Dick Allen

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) I'm not sure how arbitration works for international free agents, but B-R says he's Arb eligible in 2016 and won't be a FA till 2018. Perhaps I'm wrong in thinking that's true. I think he had something in his contract. He's not exactly a high on base guy. A poster last year said Beane didn't like him and he thought he would be available. That was a nice scoop.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 08:50 AM) Lester and Gomes for Cespedes Wow. There was a poster on here last year that knew Billy Beane's daughter or something and swore Beane didn't like Cespedes. I hope he or she comes on here to gloat.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 08:40 AM) The odds of Danks getting hurt today are slim to none, but why even risk it if you a think a trade is near? The Red Sox scratched Jon Lester, the Cubs kept Bonaficio out of the lineup, why? Exactly. Just a minor tweak ruins the deal. Unlike when the Sox traded for Peavy and it really didn't matter if he was able to pitch right away, anyone trading for Danks wants to use him immediately. I do know one thing, if Danks did get hurt today and it came out that the Sox had a deal lined up but that injury killed it, somehow it would be 23's fault.

One of the best deadlines was 2004. I was watching ESPN as the clock struck zero. It's when the Cubs got Nomar and the Sox picked up Contreras. There was a flury in the last hour.

IMO, the bluff for Danks ends at gametime. If he is starting, he's not getting traded today. Even if he doesn't start, he may not, but not only for injury purposes, a team acquiring him wouldn't be able to use him for 5 days. If something is anywhere near close, I'm thinking they at the very least push him back. I still don't think today's deadline means all that much to the White Sox in terms of who they are trading. Their guys shouldn't have a problem getting through waivers and if they don't, they may let them go anyway.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) I am appalled that our pitching staff was set up to have Sale skip this series and let Noesi throw batting practice to the Tigers. We all know that it will be easier to win the division than make the wild card due to the number of teams to pass in the standings. A sweep of this series would have greatly enhanced those chances, but it appears now that the best we can do is win the series 2-1 (which only gains one game in the standings). Ventura should have had this series highlighted when setting up the rotation after the all star break and Sale should have been one of those on the mound (with Noesi not throwing this series). Just another example of mismanagement by our leader Robin and further proof we will never win a World Series with him at the helm. Not to mention leaving Leury Garcia out of the line up is beyond puzzling. This joker doesn't want to win.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:23 PM) I'd hope Alexei is being dangled in the Yankees Danks talks. He would slot just fine in their gaping 2B hole. The White Sox could use a gaping hole at SS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Yeah, Masterson has to be pretty thrilled right now at not having the compensation monster hanging over his off season. After how he has performed this year, you have to figure if it was offered he would have taken it.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) I'll suck it, Too much informatioin.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:20 PM) Cubs get Felix Doubrant from Red Sox for PTBNL O's close to acquiring Lester. Interesting. So if Boston isn't going to win, they are going to do their best to make sure the Yankees don't either. Rivalries are dope.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) While generally true, that isn't reason enough to dismiss all criticism. Especially in this day and age in sports, where quite a bit of value has come from those outside of the those who have played the game. Gamethreads are pretty well known for 100% strategic accuracy (assuming if something didn't work out, any alternative would 100% of the time). Of course the "mistake" isn't pointed out until after the fact.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:34 PM) If the Yankess arent in play for Danks why do they keep calling? Crank call

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:30 PM) Not true. You've always got to take it the other extreme. Look, I get it that being a manager in baseball is a fairly thankless job. When something goes wrong, the manager gets blamed, but when things go right, the player gets the credit. But these moves he makes and doesn't make, they go beyond that. This criticism isn't isolated either. I laugh hearing the handicappers here moaning about terrible he is. Message board managing is like paper trading. Everyone makes millions when they paper trade. All amateur managers would win 100+ games a year if they were calling the shots.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) For the same reason that the dodgers actually traded for Darwin Barney and the sox claimed Moises Sierra There is a difference in the money. The Cubs paid some money to get rid of Barnery. Sierra makes the minimum or close.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) Yeah, this is the argument one makes when his decisions turned out to be wrong. And yours and the others are from hindsight. If his decisions work out, it is probably what you would have done. If they don't, he's an idiot, it was obvious what he should have done, and there is no way the alternative would have failed.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) I guess it's hard to argue with you and WiteSoxFan if you are so set on arguing absurdities. Santiago's splits lefty/lefty lefty/righty aren't all that different except for power. In the 4th inning of the 9th game of the year, I would rather have Robin have the starter facing the guy hitting .241 vs. bringing in a reliever who had pitched the day before to face their best hitter hitting .417. If that's absurd, then there really is no word to describe your anger towards the scenerio.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Were you at the game? Santiago v. Harper was 1000% better as a choice than a worn out Axelrod facing Ryan Zimmerman, when he'd already spent almost 100 pitches in 3.2 innings and wasn't going to give you anything more. Harper versus righties in 2013: .300, .388, .560 Harper versus lefties in 2013: .214, .327, .321 Enough said! That supports Ventura walking Harper to get to Zimmerman. Which is exactly what happened.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:39 PM) So by this logic, which is exremely flawed, Robin hasn't cost the Sox anything this year. And by that logic, Joe Maddon has been a good manager once the past 6 seasons.

Rodon should be at least a little rusty. So the walks and WP shouldn't concern anyone.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:12 PM) For James Ramsey, the Cards 1st round pick in 2012. Not a bad return for the 2014 Masterson. I wonder if Cleveland is picking up mopst of the cash. I would imagine so.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) That's kind of bogus. The Red Sox did a great job negotiating that contract (or at least that aspect of it) and they don't get to reap the benefits. If they gave him 20 million they wouldn't be able to back out. I wonder how that contract year is affecting the trade talks. http://firebrandal.com/2014/07/29/john-lac...r-2015-red-sox/ Here's a little bit on it. He will use it as means for an extension. So while you may get him dirt cheap next season, the year after will cost you. I guess it makes a lot of sense for teams with money coming off the books in a year.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:04 PM) Are you assuming this or do you have a link to back it up? That's the story going around. Even if he stays in Boston.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 12:55 PM) God, the Red Sox suck. They're horrible this year, have a great farm and have numerous ways to cash in/sell high. Lester, Lackey and Miller have all had great years and teams are going to have to pay a lot for them. People don't realize how valuable Lackey is, because of a silly clause in his contract, Lack will be making $500K next year. Whoever trades for him could be paying a 3/4 type effectively the league minimum. He won't play for that. He will require an extension or he'll probably retire.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 12:33 PM) Rose needs to call up Tony Snell's barber and get a fresh cut. Thibs needs to paint some hair on like Carlos Boozer did a couple of years ago.

I don't think the Sox are going to trade Viciedo. What will they get for him? You might as well wait and see if he can turn it around.