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QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 11:10 AM) This thread has been hilarious. Guillen has been nothing short of spectacular for a first-time manager, bringing a World Series to a city that has been without one for 88 years; and yet, people will still question his defensive substitutions (or lack thereof), bullpen decisions, and lineup card on a daily basis. Part of me wants Guillen to get axed just so all of you can sit through a manager that does everything by the book. Go ask Bob Brenly how that worked our for him and his career. Ask Bobby Cox how he was able to manage the same franchise for 17 years--by playing every decision by the book? Hardly...and, yet, Guillen developed his managerial prospectives while under Cox's tutelage. If managers' decisions are worth roughly 10 wins or losses per year, Guillen has earned this team far more wins than he has losses. You want Bob Brenly, you can have him. Get real. I've noticed a lot of Guillen defenders take a macro approach in defending him. Like your post, they compare Guillen to other managers, I'm guessing as a way to make Guillen look like a good manager when evaluated on a curve. They mention guys like Brenley, Manuel and Bevington, even though those managers have nothing to do with the topic in discussion. I believe Guillen defenders take this approach instead of discussing a specific criticism because they understand Guillen's decision was wrong and there's no way to defend it. Hence the reason for avoiding the topic and basically saying while Guillen is bad at his job, he's often better than some!

I've been happy with Erstad's play.

http://www.artsjournal.com/adaptistration/...out_is_f_1.html

I've been happy with our team's play, and I'm surprised to find we're in 4th place. Feels like we should be higher.

"Here's Tejada"? Come on Hawk.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 06:14 PM) Inspired by another thread, I was wondering what y'all are looking/listening for in a sports talk show host. I want good to great guests, good pacing, relevant stuff outside of sports, and finally, if the host absolutely has to, perhaps some commentary from the host. I don't care as much about what the hosts thinks, I'd rather spend a hour listening to six guests than the host and one guest, no matter how knowledgeable the host may be. Keep it moving, I don't want to spend thirty minutes on one topic, well at least most of the time. I'm a Jim Rome fan. I've noticed when I tell people that, most disagree and mention the Jim Everett interview and think Rome's a hack. I was too young to listen to him back then, but I think his style has changed drastically compared to today. I can't blame Chicagoans for not realizing this change because Rome's show isn't live here, so it's easy to miss. His interviews are smooth and professional; he amazes me how he thinks of a question relevant to what the interviewee just stated. He's very well prepared in his interviews and show scheduling. He has 3-4 interviews daily in his 3-hour show, with sports-diverse guests, usually favoring whatever sports are current. But I wouldn't listen regularly if it weren't for his humor and the witty emails from the listeners. Rome often has a segment where he will talk about bizarre current events no one else covers, like an intoxicated college student who stole a gay ram from his school's lab and was pulled over with it in the back of his pickup. I used to buy his program through his web site, allowing me to listen without commercials. I plan on buying it again soon.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 05:31 PM) Hahahaha. Oh yes, I wish we had him instead of Ozzie, please!!!!!!! When will the stupidity stop? On a sane note. Zambrano said in the postgame that a more experienced CF'er would have gotten to those balls that dropped. Way to already call out your prized FA signing. Not one of us said we'd prefer Narron over Guillen, just that Narron handled this specific situation correctly and won, unlike Guillen who handled it incorrectly and lost. QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 05:28 PM) and even he can make basic managing 101 moves.

Let's hope Guillen has a good game tonight. It'd be conducive to winning for him to use his personnel correctly and not repeat his mistakes. Hopefully he's learned how to protect a late-inning lead.

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:45 PM) How many rings has Jerry Narron won?? Freel is their starting center fielder. Coming in as a defensive replacement on a day off should almost be expected. Narron had his best defensive outfield playing in the 9th inning of a one-run game at the expense of losing one of his team's best hitters, Adam Dunn. Guillen chose not to have his best defensive outfield play in the 9th inning of a one-run game. Jerry Narron's Reds won; Guillen's Sox lost.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 04:31 PM) Well there goes Griffey's ego. Put him on suicide watch!!! Griffey was in RF all game. Narron took Dunn out of LF, Freel went to center, and I'm not sure who played LF in the 9th. Narron took out Dunn, but Guillen couldn't take out Podsednik's bat. Piniella's visibly upset in the postgame interview. Rips on Ohman for throwing 40-foot curves. "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK ISN'T WORKING? YOU'VE SEEN THE DAMN GAME" -Piniella answering the question, "What do you think went wrong in today's game?" Comcast.

With the Reds leading by one run in the bottom of the 9th, manager Jerry Narron goes to his bench to put Ryan Freel in CF and takes out his worst defender, Adam Dunn. Hmmm.

QUOTE(beautox @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 03:30 PM) lol did anyone see cedeno take out soriano, after soriano broke back up a pop up? man their defense is so s***ty. haha Soriano asleep at the wheel again, thats two pick offs. Yeah, Soriano's having a horrible start to the season. He misread the ball flight, breaking back before realizing he had to come in to make a play. His bad read is the reason he couldn't make the catch coming in on the ball, and definitely had a negative effect on the inning. The Cubs would still probably be winning this game if Soriano's defense doesn't fail. Soriano also cost his team a good scoring chance a couple innings later when he got picked off first base with one out. The next hitter, Theriot singled. The Cubs failed to score that inning. Soriano has less home runs on the year than Podsednik and Zambrano. QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 03:14 PM) yeah... I was watching that. Weurtz pulled a lesser version of a David Aardsma. Those were 3 straight terrible AB's by the Reds though. Yeah, Wuertz did one hell of a job pitching out of that based loaded jam by striking out the side. Cotts has looked good this season also. He pitched two scoreless innings today. Piniella has been using his young, promising outfielder, Matt Murton like Guillen's been using his young, promising outfielder, Brian Anderson.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 09:15 AM) Fri, Apr 13, 7:05 pm EDT - (J. Vázquez vs. F. Carmona) Sat, Apr 14, 7:05 pm EDT - (J. Danks vs. P. Byrd) Sun, Apr 15, 1:05 pm EDT - (J. Contreras vs. C. Sabathia) As long as our guys play hard and have fun, I'll be happy. GO TEAM!

Prior was scheduled to pitch 3 innings but could only go 2 before leaving with a trainer. He has discomfort in his pitching shoulder. He's expected to meet with Dr. Yocum.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 02:29 PM) Old Comiskey was a sad tired relic of graffiti and trash. Totally unfriendly to families and the neighborhood was in need of improving. USCF is clean, nice, updated, friendly and the area is a lot safer than it used to be. Well, they call him the working man.

And he was playing hardball over his arbitration contract this past offseason. Maybe he knew it might be his last chance to collect.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 12:47 AM) Ugueth Urbina

I like it.

I'm more lenient with blame on Podsednik, Jenks and our offense because these players are involved in a physical competition with opponents who are trying to beat them. Ozzie Guillen is not being physically challenged by an opponent; there's no resisting force stopping Guillen from making educated, premeditated personnel decisions to give his team the best chance of winning. For him to fail at such a job when he has unquestioned authority leaves him solely to blame for his personnel choices. The Sox offense failed many times over the game, yet still had the lead going into the bottom of the 9th inning. Jenks recorded a blown save and a loss, but had Erstad or BA been his left fielder, he likely could have gotten the save pitching exactly the same as he did in the loss. Guillen, a mi manera, he did it his way.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:11 AM) How does having ba in CF guarantee that the ball gets caught in LF? Don't tell me you knew that's where the ball was going and would've had ba in LF. You're done.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:02 AM) I just don't see how Ozzie would get all the blame for this one when Jenks was pitching so s***ty. If you're an Ozzie-hater, you have to reeeeeeally stretch to blame this loss all on Ozzie or most of the blame on Ozzie and Podsednik over Jenks. But you do acknowledge Guillen's mistake of not using BA as a 9th inning defensive replacement, right?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:01 AM) Who the f*** is the screener for the Sox Post game shows on the score? Can we get a little variety? Must every f***ing caller be a PFB clone? He proves me wrong every once in a while but the proof is on this site, a lot of the times when people end up b****ing about Ozzie after the game, that same complaint was made at the time of the move. Often by myself. Yeah, the last caller comment about Guillen's use of bench players has no relevance to tonight's game at all.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 12:40 AM) This is something I always state. From what I recall, we haven't thrown anyone out at home since Jermaine Dye did it against the Twins in August or September of 2005. Over the last two years, we might have had the worst throwing outfield in baseball history when it comes to accuracy or power. Part of the problem is AJP letting the sound of the footsteps scare him out of catching the ball. I can visualize numerous plays where the runner would have been out had AJ caught the throw cleanly.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 12:32 AM) It's tough to say. Ozzie should have brought in BA or Pablo, sure, but either way, it doesn't guarantee that Bradley is out at home. Then again, I'm 95% sure I could have thrown out Bradley from the distace Pods tried to. Ask SoxAce if you don't believe me. Chances don't mean squat really. Thats just your way of saying "I'd be less pissed if it was BA or Erstad that missed the throw home." Give it a rest, and L is and L. The better chances a team has, the more likely it is to win. Example: BA over Pods in the outfield as a 9th inning defensive replacement. BA gives his team a better chance at winning than Pods does, so whether or not BA fails, he's still more likely to help the team win. The difference between winning and losing the game tonight could have been BA starting the 9th in the outfield. If you can't understand that...

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 12:21 AM) Oh, I agree that Ozzie doesn't know how to manage and completely mis-handled the game. I just don't think its right to authoritatively state that BA (or, more correctly, Erstad) would have nailed him. Maybe he air-mails it to. But we know he's got a much better chance than Pods. Yeah, I agree. I was wrong to definitively state BA would have thrown Bradley out at the plate. Especially with AJP fumbling a lot of plays at the plate. That said, Guillen made a mistake not putting his best defensive outfielders in the 9th inning of a 1-run game.