Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) So what, you hold on to guys that are only going to get older and worse instead of stockpiling as many young players/assets as you can? I'm just saying it isn't as easy as that. Dump Deng, Boozer and Hinrich add Mirotic. Rose returns less than the player he has been. You have $10 million in cap space. Get a mid first round pick. You now are in NBA hell. A team too good to be in the lottery, let alone have a good chance of landing in the top 2 or 3 picks, and a team not nearly good enough to win a championship. Assuming Rose is never again the player he was, if you are going to blow it up, the only way that makes sense is to dump everybody. Rose and Noah included.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 10:33 AM) That is the entire point to rebuilding now. They don't need to wait two years to find out that a guy who has had two major knee surgeries might not be the same player anymore. The problem is he will still probably be too good to let them be real bad, and too expensive to let them add a max or near max guy. They should start trying to re-build, but they have a lot of stuff in their way.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 10:31 AM) http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle...o-tell-the-tale Wasn't that Teague on a video at the pre-draft camp missing just about every shot he took?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 10:26 AM) Which is why you go after younger players (like q proposed) that you think you can develop and can help you long-term. Stars win in the playoffs. Maybe Mirotic will be a star, but if he's Toni Kukoc, he's a really nice player, but complimentary. After the top 3 in this draft, it still is a crapshoot with really nice players who may or may not be guys who lead teams to championships. The Bulls more than likely won't be selecting very high this draft. Detroit is currently out of the lottery. The Charlotte pick may not even be a lottery pick. Again, if Rose isn't Rose, the Bulls championship dreams are toast until they find another star.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 26, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) Which is exactly why they need to blow it up. Yet you still hear people go "I dunno, they should hold it together one more year." But even if you blow it up, it isn't going to help the Bulls that much. Get rid of Deng, Boozer, Hinrich, you have enough money to add a Taj Gibson-like player. If Rose isn't Rose, the Bulls will be screwed for a long time.

So if Deng and Hinrich get off the books and Boozer is amnestied, I read where the Bulls still only will have about $10 million in cap space. Any huge free agent will have to take a huge discount or there will have to be a sign and trade.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 06:45 PM) Navarro is not getting anywhere close to $10M a year. Ruiz just get under $9M per and has a much better track record. I'll say 1 or 2 years at $5/$6M per tops. I bet he doesn't get that much.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 06:12 PM) I'd take him for like 2-3 years for $15-20M. But with the contract McCann got, it wouldn't shock me to see Navarro get $10M a year from someone. Are you hiring?

What could the Bulls realistically get for Deng?

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 01:43 PM) So there are reports coming out that Cutler may be done for the season with a torn tendon in his ankle. Awesome. I don't know how long he can keep it up, but losing Cutler hasn't cost the Bears a game, and with that defense, they aren't winning in the playoffs anyway.

Why don't you go back and read my initial response. I only said his math was off. I wasn't being argumentative. He responded with a different argument. You are a moderator. Why don't you just be fair instead of trying to rip certain posters for nothing?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 11:40 AM) You can make them into two different things for arguments sake. Again, to me, it was pretty obvious what he was saying. If you check out my first response, I said his math was off as the Sox made one move, he mentioned 5 or 6 others, and said that was 80-85% done. He was the one that made something else out of it, not me. So you agree, the Sox offseason is 80-85% done.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 07:42 AM) But it requires the Bulls to take on whatever bad contract is being sent back unless you're getting a currently-expiring deal, and a "high dollar currently expiring deal" has significant value to teams trying to get under the cap this year, so acquiring Boozer would hurt that. The Bulls would probably have to send something along like a draft pick to sweeten the deal there. Some team might want Boozer. If you appreciate what he is and not what you think he should be, he isn't a bad player.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 07:48 AM) It's November, dear lord. Wait until the free agency settles in a bit. Santiago will have more value after a couple more Vargas deals. You are right. Generally, free agent signings come before most trades. The Winter Meetings have become free agent signings central. No need to panic, besides the Sox have already made a major move, something the majority of teams cannot say.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 24, 2013 -> 05:20 PM) I'd call it extremely unlikely that they would trade Boozer and frankly it's probably a bad idea to take back someone else's bad contract to do so. Boozer can still be amnestied this offseason. Anyone they take back for Boozer cannot be amnestied (and any team that trades for Boozer also cannot amnesty him). To the Bulls he's almost an expiring contract in the sense that he won't be in the way next year if they don't want him to be. While they can amnesty him, trading him does cancel out having to pay him the difference between his contract and what another team is willing to pay him. There still is a financial obligation. It just isn't counted against the cap.

What's the big deal? The Sox added Javy as a 5th starter 8 years ago and were paying him $11 million.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 01:36 AM) Okay, we'll do an over/under. I think the White Sox payroll won't increase by more than $7.5 million before Opening Day. (In fact, if we trade Ramirez, it might realistically be even quite a bit lower than it is today.) Which side of that bet are you on? Now, of course, to put the moves in terms of a percentage...percentage of what? Dollars? Total moves? Impact of those moves? All of the 3B that would be upgrades are guys we would only control for 1 or 2 seasons like Headley or Sandoval. And Hahn's said repeatedly that he won't make those kind of short-term deals that hamper the team's ability to compete in 2015/2016/2017. You said the signing of Abreu was 80-85% of the White Sox offseason, and then mentioned about 6 other things that will or could be done. 80-85% would indicate at least 4/5ths of the White Sox offseason is complete, which is ridiculous. And I will take the over anyway. JR mentioned the money is there to add, and they were embarrassed by last season. It more than indicates they want nothing to do with a 90-100 loss season in 2014. So thinking they are dumping Alexei and playing rookies everywhere is unfounded.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 24, 2013 -> 07:12 PM) 80-85% of what's going to happen is already finished with the Abreu signing. That essentially leaves catching upgrades, 3B (and that's only going to happen via trade) and whether or not they trade Alexei Ramirez or wait until mid-season as the only mysteries. I think your math leaves a lot to be desired.

That was a turrble call

Helmet to helmet

Ball will be at the worst place it can be for the Bears offense. The opponents one.

I think that interference call was weak. First, I think the actual interference was questionable, and no way he catches that ball inbounds. He actually did catch the pass.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 24, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nln3TyhH2c...eature=youtu.be Pretty informative video of Blake Griffin's torn medial meniscus He has had 2 meniscus tears and a broken kneecap.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 04:29 PM) This is great f***ing news. While not great news, it is beyond awesome compared with what most of us thought.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) And the 6 FBS teams Iowa beat are a combined 22-42, including a staggering 8-33 conference record. They won the games they were supposed to win, although they should have beaten NIU. A bad INT in the last few minutes did them in. A big improvement over last season. Most prognosticators had them winning 4 or 5 games this year.