FlaSoxxJim

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 24, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) lol than you would support bugging Mosques (that is where the terrorists go, like drunks go to a bar). lol A whole lot more terrorists in this country have hung out in Christian churches than in mosques.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) Actually, I was thinking of a date which would become infamous many years later. Hmmm. I'm stumped. PA???

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 03:21 PM) Im so sick of hearing about racial profiling. . . And that is why I chose to table the profiling issue in this particular debate, which focuses on whethher the surveilances were legal and constitutional.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) Where in the Constitution does Congress grant this authority? Go back to Federalist 70 on this line of thinking. Congress can REGULATE war but cannot LEAD it. Furthermore, where does a statute supercede the Constitution itself? Bush *may* (I don't believe Daschle here - because otherwise this would have come out LONG ago) have asked for authority, but didn't NEED authority according to the Constitution itself. Yes, Congress regulates and the executive directs it. I don't know that the sessions leading upp to the 9/11 force resolution are classified or anything, but the procedings were obviously common knowledge to the joint Congress. So I'm not sure I follow the logic of Daschle's criticism coming out long ago. It is only now that the domestic spying issue has come to light, only now where the White House and DOJ are trying to say that the authority to request the wiretaps is implicit in the 9/18 resolution, and therefore ONLY NOW is it relevant that Daschle inform the debate by pointing out that the power explicitly asked for by the President was denied by Congress (ergo, the suggestion that such authorization is implicit in the resolution approved in that same session is erroneous)..

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 08:38 PM) Okay, smartypants, what's the date of the beginning of the flood? Ask Mike Brown. Just Kidding. He did a heckuva job. No, the good Bishop said it was 2348 BC. On a Thursday, I believe.

QUOTE(Cknolls @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) What's the problem? If there was a heightened level of radiation at one of these sites, it would be nice to know. I'm sure if you lived in an area showing elevated radiation levels you would want the gov't to investigate. Sure. After obtaining a warrant.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Because it's the erosion of rights and blatent racism. Well it is blatant racisim, but let's leave that out of the mix. The Constitution protects against illegal search without cause, and the courts are set up to determine whether probbable cause exists. Bypassing the courts is a Bozo no-no.

"Oh Mama!" bin Laden??

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) I'm not quite sure why that would be illegal, except for maybe the part about going onto people's property. The government isn't allowed to monitor radation levels without a warrant? How do they monitor things like pollution, radon, smog etc without warrents??? The snooping is directed at private individuals and private property and thus requires a warrant. The courts have determined it is illegal to randomly fly infrared sensors over homes to check for heat patterns that would indicate an indor pot operation. But with probable cause and a warrant they can do it. Same situation here. Racial profiling issues aside, if probable cause had been shown and warrants issued, monitoring these sites would be completely different. It again shows that BushCo does not care to bother with the pesky details that would force them to comply with the law.

Wow. That probably deserves its own thread.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) Not bad, but bonus points would have been awarded for Bi George... Crap!

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) FlaSoxxJim is a Karma Karma Karmeliannnn. (sp wrong on purpose...) Boy George, I think he's got it!

Showtime is considering picking up the show. Please do it! http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle....ARRESTED-DC.XML

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) It's worth a lot. Thank you, sir, for understanding where we're coming from as admins, etc. Apparently you're not Jewish.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Well, yeah, there is the problem right there. Well, I don't think she came out wearing the clothes, right??

Taking Gene's side on this, fwiw. The "You're Invited" thread title came right out of the publically posted party invitation. I think the kid and her parents are just having dome fun and being creative in preparing for the Bat Mitsvah. Likewise, Gene is having some fun as an outsider looking in on some of that silliness. Where she lives, etc., is all right in the publically posted information. Maybe it's a little insensitive to ridicule something the kid and her family are putting effort and imagination into. But you have to be trying really hard to find anything nefarious or unseemly in that initial post. When you put yourself up on the internet (like SW kid et al.), you invariably open yourself up to review and commentary by a larger audience than you intended.

Curly Howard.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:03 PM) Dang. I was going to make an Edgar Allen Poe joke, spelling Ussher incorrectly. But I see you did it for me. Edit: Maybe this is deeper than I thought. Now that I see the good Archbishop is further demeaned in your post. Ah, yes. Layers upon layers. Like an onion, as Schrek would say. Now don't tell me you want on the erudite joke grenade mailing list as well?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:05 PM) Flasoxx seems to be doing a self-chronicle in another thread, and I seem to be doing one here, but I continue to think This is important... And YAS is going to continue to ride you for it. Fight the Good Fight.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) Unless he does something really stupid like marrying Jeri Ryan and divorcing her or somehting like that. Grrrr, I'd like to assimilate that. (Resistance is futile)

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) I think it will be interesting to follow Obama's career. But he certainly needs some seasoning on the national stage so that everyone can get a better idea of the sort of leader he would be. I can't imagine him leading the ticket in 2008. Wow, that's a bold cartoonist to make that there Condi Bird.

I seem to be chronicaling (sp?) alll of this just for myself, but what the heck. Here's a pdf of a DOJ Office of Legislative Affairs memo released today formalizing their flimsy defense of President Bush’s warrantless domestic spying argument: http://www.nationalreview.com/pdf/12%2022%...SA%20letter.pdf And here is a very concise, incisive critique of that position from Think Progress: EDIT to add: Has anyone else noticed the Assistant Attorney General hand-off? Apparently sensing that Abu G's stammering, sidestepping and self-contradiction wasn't playing well and his political baggage wasn't helping matters either, the last two days it has been the more eloquent Assistant AG William Moschella taking the lead. Just an observation, and something I thought interesting.

QUOTE(mreye @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) What am I missing? He's supposed to be drunk? Yeay, looks like your average wedding guest. Now the pictures of him dancing naked on a bar in his cowboy boots – THAT'S one wasted future President!

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) Yea... and I agree. However, it's ironic that they scream and scream for alternative fuels - and then when it hits them, uhhhh, no... we can't do that THERE... off shore ... NIMBYism knows no political boundaries.

That's pretty tame. I've seen way worse from GWB's party days.