Dick Allen

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 08:51 PM) He was the only one I saw report that the Chairman had joined the negotiations last night. You must of missed Heyman on Sunday. Cowley said Konerko to the Cubs, Konerko to the Rangers, he didn't really mention the DBAcks offer. He said the snag was Konerko insisted on 15 million a year. It turns out it wasn't the money it was the length. He also said no Kerry Wood even if Konerko goes, then backtracked. He said AJ was heading north to Toronto, then the Sox signed him and he edited that out of his story. AJ was on MLB Network and said he was going to sign with the Dodgers. Seriously, Cowley is a goof. If you throw everything out there, one of them has to be right. Don't give him credit for saying JR was getting involved. Everyone knew JR was getting involved.

Paulie needs 90 homers to tie the Big Hurt as the White Sox all time home run king.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 03:36 PM) I'm pretty sure we were trying to sign him as the closer. You could also make the claim the Sox tendered Pena a contract instead of giving Putz an extra 2.5 million. I'm very happy Paulie is the Sox 1B instead of Pena for $2 million less in 2011. It will be interesting to see what DLee ultimately signs for. Paulie is probably now overpaid, but so are a lot of guys and just about everyone who has signed so far. You rarely get a bargain unless you wait them out. In the future though, this signing isn't on KW. Its on JR.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) The extra $2.5 million this year probably just cost them JJ Putz. Doubt it. Putz was pretty good, but he signed for a couple of years, and what makes him such a sure thing? The thing that does concern me is KW's plan A seemed to come to fruition this season. In years past, and in retrospect, his plan Bs and Cs and Ds have seemed to work better than his plan As.

Whatever happened to Cowley's claim Konerko needed at least $15 million a year?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) So there is no guarantee about DLee, but there is about PK? There's no guarantee about anyone, but you said you would sign Konerko for 2 years $20 million. This is an extra year, so worry about that 3 years from now, and I really doubt the extra $2.5 million they will be paying him more per year than what you previously said you would be comfortable with, is really going to cost them anything special. Actually, they are paying him $12 million the next 2 years and $6.5 million the 3rd year, with a $1million payment for 7 years after that. Considering .196 hitting strikeout machines with OPS less than .750 can get $10 million for 1 year, its a good deal.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 02:07 PM) An .888 OPS in the 2nd half of that down year. If your basing a lot of things on the second half of a year, I'm surprised you don't want the Sox to rid themselves of Alex Rios, considering his good year in 2010 with a second half OPS of .686.

At first you would be shocked the Sox gave Paulie 3 years. I love Paulie but this is an overpay, however if Carlos Pena can get $10 million after the year he had its a bargain.

Cowley has himself covered. He has Paulie to the Cubs to the Rangers to the DBacks, back to the Sox, and Kerry Wood too expensive even if they don't sign Paulie to possibly Kerry Wood if Paulie goes elsewhere because the sources just assumed Paulie would re-sign. When this situation comes to an end he will be proud of himself and go slam all the other reporting.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) "Kid K'' is simply "Kid $'' Next. Chairman wants Konerko. What Jerry wants, Jerry gets. - Cowley in reference to Kerry Wood. Cowley says, Wood rumors blown out of proportions, Sox think Wood too expensive even if they don't get Paulie. Joe must have got that from his sources. I could have sworn JR wanted LeBron, Wade, Bosh.........Putz at a cheaper rate.............

I'm wondering if the KW/Ozzie feud has something to do with Konerko perhaps wanting to play elsewhere. It seems likestrange timing that they supposedly kissed and made up AGAIN right before the winter meetings and the negotiations to bring him back.

BTW, the word is Kerry Wood wants $9 million a year. If he's you're plan B, its time to move to C if that doesn't drastically reduce.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:45 PM) As long as it isn't to close, and the money is less than half of his last contract, I can handle that. He's been asking for a lot of money. Even the Yankees find it excessive. Of course that's usually how negotiations begin. You would have to figure he's eventually going to get at least as much as Putz, which makes the Sox supposed interest curious.

Whoever goes 7 years at over $20 million per for Cliff Lee will regret it a lot sooner after he signed the contract than when it will expire.

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:13 PM) McCourt She gets $7.5 million a year also.

QUOTE (Real @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:11 PM) We'd have Putz if he was finding money everywhere. Not necessarily. Supposedly they are interested in Wood. If true, he would be more expensive than Putz at least for 2011.

QUOTE (Real @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:06 PM) Reinsdorf is gonna give Konerko at least 13m/year, which will cripple our payroll as far as not being able to add any other pieces where we obviously need to fill holes Sucks that D.Lee is even older that Konerko, though I bet we could sign him to a two year deal and have Viciedo waiting I don't know that it will cripple payroll. JR seems to be finding money everywhere the last year and a half. Maybe he's remembering his hiding places. If this "all in" is the theme of the 2011 White Sox, $2-3 million isn't going to make much of a difference.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:57 AM) If this thing drags on more, I guarantee you'll see a see on mlbrumors how D. Lee and the White Sox have started contract negotiations. Konerko's hand needs to be forced. Why is it dragging on? How many of the top free agents have signed?

Wow, Jaime McCord gets about $7.5 million a year in spousal support.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:27 AM) I'm not sure why people are so impatient on this Konerko thing, it's not even mid-December yet. Nobody's mentioned Derek Lee's name but us so it's not like Plan B is in danger of getting away just yet. If it wasn't time to give up on Konerko a few weeks ago, it's not time now. I agree. Its not like all the other options are flying off the board.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:26 AM) The thing is Rangers and Dbacks don't have money to give Paulie 15, heck even 12 million a year. So unless he is willing to reconsider, he will be playing in Baltimore and not spending time with his family. And you can't blame him if he takes the money. Its a few more million to leave Jr. when he dies.

The DBacks do have some talent on their roster. They were the team with nice draft picks and tons of prospects. Basically, they are what a lot of Soxtalk wants the Sox to be.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:20 AM) Someone made a great point on the radio. If this was the offseason after 2009, D. Lee would be getting the big multi-year deal and Konerko would be the one who'd be lucky to get a multi-year deal for 6-8 million. And Jeter would have gotten the ARod treatment. Timing is a huge part of making huge money. Someone mentioned earlier that JR wouldn't necessarily spend the money he is prepared to spend on Paulie on others. Normally, I would say this is very true, but because you had a couple of guys defer money, I would imagine they will probably spend it this offseaon if Paulie doesn't come back.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 11:15 AM) We would totally lead the league in simulated wins. They could give away towels in honor of Wood and Prior with the towel drill.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 10:06 AM) Wait, are you telling me that Paul Konerko's family doesn't live in Chicago? (immediate, wife and children) I don't believe that. I believe the only member of the 2010 White Sox to live in the Chicago area during the offseason was Jenks. Paulie lives in AZ, supposedly not more than a block or 2 away from JR's residence there. Playing in AZ would give him more family time. As his kids get to school age, they can't be coming to Chicago in April and May or September. Its understandable why he would take less money to play for the DBacks.