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QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 02:32 PM) In this case, the inning would have ended if it wasn't for that error, so whatever happens after the would-be 3rd out doesn't go against a pitcher's ERA. I guess technically if a pitcher gets 2 guys out, and an error is made on the 3rd batter, he could allow infinity runs and none would be earned. Where the scoring gets interesting is now if the Sox had brought in a reliever after the fact, any runs that would have been charged to the new pitcher would be earned for him, yet unearned in the team ERA.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...00.html?cnn=yes

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 02:03 PM) If you could re-sign Crede right now to a 3-4 year deal (if he fires Bora$$, which has been rumored), I would deal Fields in a Ichiro package. I'd offer Swisher + Fields + Broadway and / or Poreda for Ichiro, and that'd be it, I'd want to hang onto Floyd and Danks. But of course, the M's have Beltre at 3rd, but they could always use Fields at 1B for a season or 2. The Yankees have Damon, so I don't really see them after a leadoff hitter. They need Sabathia more than they need Ichiro. The Red Sox on the other hand, I could certainly see that happening, especially considering they have Buckholz in AAA. I might be in the minority, but if we could sign Crede, I would deal Fields in a heartbeat for a big named player. I don't hink the Sox need another all or nothing guy in the line up.

QUOTE (north side chi sox fan @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 01:59 PM) Thank god I am not a Cubs fans beacause Day Games = No Productivity How do Cubs fans keep their jobs? Don't you remember Lee Elia?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 01:51 PM) Clearly, this means that no scientist should ever be trusted when making an estimate of oil production curves. Or closer, it means that this is an inexact science, and all of these numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. They just don't know with a real degree of certianty what the reality is when it comes to the supply of energy miles under the earth.

Do not quit on this team. Period.

6-2. These guys are not quitting this year.

Gavin has got to pitch over this...

I guess with the US being the Mexican welfare system, it makes this turnabout and fairplay? http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/...-1m19tjgas.html

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 01:07 PM) Is it even possible to sue an elected gov't official like that? Not saying he shouldn't do it, he totally should. I don't think they are immune from defimation, slander, and libel...

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 01:15 PM) He picked that I was an Aussie as well. I told him to get his ass back down under. Kinky.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 11:01 PM) the sad thing is that nothing happens to him for smearing the marines. Well, maybe not... http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=67434

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 12:06 PM) He should be investigated and recuse himself from the committee that will vote on the Fannie Mae give-a-way in minutes. WHAT A JOKE! But he's a donkey so the same rules do not apply. Everyone talks about Enron. What about the Fannie Mae accounting debacle. Raines, Johnson, Gorelick. How much did they pocket from the "accounting errors"? Over $100 million dollars. I'm sure the investigations will happen when Barry brings change to Washington; and then monkeys will fly from you know where. Not to mention the influence peddling that has gone on with this. That is the most disturbing part of things.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) Then we are still cutting those losses some because of the drilling. We're still increasing supply. People have been shouting "OMG! NO OIL IN A DECADE!" since the early 1900's. The EIA predicts a peak in about 30 years, not 4. http://www.reason.com/news/show/36645.html http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petrole...upply/index.htm when I was in early elementary school my science textbook said that we would be out of oil by the year 2000.

Wow this is going to be a complete make over of the organization.

I don't know who the Gagestopo is who keeps trying to lock the greatest thread in Soxtalk history, but it will never die!!!!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) Hello nsbb.com lurker chuckywang and others. Welcome. Maybe you can explain how a 5-6 plus era sp like dempster with a career 1.51 whip, who has 4 plus eras in the pen the last 2 seasons has shaved his era in half, and has posted a whip nearly .50 lower than his career mark. Did he all of a sudden figure it out? Did the sudden increase in velocity come from offseason yoga? Did his gay glove dance confuse hitters? Is his peak really coming at age 31 after being ineffective as a starter early in his career? I'd like to know your reasoning and speculation. You don't like ours. Maybe there is a legit reason why hitters have lost about 70 points of baa against him all of a sudden.... Or he quit hanging out with Esteban Loiaza...

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:25 AM) So you're using the "if they do it we should do it too" argument? Why not be the innovators and leaders in alternative fuels? Why keeping clasping to an outdated and limited resource? Depends on how far you want to push that arguement. The entire transportation structure of the United States depends on this energy. You just can't quit fossil fuels cold turkey and expect the country to be OK, especially for things that we don't know will necesarily work in mass production and on a national scale. NONE of this is proven. We are already seeing the results of the shortsightedness in our energy policies of the last 20-30 years, by the supply problems we are having now. There is no guarentee that in another 10 years, even with significant investments in everything under the sun, that any of this will actually work. Then where is the country at?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:21 AM) It needs to go down about $40 per barrel. My non-expert opinion is that we at least test the old 120ish lows. After that, par is possible.

Twin bits of good news on the crude oil front.... China annoucned they are raising the gas prices in their country and Saudi Arabia announced they are increasing production 200k barrells a day. Crude is down over $4 as we speak, and still falling.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 10:46 AM) It's Tigers or bust IMO for the division. A couple more mediocre weeks for the Tribe, and they are going to start selling. With Hafner basically dead, Vmart out for 6-8, and Westbrook done for the year, they just don't have the bullets. With the Twins, I just don't see them having the rotation to go on any sort of long winning streak. Sox really gave the Tigers some second life, but as you say, the Sox just have to keep doing what they are doing. As long as the Sox keep pitching, I don't think the Tigers have the arms to get back into this. How much are the Reteria and Cabrera trades hurting them right now? All of that great pitching depth they had is gone, and it could have been helping them right now.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) There si a VERY big difference between Axelrod / Carville and Karl Rove. Rove is a man who works behind the scenes to push his own agenda and policy and is the front man for all the negative attacks that the GOP pushes out... the PRIMARY reason I no longer consider myself a republican. There is zero difference between those three. They all do the same things. They are just portrayed very differently. I have seen both Carville and Axelrod get up and tell bold faced lies about anything and everything, and nothing ever gets said. Carville was the leader of some of the most vicious attacks during BOTH Clinton runs. They are all the same person.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 10:31 AM) Democratic Media Group Ditches Ad Effort "Progressive Media will not be running an independent ad campaign this year," David Brock, the head of the organization, confirmed in a statement obtained by The Fix this morning. "Progressive Media was established to be an independent on-going progressive issue advocacy organization," Brock added. "We were not established for one issue, one candidate or one election cycle. But donors and potential donors are getting clear signals from the Obama camp through the news media and we recognize that reality." Those familiar with the group's decision cast it as largely the result of the stated desire of Sen. Barack Obama's campaign to not direct funds to outside organizations in hopes of better controlling the Democratic message in the fall. But the group was also struggling to raise the money necessary to be a major force in the presidential race and was riven by internal divisions. During a gathering of Obama's national finance committee earlier this month in Indianapolis, it was made clear to these top donors that they should concentrate on raising money for the candidate and not spend their time funding independent organizations of which Progressive Media USA is one. If Obama's troops listen so well, why hasn't Obama stepped up to stop the attacks on McCain's miliary service and his wife? You told me the other day that he couldn't stop them, now you are saying he can. Which is it???

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) Would you be in favor of oil rigs set up around Michigan City? I already live in a town with a gigantic garbage dump, a coal cooling tower, and not too far away from steel mills and the 3rd largest refinary in the country. I don't see much of a difference to be honest. In reality its that NIMBY attitude that has been as much of a factor in energy prices in this country versus anything other than demand. Everyone wants more of energy, until it involves them. Just like people want the high classes to pay more taxes, until that includes them... then they somehow are over taxed.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 10:12 AM) how is he lying. He said "I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election." Not "I 100% promise that no matter what I will run a publically financed campaign" And what happened??? "In the past couple of weeks, our campaign counsels met and it was immediately clear that McCain's campaign had no interest in the possibility of an agreement." Why? Because McCain KNEW that a publicly financed election meant the Obama campaign would make him agree to do all he could to shut down 527s. He doesnt REALLY want to do that. Those are his greatest assets. nothing better for a republican candidate than to have a 527 run by KARL ROVE On your side. If Obama had gone to McCain and asked to run a fully publicly financed campaign, John McCain would have done it in a heartbeat, because he knows how big of a disadvantage he is at in the money department. It would have been the biggest break in the campaign for McCain possible, and THAT is why Obama never seriously pursued it. As for the 527's, you just told me the other day that it doesn't matter what the campaign supporters say because you can't control them, so asking them to stop doesn't need to be done by the candidates. Funny how that changed. And don't throw the name Karl Rove at me, when the Democrats have people like David Axelrod and James Carville working for them. They are all the same person.