Dick Allen

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2012 -> 04:56 PM) You're honestly telling me with this post that you feel Nestor Molina is ready to face a major league line-up? Maybe the Twins, sure. You can even start Zach Stewart against them these days and get a victory. I mean REAL line-ups. No, but you make the Cleveland Indians out to be the '27 Yankees. They beat Yu Darvish..............why bother showing up?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2012 -> 04:46 PM) Molina against the Indians' LH hitters? Haha. They just tore up Yu Darvish. I don't understand why the Sox are even bothering going to Cleveland. Take the forfeits and move on. Any team featuring Shelley Duncan is really too scary to play.

With as much s*** guys like Beckham and Morel get, its amazing the free pass Alexei Ramirez gets on this board. I do realize he is a notoriously slow starter, and have noted this year's start is hardly any different from all his others, but these games do count. The guy has a .217 OBP. Its time Alexei does something differently in the offseason in an attempt to actually start hitting before the season is 20% over.

Swung at ball 4.

Hawk knowing his personnel reminding Stone the SB keeps them out of the ground ball DP

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 6, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) I think he tips that screwball. He may be but even if he isn't, its pretty straight.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 6, 2012 -> 03:01 PM) He just needs to be a starting pitcher. We have no need for him in our bullpen anymore. Before he's ruined as a prospect, get him ready to be a starter I don't see how that is going to make him tougher to hit. He wasn't considered much of a prospect before a nice spring training. He's showing everyone why.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2012 -> 02:59 PM) Please let this be it for the Santiago in the majors experiment. Not sure what else anyone needs to see. I don't get it either. When he gets hit, which is often, he gets hit hard.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 6, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) they don't feel he can without risking injury. my feeling is that if you have to build up arm strength by risking injury, then so be it. if you lose a year Chris Sale to TJ surgery with the benefit having 10 more years of dominant post-TJ pitching, you take it. Every time. I don't know where you get your information that TJ surgery is no big deal and everyone comes back stronger for it and isn't subject to the same injury occurring again. See Liriano, Francisco for one. If it were true, teams would have pitchers undergo the surgery the day they were signed.

Beckham is 2 feet and a 15 mph breeze yesterday from having as many HR as Pujols and Fielder combined.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 6, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) he's obviously a closer. what the f*** is the point in having two ace closers? You posted yesterday that closers aren't valuable. Now they are wasting Reed not using him as a closer.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 6, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) the white sox are looking at sale as their permanent closer. permanent. not starting. he spent this WHOLE OFFSEASON preparing to start, and the sox brass still wasn't ok with it. what's he gonna have to do to change their mind? There's nothing he CAN do. This is his new job. He's never starting again. If he DID, we'd be having a Joba Chamberlain situation, and we know what happened there. I agree with this.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2012 -> 09:09 AM) And what is the average OPS in MLB this year? 2011? It's down from 730 to 720, so having the same OPS as last year would mathematically be an improvement according to the laws of statistical analysis. Let me guess, it's lower this year. We can argue the definition of improvement, but how can you account for an offense who didn't add anything significant (and actually lost one of its best OPS performers in Quentin) and has probably the weakest bench offensively in the majors leagues outperforming the 2011 version? Last year was just a "fluke" year or unlucky, right? Some of the hitters like Dunn are simply returning to their historical norms and last year was an outlier? Well, then the same arguments can be made for Heyward, who was commonly pronounced one of the future superstars of the game by every scout in the country. I don't know if you're trying to call me out or what, but the timing of this is peculiar. The Sox are at where they were at last year offensively, and Atlanta leads MLB in runs scored. It would be kind of hard to make my viewpoint look foolish at the moment.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 6, 2012 -> 09:47 AM) we have no minor league system from which to cultivate two starting pitchers we have no minor league system from which to deal for two starting pitchers we have no major league pieces with friendly enough contracts to deal for two starting pitchers we have absolutely zero track record on drafting decent players, and even if we did, that would be a couple years off. the reality is, we're not going to be competitive for the next couple years. and that bums me out. Now you have a lot of extra time during the summer to do something you might enjoy.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) Quentin for Carter Definitely. If that trade wasn't made, the Sox probably don't win the division in 2008, A whole lot might have been different. Ozzie might have been gone sooner, Rick Hahn might be the GM.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 6, 2012 -> 09:52 AM) Obviously we will never know the truth, but to me it seems pretty obvious that Swisher didnt fit in and it carried over to the field. That is a personality scouting issue. When Swisher was acquired i really dont remember many people complaining about the price When they acquired Swisher and Cabrera, they made it a point to say they needed some vocal guys in the clubhouse. There have been plenty of posts through the years with posters being pissed at Konerko for not being a loudmouth. It was ironic, that even though that team won the division, KW couldn't get rid of those 2 fast enough.

The White Sox currently have the same team OPS they had as a team for the 2011 season. Getting rid of Greg Walker hasn't provided the improvement most thought. The Cubs spent a boatload of money bringing in a former Soxtalk favorite, Rudy Jaramillo. Their players who couldn't hit, still can't hit.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:16 PM) The biggest mistake is not getting too greedy and knowing when the right time to take a profit is...or holding onto stocks too long in hopes they will eventually rebound in value because their price was ONCE $124 per share, so it has to return to that point (false) logically. So you want to base the entire roster not on how they stack up against their rivals, not if they have a chance to do some serious winning, but by what they are worth to other teams? You want the White Sox to be the farm system to the major leagues. Reed better not be too effective because you immediately would have to trade him for someone who is not at peak value.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:08 PM) Glad you're not my stockbroker. I can assure you the biggest mistake discount traders make is not admitting their mistakes and getting out of winning trades while hanging on to the losers. Getting rid of your best players and keeping the not so good ones will get you the same result.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) Name Reed the closer? lol, Sale is the closer. But good for Reed, glad he got it done. Hector started the inning because of the lefties, they didn't want Reed's first save opp to be against LHB. I praise RV for knowing when to pull Hector though. and WTF Gordon? I can't even think of a reason he didn't cover second base. That changed everything. Anyways, very important win. THIS SEASON IS NOT OVER I don't know what he was thinking either. Had he been at seond, Rayburn most likely would have stayed at first. However, if Rayburn was thinking second all the time, with where Fukudome fielded the ball and threw to Ramirez he would have got to second very easily.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) I must have misunderstood Stone then. Stone did mention cutting down his repitoire (sp) should lessen the tax on his elbow. So you didn't misunderstand.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 5, 2012 -> 05:56 PM) Add Jones and Santiago to that mix and it's like a Pinella wet dream Jones is a right handed Matt Thornton if he throws enough strikes. I'm not very high on Santiago myself, but if he's the 5th or 6th option, we have seen worse.

Nice to win one like that after losing one the same way last night.

Sale and Reed could be the anchors for the best bullpen in baseball for years.

Spring Training phenoms shouldn't be closers, except maybe in AAA.