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anyone else download TV shows on Itunes? Any clue when they're available for download? is there a new episode of Lost tonight?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) if you take government out of marriage and personal relationships entirely, this whole issue becomes really simple. You want to pass on your assets on your death? Fine. Write it in a will. You want to associate with who you choose, in the way you choose? Go right ahead. You want to declare someone your confidant/spouse/best friend or whatever in some legal way? Fine. Its basically a living will. Hospitals, for example, would honor it. I just fail to see any benefit in gov't involvement in marriage. My marriage is no more or less healthy because we're legally recognized as being such. to me, I keep going back to health insurance because personally i shot the gambit and was without insurance for a year. I'm not saying I would take this route, but... if GLAD or whomever is making this fight wants equal rights access for two men or two women, then it shouldn't stop there, it should include ANY two people. therefore, if two brothers want to become "unionized" for the benefit of taxes, benefits, etc, then I think it should happen. I of course think this is a terrible idea, but from a logical standpoint, this is technically the only FAIR way to handle it. Then its not a sex thing, a gender thing, or an anything thing.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 06:26 PM) Yikes.. she's writing a letter back, and she's pissed. I know this will be hard to believe... but she's more vile and b****ier than I am when pissed. oh, her name is steff too?

As long as it's clearly stated that any two people can enter into a civil union, then I don't have a problem with civil unions. If its human rights, then it should be any two consenting adults. I mention the brother/sister thing because insurance benefits, under the current system, would not cover each other. i understand the next of kin thing from a tax/legal stand point, but it's not as inclusive as husband/wife. I do have a problem with Faith-base gay marriage, but I don't want to discuss that online.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 11:01 AM) Not to mention the thread crying about the original thread being closed... or the post where southsider2k5 adds to his sizable post count while adding nothing to the actual conversation

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 03:57 PM) There's no better way to sour me on someone's talent and creativity than actually coming in contact with their crappy personality. or crappy looks... although it is often nice to know that I'm just as or more attractive than someone that destroys my ability to make music. it's a little solace but I find it weird to look at pictures of people who I only recognize by their voice and esteem highly. Colin Coherd was like that. I still like him, but he doesnt look like what I pictured.

I'm not trying to argue or imply anything other than what my question states. If there is a crisis for healthcare in america, couldn't civil unions open a gate for people to abuse the system? why would you have to pretend to be gay? Could the granting state withhold a marriage or union license even if you were dead honest that you're only doing it to get tax, health, and other benefits? or is it that we simply need to appear that love exists, in order for a union to be granted? Furthermore, to continue on that thought, if I had a sister (I don't) and she needed health coverage, could they stop us from unionizing our relationship? I certainly love her (as my make believe sister) so the love "threshhold" has been met. so give me the damn license, right? "Ok, PA, but....." I know I'll hear the "siblings can't marry because of birth defects, etc" arguement, but that doesn't hold water in today's scientific age. If dudes can become chicks through an operation and marry dudes, then why can't brothers or sisters marry, if they get an operation to stop conception? besides the state does not require proof of sexual consecration of marrige, right? so....here's what I'm not against: I'm not against civil unions, even though you all might think that from my typical posts or even the questions in this post, I'm just about asking questions. I don't have much stake in it either way, honestly, so there's no reason to get hot headed about it. I'm about to get married and I'm juar interested in seeing where people draw their line in the sand for what's "acceptable" and what is not. Here's what I am against: I honestly think that there's an incredible special interest in this cause (hollywood) and that's why this topic gets the push it does. It's not about "universal equal rights" its about "gay rights". I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but just call it that. Unfortunately, when you do call it that, you're once leaving groups of people out in the proverbial cold in regards to equal rights access. (as described above) Which is, sad to say, the very thing you're arguing in your favor. at some point we all draw a line and bigot against the thing we "believe" is to be unacceptable. It's human nature. So, in conclusion, there's really only two choices in the matter: Continue on the path we are and uphold the historical and traditional practice of a man and a woman being the definition of marriage (not unlike the pledge of alligence) or open the gates ALL THE WAY and allow ANYONE to enter into a civil union with another person. That is the only fair thing to do. And that's what all of this is about. Fairness, right? or just enough fairness to get your cause in the door of "civil rights". This is just my opinion based on logic and experience and nothing I've heard or seen on tv or radio, so let's have an honest dialogue and forget the name calling. thanks. thoughts anyone?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 03:15 PM) Are you guys implying that VW's have low maintenance cause aside from some cool looks they are some of the worse built cars on the road. I happen to love Audi's but even they are built like garbage (in terms of maintenance). But I know for a fact that VW's (jetta's especially) are some of the biggest piles of crap ever (in terms of how they hold up, not commenting on whether they are nice cause they got a cool look, plus tons of hot chicks drive them). I'm implying that my engine will be around until 2034, but the rest of my car is slowly breaking off like an alkaseltzer in a glass of water. Added to that, VW parts are EXPENSIVE. I like my golf, because you're right, they look hot, but they're junk.

Turk, the janitor and Dr Cox are the best characters on the show. I've seen all 5 seasons episodes 3-4 times each..... cos I'm a loser.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:52 PM) i guess i answered my own question... "Typically, marriage is the institution through which people join together their lives in emotional and economic ways through forming a household. It often confers rights and obligations with respect to raising children, holding property, sexual behavior, kinship ties, tribal membership, relationship to society, inheritance, emotional intimacy, health care, and love." and honestly, do you know of 2 straight guys that would pretend to be gay and tell their boss that they are gay, have a civil union just to get health insurance. and if so, is that any different then hetrosexual couples doing the same? no I don't, and I actually added the "two people in general" part because from a legal standpoint I don't see much of a difference between 2 men or a man and a woman.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:44 PM) as a married individual, i'm wondering, what are all of the rights and responsibilites afforded to me??? to be denied sex as frequently as possible? QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 01:37 PM) The NJ ruling stops short of saying Gay Marriage is a requirement.... but it does say this. Rex, do you have decent health coverage? ...maybe you and I can make an arrangment? seriously though, aside from the social implications, what's to stop two guys, two girls, or two people in general from "getting married" simply to enjoy the benefits of employers, etc....? is this something that happens?

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:41 PM) The Engines are solid. Im at 51K on my Scion after 18 months. Only problem I've had is people hitting my car and a light bulb burning out on the air conditioner console. my bro has a tC, and I've driven it a bunch. It's a little plastic on the inside and small for my-large-ass-self in the back seat....but otherwise it hauls and looks great.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 01:59 PM) They Might Be Giants are rude assholes who couldn't find the time to say hello to the only station staff in Columbus who was playing their music in 1998 when they were doing an in-studio appearance. We've been agreeing way too much today....but I'm with you. I saw them at Kutztown University in 99-00, and saw them backstage (because I was bored with the violent femmes) and they were rude as hell and left the show in their rented crown victorias.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) Depends on where your Golf was made. In Germany, reliable. Their Mexican facilities have loads of problems. Did you buy your VW in Texas or PA? in PA, via Ohio (original owner), via Mexico.... so yeah, POS. I do have 155k on the original engine and tranny though. 3 windshields, 3 left fenders, and 1,000,000 bottles of oil later, however.

Melissa Auf der Maur?..... yes please

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) The Focus had a neat look to it when it first came out, similar to a VW Golf. I was eyeing it for a while meself. I have a golf right now, so it was an easy sell.... similar look with half the cost to fix. ....damn VWs.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 01:58 PM) IKEA. I own so much of it, I'm part Swedish now. I can't respond with anything that wouldn't get me banned, so here's a funny picture:

Outside of Texas (I'd own an F-150 for the record), Ford base a predominate amount of its sales to rental companies. Only due to economics would I buy a ford (the focus tempted me once).

I'd like to represent the beef jerky industry and to thank them for the AWESOMEST product in history.

this to me is like the Catholic Preist scandals.... EVERYONE knew that kids were getting hurt, but 20-30 years go by and the Catholic Leadership does nothing. EVERYONE knows that Fords suck goat balls and Ford's leadership do everything but make their cars worth investing in. "Built Ford Tough" only goes as far as your car breaking down 3 times in a month. No one believes in your product, so DO something to change that BESIDES fancy marketing. "you can polish a turd....but it's still a turd at the end of the day"

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 24, 2006 -> 10:01 PM) Good for my TMBG fix!! Anybody who doesn't appreciate the Sweet Gianty Greatness of that band is a sad waste of skin. tmbg @ the trocodero winter 1996....one of the best shows I ever been to.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 06:09 AM) My cache never clears now, and every time I download something, it's usually corrupt. Do I just have corrupted files on my PC or a bad registry? is cache a funny australian way of saying money? you aussies are so zaney

perhaps their psychoses started long before their visit to Paris...maybe this guys explains it:

STOP MAKING SO MUCH NOISE!!! There's only so much compressed air i can fire in your orafices before I just give up. if you don't stop making noises, you will certainly meet an untimely demise. sincerely, PA prologue: this whole time you juse wanted me to stick a plastic thing in your rear fan...and now you've stopped!!! YEAH! *cue music* Imagine me and you, I do....I think about you day and night, it's only right....To think about the girl you love and hold her tight....So happy together

it sounds faked, unfortunately.