Dick Allen

I think a lot depends on how torn it its. Ron Artest missed 12 days.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:16 AM) Makes too much sense. If that's his home why wouldn't he sign there? He's got all the money he'll ever need. Sign his 4 year 60 million dollar deal and be done with it. While I don't blame any player for taking the biggest offer. I am with you. Unless there is a significant difference with contracts, this is pretty much a no brainer. People gave ARod grief for taking the highest offer when he was a free agent. But when it's $100 million higher, I don't see how you criticize a guy from walking away from that.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 02:29 PM) Perez turned 22 while rehabbing. Martinez is 36. FYI, if you Google Victor Martinez, it's the same as Jay Cutler, a massive bodybuilder appears. Perez had his surgery a month later, and had to have his knee rehabbed enough to catch. Martinez only to DH. I think he'll start the year on the DL, but I would bet he's back before May 1 assuming no complications . The season starts about a week later this year.

I don't know if this belongs here but he is on TV, but what's the deal with Brian Williams? How can he expect anyone to buy that he "misremembered" a tale he told more than a few times, about being in a helicopter that was shot down, when the reality was he wasn't? This has to cost him his job, doesn't it?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 4, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) I think the defensive limitations just made his downside too low. As many have argued on this board, his skillset makes him an exceedingly poor fit as a fourth or fifth outfielder, essentially meaning that he needed to break out to be of any use at all. I imagine several teams would have taken a flyer on his bat if they felt they could at least use him on the bench in any instance. Even though $4.4m isn't a ton these days, it'll still buy you a pretty high-end bench player, so to commit it on a guy who likely won't even be that useful doesn't seem like a prudent use of resources, especially given the nearly every team is "going for it" to a certain degree this year. Yes, but they could see where he's at in spring training for a few weeks for next to nothing. Someone will sign him, and probably wind up saving a couple million. There obviously isn't a team out there that thinks highly of his ability, because they don't seem to care about losing him over $1-2 million.

I am pretty stunned they couldn't find someone to give them garbage for him.

He's been about what you would expect for a month and a half of Gordon Beckham so far: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/p...traderumors.com

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 4, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) This really does make it look like it's going to be an easy TD: Just a perfect break by the DB there or the Seahawks score. The play he made was hanging on to the ball with contact. It wasn't going to be a TD even if complete. If he doesn't catch it, maybe Carroll comes to his senses and the Patriots are screwed.

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 4, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) I don't care what they play. I wouldn't mind if they mixed it up. It doesn't have to be a ritual of the same song every day. Not a bad idea. Maybe act like a player and ride some tunes when you are winning.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 4, 2015 -> 08:48 AM) Just please, please, please no friggin cheerleaders or the like. The stupid Chevy Crew thing is bad enough. That's why I think it won't be a very drastic change. They have the Pride Crew. They do a lot of things they already do at NBA games. I think there will be new videos, some new music. Maybe some of the in between inning activities will change. I know he is taking heat for never being at a Sox game, but maybe that is actually in his favor. They are trying to get people who don't go to Sox games to attend. He may be an expert at that.

QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) Band or political shill? I was thinking band, but I guess it probably works for both.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) One thing, compare how the Bulls utilize Benny vs whatever the sox do with Southpaw. The # of skits and routines Benny does are huge hits. Southpaw dances and interviews, but he's mostly a photo op and useless. Do I care? No. I've already said the only thing I want is God Bless America gone. Maybe put a golden ticket between one seat in each section that gives you access to a decked out, clean bathroom where everything is made out of gold. The Bulls, before MJ, used to have Superfan. He was this really heavy guy that would do a lap around the lower bowl every time Tommy Edwards would say "Where are you Superfan". It was amazing he never had a coronary. Eventually, he lost a ton of weight, and I think the novelty wore off.

They already shoot t-shirts into the stands. I don't think things will be all that much different than they are now except for maybe some new tunes. They have kids racing down the lines. Southpaw gets some time. I go to games to see what happens during the innings, but some find what goes on in between the difference between attending and staying home. I can't imagine it being irrating enough to keep me away from coming, although the t-shirt tosses get to be ridiculous. People knocking people down for a cheap Chevy t-shirt.

This guy thinks the Cubs are better than the Sox. PECOTA says the same thing. Why should anyone here care?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) The Cubs are pretty much immune to everything that the rest of the sports world faces. They are the exception to pretty much every rule out there. They also got a pass on frisking people going into the park last year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) IIRC that was an MLB directive, and I am guessing no one wants to be the person to stop doing it for fear of being labeled a commy. The Cubs don't do it. They do it before the game with the Anthem. Celebrity Take Me Out To The Ballgame takes a backseat to no one.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 09:51 AM) I agree with Roost but it's water under the bridge. Anyway, Samardzija will be, at best, the third to best starter on the FA market next year; and maybe the 5th to best. What does that do to his leverage? He has a lot riding on his 2015 results. What makes one think he would take at least a slight discount if he extended is the "waiting to see what it's like". Unless he signs with a team he's played with, if his goal is the open market, one thing he isn't going to know is "how it's like" with the team he ultimately joins.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 1, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Andrew Jones drawing interest from teams. Not saying he would be good, but I would like it if he was back in the league. One of my favorite all time players. He actually was pretty good his one season with the White Sox, although his all time great-like defense had slipped a bunch then.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 07:32 PM) We gave our 2 top pitching prospects for a pitcher with an ERA in excess of 5...plus, Arizona was in salary dump mode. Franchise killer? No Overpay? Without question. Plus, it was a zig zag. Why were we trying to land a 1.5 year rent at that point anyway? . They were trying to win, just like they are now. The Sox gave a closer 8 figures a year this winter and surrendered a 2nd round draft pick. They traded one of their best prospects for a pitcher not signed beyond 2015, and gave a player "on the wrong side of 30" a 3 year deal and gave up a 3rd round pick. They signed a 35 yreat old for $25 million to DH. If you had an inside source and said this was the White Sox plan 6 months ago, many of the same people loving it now, would have been panning it then. The better team you root for, the more fun it is. Your love of prospects is commendable, but most don't work out. One thing KW did right with the Sox minor leaguers is recognize that.

Other than Robertson, BP is projecting the rest of the projected Opening Day bullpen to be worse than replacement level. They also don't even have a projection for Noesi saying if life was a meritocracy, the 172 innings he pitched in the major leagues last season would decrease 172 innings in 2015.the good news is John Danks 0.6 projected WAR would make him a projected 2 or 3 starter on the Royals if that were based on WAR.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 10:17 AM) The sin was zig-zagging and not getting full value for either the prospects he traded nor the vets he traded. He overpays for E Jackson then gives him away; he overpays for Swisher, then gets zip when he dumps him. He gifts TCQ to the Padres. Etc. Etc. In hindsight, the Swisher crap looks real bad. In real time, not that bad. He was a switch hitter signed to a team friendly contract, who took his walks, and got on base, hit with power and was coming into his prime years. Gio was a high price, but he wasn't loved here at Soxtalk. People want to be like the Cardinals. They traded Shelby Miller for a one year rental who hits lefties worse than Adam LaRoche, and people here seem to freak out about how LaRoche can't hit lefties. Swisher obviously didn't work out. He refused to work with the coaches, performed poorly, and his act got old fast. They were getting rid of him no matter what. They got garbage in return without a doubt, but that was the going rate. With the Edwin Jackson, I still don't understand how that is a franchise killer. Hudson was impressive for a while. Jackson was really good with the White Sox. Hudson now has had 2 TJ surgeries, and the Sox still have Daniel Webb to show from the EJax trade. At this point, I would rather have Webb than Hudson. Carlos Quentin wasn't netting the Sox anything. He spends most of the baseball season on the DL.

The problem with the White Sox system before was not that they traded away good prospects and therefore had none left, they traded away except for one or two exceptions, guys that turned out to be not so great, but they still had no one any good in the system. Hopefully the guys they have now are different. Prospects are BS for the most part, and some guys all of us really like now will be considered garbage in a year or two. I wasn't exactly a KW supporter, but by dealing prospects that didn't amount to much, he wound up with a lot more value than if he had let them develop into what they would ultimately become in the White Sox system. The sin wasn't trading prospects away.

QUOTE (AlSoxfan @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 09:21 AM) I'm with Dick on him. I think we have as good if not better right now. Not a big fan of his but still wonder why Det. is not picking him back up. The other thing about him is he is still getting play like it is 2008. He really hasn't been any good longer than Gordon Beckham.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) When the owner says "jim thome will be a manager one day", that's when you know he's ventura's replacement. That said, I wish bell took the job in 2011. I belive they would have made the postseason in 2012 with a veteran manager. Bell was a veteran manager in Colorado and KC. All 3 of his stops which includes Detroit, the team won more games the year before he managed, and the year after he left than they did when he was managing, Maybe it is a coincidence, but listening to what he had to say abiut clear busts, would make one think not.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) I think I'm starting to like the idea of adding Joba Chamberlain to the bullpen. He had an excellent first half of the season but really struggled in the 2nd half. During his off days, he was traveling back home to Nebraska to be with his ailing mom at the time, so you can say that could of affected him mentally. Rosenthal also said that he has already turned down offers from teams he does not want to be apart of. What you guys think? With all of their bullpen woes, it does make you wonder why the Tigers don't seem to want him back.