Dick Allen

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 2, 2011 -> 06:29 PM) White Sox season is over He wants a fire sale. I get a kick out of Rosenbloom, but you can't say everyone sucks so the Sox can trade them for useful players. Buehrle and Ohman for Rasmus? Right there that tells you how tuned in he is.

QUOTE (soxfan72 @ May 1, 2011 -> 09:18 PM) I only disagree on a few points. Don Cooper stays. Harold Baines stays. Cox stays. KW and the rest have to go. Hope for Change in 2011. Why does Cooper stay? The White Sox have given up more runs than every other AL team. Cooper went out to talk to Floyd today with the bases loaded, the next pitch, all the runners scored. Maybe he told him the Sox were all in this year, and he thought let all the runners in. There are a lot more pitchers that struggled with the Sox while being coached by Cooper who went on and were productive elsewhere, than hitters coached by Walker having success elsewhere after they had left. Its not just Soxtalk where Walker couldn't possibly a bigger idiot and Cooper is some sort of pitching coach God. Its everywhere, but if you really look closely the results suggest Walker has done more with less, if you base the entire success or failure on a hitting or pitching coach. People blame the streakiness on Walker, but that's how a lot of players, most players really, go. Although I did see a stat on the board for Mark Teahen on Friday. He has either hit 10 or 11 homers total in April, May, June, July , August and September,in his career. Not too many are like that. Could you imagine if the Sox traded Brian Anderson in 2006 and he hit like Daniel Hudson pitched for AZ in 2010? People wouldn't blame KW, it would be all be on Walker. No one ever mentions Cooper when Hudson's ERA dropped 4 or 5 runs. In all honesty I don't think Cooper should be fired, or Walker for that matter. I would just like the people who blame Walker for every bad ball the Sox swing at also blame Cooper for some of the crap the pitchers throw up there. It never happens. Be consistent. If Chris Sale gives up a homer, if its not Cooper's fault, don't blame Walker when Alex Rios grounds out weakly to SS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) The team is hitting like .240 with an era of about 4.50 IIRC. 10th in the AL in batting average, 9th in runs scored, 12th in ERA and dead last in runs allowed. You can't blame Peavy's injury. His replacement has been nails. If Walker is so terrible, Don Cooper isn't exactly the pitching guru he's made out to be. The Sox will be awful if they allow more runs than all the other teams. If hitters swinging at bad pitches is the hitting coach's fault, then pitchers making bad pitches shoud be the pitching coach's fault.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 1, 2011 -> 07:46 PM) That's a very good point, but you can't ignore one problem because you have another. The team can work on more than one problem at a time. I just don't understand the constant pounding Walker takes not only here but just about everywhere and most years, including this one, the White Sox hitters are ranked higher than the White Sox pitchers even though on average, a lot more money is spent on the pitchers. Cooper gets no crap at all, in fact, just the opposite.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:42 PM) I'm glad that people are finally getting this, but why has it taken so long? Honestly, people have been saying this same thing for years in regards to Walker. Is six years after a World Series title the exact cutoff point to be OK with firing somebody if only to make a statement? In the last 4 games the Sox would have had to have scored at least 13,11,7 and 7 to win. You can blame the hitting coach all you want, but firing Greg Walker isn't going to make the Sox record better.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) 22k today???? MERCY Disaster is upon us. I wonder last time they had that low of attendance on a weekend day with nice weather. Its about 15k more than they deserve.

QUOTE (bobryansson @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) This is not Ozzie's fault. You're right. Losing is never Ozzie's fault. Winning is all because of Ozzie. If he gets canned he can go on tour with Charlie Sheen.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:41 PM) I also love how Hawk said Rios crushed his homer last night...when it made it out by about 15 feet down the line. That was absolutely the perfect spot to use Dunn, as it's very unlikely you get another chance to tie it. Buck Showalter always makes Ozzie look like a little b**** though. Never mind it was a solo homer in the 9th in a 6-1 game. They weren't exactly trying to paint corners.

QUOTE (robinventura23 @ May 1, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) Wow, you actually want Dunn to bat? Wieters could use a fanning off I guess. Its a better option than Rios. The Sox are playing poorly as it is. Not to put your biggest guns out there when you have a shot at a tie or making the game much closer is silly. Teahen was a better option than Rios if Ozzie thinks Dunn needs a rest from playing in the field last night.

How about a pinch hitter next time Rios comes up with runners on and the Sox desperate for runs? How I wish KW got rid of him when he could.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Is that true? Not really. Someone did a study of the ERA's from each spot and at least in 2006 the #4 spot was 5.10 but that included every game so injuries and rest and September call ups are added, so its not a #4 guy who lasts the entire season its a #4 guy that also includes starts from a #6-#15 or so guy from which the numbers are taken. If you took the regular #4 guys and just averaged out their ERA's they would be a little lower.

QUOTE (Chisoxrd5 @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:35 PM) He's just dogging it out there, he's better than that. Embarrassing. It does appear his effort is less than stellar which was the exact knock against him in Toronto. Maybe its his toe injury, or maybe its the fact that he is very graceful and those guys look like they give less effort than they do, but hopefully he didn't think he shut up his critics with his first half last year, because he's been awful ever since.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) At this point, it's pretty clear that Gavin Floyd is never going to be better than a 4th starter with occasional flashes of brilliance. Still has a lot of trade value though. For his career, his ERA in April and May is about 6.00, so this shouldn't be a surprise. He'll be Cy Young in June and most of July.

Hey look, all the runners are in. They are all in.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:25 PM) Cause he fixed Humber! But Walker fixed Lillibridge. Its hard for me to fathom Ozzie not playing Dunn today.

Hawk must hate pitchtrax when it shows the umpire to be correct.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:22 PM) Someone needs to get fired. My prediction is Walker on Thursday. Why not Cooper? The vaunted starting rotation had the 8th best ERA in the AL last year, and are 9th this year.

Get Rios out of the line up.

Felix Pie's career stats and Alex Rios' White Sox stats are almost identical. How much do the Sox owe Rios?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 02:17 PM) This Orioles lineup is pretty damn good. Throwing anything straight to Reynolds is really foolish. I agree.

I will say Hawk really hasn't blamed umpires for any losses this year, at least in the games I've watched.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ May 1, 2011 -> 10:25 AM) Thornton sure didn't have any luck whatsoever yesterday, but you can appreciate the boos, everyone on this teams deserves an earful, and I mean everyone. If they're not strong enough to take the boos and raise their level of intensity and competitive juices (which appears to be at about a 2 on a scale of 1-10 right now) then they all should move back in with their parents and cry to their mommies. Someone needs to pay for Gordo's slow start, his mechanics are awful. If they just let him swing like he did before Walker got in his head he'd probably be leading the league in doubles and hitting .320 right now. Greg Walker didn't teach Beckham how to hit. If it were so easy or there were guys who made .194 hitters .330 hitters, hitting coaches would be the highest paid employees on baseball teams. You are being beyond naive if you think Greg Walker is costing Gordon Beckham 130 points of batting average.

Beckham will be fine, as to the rest, its a good thing the majority of Soxtalk posters aren't GMs. You would be forced to have a payroll of about $25 million, because all all the money you would be paying players you released and other personnel you fired. As has always been said, the baseball season is a marathon. There is so much that can and will happen by the end of the year. Some you are all calling bums still will be bums, some you are calling bums you'll want KW to sign to a long extension by the end of the year. I don't find anything wrong with being upset. If you're a fan of this team, you should be upset, but realize while maybe this team isn't going to be good enough to win the WS, we don't know that yet, there is even a smaller chance they are as bad as they have shown. Matt Thornton broke 2 bats and struck a guy out yesterday and the result was 1 run in runners on 2nd and 3rd with no out. He got booed off the field. s*** happens. Unfortunately for us, its happening almost everyday to the White Sox.

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 10:02 PM) All the haters have now been told for a long time that we are overreacting, that the players like playing for him (which i dont believe) or that because he's like a son to Jerry that he is not going anywhere, but I would like to hear some legitimate arguments as to why he deserves to keep his job. The negatives are obvious, what are the affirmative arguments? They are 0-2 without him. Don't peg me an Ozzie guy, but the reason they should keep him is because IMO they are either too short-sided or the timing isn't going to be right to bring in someone better. If the replacement is Cora or Bell, or Cooper, there really is no reason to change.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 10:34 PM) Joey Cora for Manager! Joey was the manager the past 2 games. He had AJP and Teahan hit against lefties down one late.