idea that Obama or McCain need to go out and say something in these cases. Fact is, their supporters will go out and do/say all sorts of nasty things. They cannot be constantly apologizing and standing up for their opponent every time one of the loons from their own party makes some assinine statement. For practical purposes, they only can and only should to that when someone from their inner circle steps over the line. I just cannot see attaching the fortunes of Obama or McCain to their supporters. If I did, I'd despise them both. I just think the reality is that they are NOT the same as their supporters, and they can't really control them anyway. That hasn't worked both ways AT ALL this election. If that is the standard, that is one thing. If you are pushing for it to be the standard, you should live up to that standard.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 08:10 AM) it's not his supporters pushing this story though. It's a media organization. Should a candidate say "hey, dont find out if this guy is a lair"? I dont want to seem like I am trying to make this an issue. Just pointing to another similar story to what was said earlier. (but I DO think he should release his record) Anybody can defend their wife, it takes a real man to defend their opponent. For all of the talk about being better than McCain, he sure doesn't seem to want to lead when he gets the chance. All he has to say is to John McCain served his country honorably, and leave his service record alone, just like they should have done with John Kerry. Its over at that point. Samething with going after McCain's wife. One statement, and its over. If he tells everyone it is meaningless, no one cares anymore. But he won't because it benefits him. This is the same kind of proxy bulldog attacks that we have seen for years from the Clinton's and Bush's that supposedly wasn't going to happen under Obama, but guess what... it is, dispite the propaganda otherwise.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 08:00 AM) and this... McCain's Secret, Questionable Record I would be curious to see those records. Kerry did it. Yup. I am still waiting for Barack Obama and John Kerry to step up and live up to the standards that they have been talking about on matters like this... I am waiting to see him tell his followers to back off, like he keeps telling everyone to do.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 16, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Its not? You really think the government deserves almost a dollar worth of taxes per gallon? That depends, do you think we deserve to have roads, bridges, and other infrastructure?

QUOTE (The Bones @ Jun 16, 2008 -> 08:21 PM) Oh...I totally understand that no Sox are going to be starting...unless it's a pitcher. But I just wanted to do my part and keep Quentin atop the write-in votes list. I really believe a strong write in presence will force him into the final vote.

Happy Birthday fellas

Fields, Cook, and Eldred are all the same all or nothing plodders that we have a line up full of already. Give me someone who will swing for a basehit with two strikes, or punch the outside pitch the other way, just to change the look of the line up a bit.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 16, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) As I think i've made clear here before, I am not exactly 100% sold on Obama, and I certainly am not a fan of some of his tax policy ideas. But, to say that his desire to move towards more progressive taxation is socialistic, or that he has somehow declared class warfare, is really over the top. let's have some perspective here. Even if he could implement every tax/government spending change he has suggested (which is not possible anyway), the country would still be less "socialistic" than its been at other times in recent history. I do not think it is ridiculous at all. We have the most progressive tax system in the world. The top 1% earners make 19% of the income of this country, and pay 37% of total taxes. The top 10% pays 68% of all taxes. The bottom 50% of tax payers earn 13% of all income and pay only 3% of all taxes. The bottom two quintiles actually have a NEGATIVE tax rate. Yet everytime I turn on the TV, I hear about the rich people raping America. There is so much misinformation out there on this, its astounding. Pushing so hard for more taxes and punishment for the rich is getting silly anymore. Our corporate tax rates are among the highest in the free world. http://www.american.com/archive/2007/novem...-pays-the-taxes