Dick Allen

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 08:07 AM) Thats not really the point. The point is will Prince be effective? Considering Prince has done nothing but destroy MLB pitching since the moment he stepped into the league, and has remained reasonably healthy throughout his stay, I dont see why it is a foregone conclusion that he will just fall off. Also, I sincerely doubt his dad had/sought out access to the same kind of health treatment that Prince currently does. While I doubt that Prince is a vegetarian like he says he is, I dont doubt that he keeps himself in better condition than his Dad did. His dad in slow motion was like watching the homer simpson softball episode. Prince has more girth than his dad, and whatever kind of condition he is in, eventually that weight on your joints takes a toll. I don't think its too crazy to look at his dad to try to determine when it might start going south for his son. It's not a guarantee, but it's a better tool than denial, and I would venture teams that were interested in signing him looked at it as well.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 08:16 AM) I agree with that, though it's hard to imagine any of these guys turning down the Bears. An opportunity to coach a team that has won 29 games in the past three seasons does not come around often. 90% of the time the open jobs are with teams that have won something like 15 games in the past three seasons. I know that, there are tons of factors, and if you are a top candidate for a job, and every year this happens it seems the teams looking for coaches interview from the same pool, you might as well hear what everyone has to say.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 11:31 PM) First of all you are acting like I think the Eagles are well run, Im not qualified to speak about their team, but I am pretty sure that their last NFL Championship was before 1985, so not exactly a team that I am looking to emulate. Secondly, if we want to hire people because of their "unique" story, well Bevell was a mormon and went on a mission. He also won the Rose Bowl for Wisconsin. Third, just because they are OC's doesnt mean that they are similar. That would be like saying if I had 2 DC finalists, 1 who ran 4-3 exclusively and 1 who ran 3-4 exclusively that they were similar. Sure they both coach defense, but they do it in an entirely different way. The argument was against Jake for saying that "Emery knows exactly what he wants". I dont care if he goes into the final interview with a DC, OC, ST, a NCAA HC etc. That isnt what I am saying. I am saying that Emery does not know exactly what he wants. I am not sure why you are even arguing, because you are now saying that "openness could be an asset." Well of course it could be, I never said it couldnt. I very specifically was saying that based on the interview process there is no way to logically conclude Emery knows exactly what he wants. No one is even arguing against that. I am not saying which interview process is better. It depends on the person. Which is why I used 2 examples of buying a car, because both examples are fine, but there is no way you can argue that in one of them I knew exactly what I wanted. He can know what he wants, but it's not like shopping for a car. First off, he obviously doesn't have the final say if the second interviews are with Emery's bosses. Secondly, there are other teams looking for coaches. Perhaps his #1 choice prefers to coach elsewhere or doesn't want to come to the Bears. Knowing exactly what he wants and getting it are two different things. You have to have plan B and plan C in place or you really might get smoked. One thing is guaranteed, whoever the do wind up picking, unless some negotiation goes terribly wrong and public, will be referred to as the guy who was their top choice.

Cecil played until he was 34 but was breaking down before that. I would imagine the same thing might happen to Prince. I don't think there are very many teams that would take on his contract. He still should be productive for a while, but I think he has 8 more years on his contract. Of course he could always get in some sort of shape. I'm still waiting for someone to go on the DL with the gout. I do know David Wells missed starts with the gout, but wasn't DL'd.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 07:32 AM) His dad only played until he was 34 and his last full season was when he was 32. Yeah, I mentioned this a while ago. He may have a couple of really productive seasons left, but his gene pool suggests he isn't going to be anywhere near worth his contract the last 4 or 5 years of that deal.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 07:21 PM) I approve of this message. You've gotta admit thou - this offseason has been the least active in a long long time. Last year was pretty inactive.

I know they are without 2 of their best players, but Northwestern is awful. I don't see how they are even close to a tournament team at full strength. I think this will probably be the end for Carmody.

12 years ago today, Kenny Williams awoke from his coma and traded for David Wells.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 08:36 PM) Does it really matter whose it is? A WS ring is a WS ring. I wouldn't care if it was a beer vendor's ring. It is covered up on the ring, but their name is on it. It makes a huge difference in value. I think Babe Ruth's 1927 WS ring went for over $250k. A lesser player or coach with the same ring would fetch far less.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 08:28 AM) They had a guy bring in a Braves title ring on PAWN STARS once, and unless it is owned by a player, they aren't worth as much as people thing. That guy asking $25,000 is off his rocker. If it is the same model the players received, it supposedly cost around $20k to make. It most likely is Moose Skowron's ring, so an extra 5k for the novelty and the name isn't that crazy. It is obviously up for negotiation, but someone with a lot of money might have to have it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 08:06 PM) Couldn't PD mean player development? We also got rings in the South Atlantic League when the team we worked for (August) won the championship in 2005. Mine says PR on the side of the ring....that was my job at the time, Director of Stadium Operations and Public Relations. From the description, one would think it has to be Moose Skowron's. I wonder how much it would be worth if it was Dave Wilder's.

QUOTE (bhawk99 @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 07:36 AM) Just another day and again no moves to improve this team by Rick Hahn. I guess he will just be happy to just finish ahead of the Indians, Twins and maybe the Royals. Some of Kenny's moves were questionable but at least he tried to make this team more competitive with the Tigers. Hey Rick, grow a set and do something just to let us know you are still alive. What was Kenny's big move last offseason?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 07:35 PM) Yeah, it's like a $17 million cap hit. It's not worth it. I think if they release him this year he would be around a $10 million hit for not being here.

QUOTE (SoxnGiants @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 06:42 PM) Some rumors out there that the Bears will release Peppers. He had a good season from what I could tell (I'm a Giants fan, so you'd know better than I would) but he is 33 this month and owed a lot of money next year so who knows. I think the cap hit difference between keeping him and releasing him is around $6-7 million. I think next year it becomes larger. I would expect him to stay .

He might be one some day, but if Moustakis and his below .700 career OPS is a star, the White Sox are loaded with them.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 12:06 PM) Why do you turn things personal when someone disagrees with you? Wow, didn't see this coming. Obviously, everything about the White Sox bothers you. I don't know why you would continue to spend so much time complaining about something you can do nothing about. The funny thing is you go to games, giving Reinsdorf your money, therefore you actually are one of the people you complain about.

Give him a break about the Royals. He's right. Since 1995 they did win 83 games one year, and only lost 90 or more 12 times. Why the White Sox or any franchise for that matter wouldn't want to be like the Royals is beyond me.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:46 AM) This is media brainwashing, particularly on the SCORE. "The Sox fan doesn't appreciate all that Chairman Reinsdorf has given him." You obviously don't. The team was in the top 2 or 3 in wins for about a 15 year stretch. I'll post it again, if it really is so miserable for you, find a new hobby. You actually might become happy.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) The A's have a great future ahead of them though Not really. If their young guys play well they won't be able to afford them and will start the cycle all over again. There really is very little chance for sustained success as long as they remain in Oakland.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:36 AM) I say it's time for a new owner then. One that has a better plan for "sustained success" given the constraints of the revenue streams or an owner that has deeper pockets. One that is willing to take a bath every year so you might be happy? Good luck with that. White Sox fans wouldn't go to games because the seats were blue. Then they wouldn't go because the team wasn't winning enough, then they get their green seats and have a team in first place and tickets are too expensive. 2013 they will have affordable tickets, green seats and a team that should be decent. We will see what happens

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:29 AM) Right, but Sox fans are so wrapped up in attendance that they blame their fellow fan for not going. Attendance is what it is, no excuse not to win. More people should have come out to the park last year. The fact is if more people came, the team would be in a position to do more financially and take some more risks. If people can't afford to go to games or don't have the time, so be it, but if you really think teams like the ones you want to be the White Sox to be like have White Sox-like revenue, that they still would bring in all these high priced players, you are just wrong. Clearly they haven't won enough, I agree with you there. But I don't think it's the size of the payroll, which is ownership's responsibility, that has caused it.

Baseball is a lot different than the NFL and NBA. You can't just tank it a couple of years and have all your problems solved through the draft. Players take longer to develop and contribute and the bust rate is much higher.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:24 AM) I think it's strange that Sox fans don't demand more from ownership. Instead they blame their fellow fan. It must be they are still feeling the effect of being beaten over the head by the media with "attendance problems." If fans aren't showing up, isn't it a sign fans are demanding more out of ownership? A team that wins 85 games and is in first place most of the year doesn't draw 2 million. To me, ownership isn't getting the benefit of the doubt.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) The Royals have done some great things this off season to go along with their great young stars. Yeah, they are a real model franchise. I wish the Sox could be more like them. That would be really fun.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 08:44 AM) They say his greatest strength is coaching the fundamentals of quarterbacking, and luckily those don't really change much. Rich Gannon says that he is the type of guy that multi-tasks very well, ie coaching the QB and calling plays. Either way, if we hire an OC that calls the plays...then I don't see how game speed is an issue. It may not be anyway. I don't think that will be an issue. It isn't like the guy has been sitting on a deserted island the last 5 years. If it's accurate, certainly not a thrilling hire, though. Emery seems prepared, and does go through all the work, whether that translates into making the correct decisions, only the results in the future will determine that. He has probably interviewed more guys than any other team this offseason.