Dick Allen

I wouldn't expect much, but maybe he could be something decent someday. They need to put him on a plane to Charlotte with Logan and Wassermann.

I've searched everywhere for something that says Philadelphia would pick up part of the vested option. The only thing I have seen so far is Thome had $46 million left on his contract when the Sox acquired him and Philadelphia was sending $22 million to the Sox. I think the Sox will be on the hook for the full option if it vests, which it should if he doesn't get hurt.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 2, 2008 -> 03:08 PM) 4 innings, 12 hits, 6 ER, 1K Thats after a 3-0 lead. We can only hope Contreras' bullpen sessions weren't a tease.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 2, 2008 -> 03:06 PM) Wow, my brother said the same thing that he thought he might be sick. To me, after he gave up the first hit, it looked like he just ran a 100 meter dash.

Buerhle has seemed out of breath since the first.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 2, 2008 -> 03:04 PM) I've seen quite enough of Buehrle for the day. This is where a dope like Masset has value.

Nick Swisher drunk could be the greatest reality series of all time.

QUOTE (Shamrock4Life @ Aug 2, 2008 -> 11:11 AM) and any player already through waivers, say a player who was out of options, sent down, and called back up, has cleared waivers. Ala Dewayne Wise.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) Does the waiver wire go in inverse order of last year's full standings or the current season's standings? Its current now. I think at the beginning of the season for a certain period, it goes based on the previous season's finish.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 04:24 PM) But if the White Sox claim somebody, they have, I believe, 48 hours to work on a deal. No play has to "clear" waivers. But for them to claim someone, all the teams below them would have to pass. If any of them claimed the player, they could either work out a trade, assign the contract to the team making the claim, or revoke the waiver, and the White Sox or any team above the team making the initial claim would be SOL if they were after that player.

If $ wasn't a factor, ARod who when its all said and done, will go down as the greatest ever.

I believe Scott Linebrink is the key to the rest of the White Sox season. Although Carrasco has performed well for the most part, its just a matter of time for him. Linebrink getting back and regaining his earlier form could project the bullpen back to its shutdown level they had earlier. They all had their roles and performed them superbly. Missing a piece whether it was Jenks or then Linebrink, I think has affected the bullpen greatly and taken them all out of their roles just enough to throw them off a bit. If they could at least get close to the level they were at a couple months ago, it would leave Minnesota in their dust IMO. If someone told me in spring training that both Mark Buerhle and Javy Vazquez would be below .500 on August 2nd, 4th or 5th place would have been where I would have expected this team to be. Obviously Danks and Floyd have pitched beyond expectations, but the bullpen is what made this team a contender.

Looks like you're not too popular on the other board.

QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) So what is Griffey's # history...hasn't he always been 24? 24,30,3

He'll be Dirty Thirty one more night and Griffey will wear 17 tonight. The big switch will be tomorrow. Maybe Nick is hedging his bets waiting to see if Jr. can stay healthy.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 01:41 PM) Let the Griffey era begin. Which will last about two months. Hopefully, 3 months, but I would think the over/under is less than 2, especially if he plays CF regularly.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 02:14 PM) just not awesome for the authentic $200 Swisher #30 Jersey I purchased in May I'm sure he will be back to 30 next season as long as he's still a White Sox unless he goes on a tear and believes the number switch helped him.

In other news, it looks like Dirty Thirty is no more. He has given 30 to Griffey and will wear #1, which not so coincidentally is his position in many posters' hearts.

Griffey will go 4-4 with at least 2 grand slams. Vazquez will get lit up, but Griffey will make a game saving catch deep in CF with 2 out in the 9th running up the wall and then throwing the ball into the fountains with joy, and a White Sox victory.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 06:49 AM) You'd be right. Swisher is pretty awful with 2 strikes on him. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=5937 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3747 What is really unbelievable is his numbers after a first pitch strike. .168 avg. .225 slugging pct. If you throw a first pitch strike, and I believe he's only put 13 first pitches into play this season, he basically hits like a run of the mill NL pitcher.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) It was already pretty low. Even if Fields does have a long career(which I suppose could be in question) he is going to have a ton of games with 3+ K's. It's just the hitter he is. 9 strikeouts in 20 AB. His strikeout rate continues to climb. There's something about football players playing baseball. A couple have worked out, but most of them never seem to reach the potential projected.

The Sox already blew a 4 run lead this series. They need to cinch it up and hunker down.

KW must not think CF is a defensive position which is odd considering his pursuit of Torii Hunter. Everett, Mackowiak, Swisher, now a 38 year old Griffey. That's not too much leather. Swisher is a below average CF, but at this stage he is a much better defensive CF than Griffey. I'm a big proponent of excellent up the middle defense.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:48 PM) My favorite Sox to ever wear #17.... Carlos May was born May 17, 1948. The back of his White Sox uniform read "May 17." Just a little trivia... He also hit a home run opening day one year, but failed to touch homeplate. He got credit for a triple and was called out.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) I think it's presumptive to say that Thome will have nary an injury the rest of this year. And I prefer Griffey to Konerko for his replacement if that were to happen. You very easily raise the POSSIBILITY that Richar might turn into a decent pro, but you dont even acknowledge the MORE than possibility that Thome will have aches and pains throughout the rest of this year and may have to sit a bit. With superstar-mentality guys, you have to factor in that they're not going to go all out for a middling team. My hunch is that's the case with Griffey. When motivated, and looking for a ring, I wouldnt be surprised to see an upward spike in production. I'm as scared as anyone about him being in CF. I think in the end, however, they'll have a role for him that isnt that. I would think Griffey has greater odds of being injured than any other White Sox.