Jack Parkman

Rumor is the deal is Cohen, Foles and #20 for Wentz and #37.

Short answer: No Long answer: No fucking way.

I know, right?

They should learn from the O'Brien/Hopkins fiasco and fire Pace before he has a chance to make this trade.

Lolz

If true.

^^^^^^^^

If the Eagles aren't giving draft picks to the Bears for them to take his contract, a trade is just stupid.

Disclaimer: probably bullshit

Lmaooooo

Now I know why Bob is Jerry’s BFF. Jerry loves incompetence.

They'll get there eventually as the extensions already signed get more expensive and those without extensions enter arbitration.

People wonder why I'm so pessimistic about the Sox....... It's up to the organization to earn my optimism.

That's how they operate, yes. We're in agreement. The argument is whether they should do that.

Thirded.

Listen, I think you're right and they won't trade him. Based on how they operate, they should though. There is tons of evidence from the 2000-2012 window about how they'll handle it. My point isn't about what they will do, it's about what they should do based on their past behavior. They can get away with it if two or three of Cease/Kopech/Crochet hit big. If one or none do, they can't.

Teams that operate in the middle occasionally take the risk on a 9 figure contract, which the Sox have yet to do. They strategically pick their spots to spend on an expensive player. The Sox don't even do that. Even Robert and Moncada's extensions, if fully realized, will not reach 9 figures. The Sox do not take the calculated risks necessary to put their team over the top. There is no excuse for the Cardinals to have given out a higher contract than the Sox ever have. The Cardinals are a good example of a team that runs their team as a mid-market club properly. They pick their spots to spend and also let players that will get a ridiculous contract go. They gave Matt Holliday $120M back when that was a huge contract. Nobody is expecting the Sox to spend like the Dodgers, Yankees or Sawx/Cubs(during their windows) We expect them to spend more than league average though.

If he reaches FA in winter 2023 he'll be 29, the same age that Gerrit Cole got a 9 year, 336M deal, and Trevor Bauer is right now.

If he continues to get better and reaches free agency he absolutely will. If Bauer can get 200M, Giolito can.

You're not getting the point........at all. What the Sox do is inconsistent with any sort of organizational plan. It's like they're doing random shit and don't care. I want them to pick a fucking lane. Either spend the money occasionally or behave like the Rays or A's. They don't get to do neither because that's just dumb.

They will be selling if they do not want to give out 9 figure contracts that start with a 2, because they have players on this team that will command that kind of money.

I know......The Sox operate in this weird middle ground, where they refuse to give out 9 figure contracts and they also refuse to trade players deserving of them while they still have a year or two team control. What I am saying is that this is the most asinine position to take. Either you sign the guy or you trade them for players that can help in a year or two.......however with the way that top prospects are being valued in the current market, I could see the argument for them keeping a guy in his walk year. We'll see how the Rays and Cleveland made out in a year or two. If the Sox are going to continue to have a refusal to hand out 9 figure contracts, then maybe they should consider doing what those teams do. The issue with how the Sox are run is that they continue to walk the line between being a big market club and a small market club. Pick a lane. I want them to just be honest with their fans about what their budget is like. If they're going to go frugal, then we can hold them accountable when they DON'T act like Cleveland and Tampa, because if they're being that way, that's what they SHOULD do. I have no problems with them having a budget or whatnot, but don't act like Machado is an actual fucking possibility then, and behave accordingly. Be willing to take a step back in the middle of a window to minimize non-contention. My issue is that they continually lie to the fanbase about spending, and then do stupid shit like trade Dane Dunning for Lance Lynn. That's something that a big market club does.....that sets expectations. My issue is that the Sox operate in the most fan-unfriendly way on both lanes. They do all of the dumb shit for team building on both ends of the payroll spectrum and none of the smart things. What good is having financial flexibility if you never use it?

Not really........What would Cleveland and Tampa do if they were in the same point of contention that the Sox are? The Sox are in year 2 of a 4-5 year window. Compare what Cleveland did in the winters of 2015-17 to what the Sox did. That's an apples to apples comparison. The Sox acted like a small market team this winter, no question about it.