Dick Allen

QUOTE (Felix @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Juan Uribe: .234/.284/.394 Nick Swisher: .226/.347/.395 HUGE difference. Not really. Its some walks. Swisher has 6 career steals and bats 7th. Walks with your 8th and 9th batters coming up aren't as valuable as walks with the best hitters coming up, plus he plays an offensive position. His slugging pct. is virtually identical to Uribe's last year. His average is about the same. He strikes out even more. The board wanted Uribe released. The board obviously loves walks and wants Swisher to play 1B.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 11:44 AM) he gets on base Then how do you explain the Thome hate when his OBP was about at Swisher's level or above? He was hitting with more power, but was washed up, the worst hitter in baseball, blah, blah, blah. I'd rather see Swisher actually not strike out with runners on and maybe get a hit, than get a walk with 2 out and nobody on. The thread when the Sox got him was gushing about how he'd hit close to 40 homers, get on at about a .400 clip, hit .275. He's not close.

Nick Swisher's free pass as others continued to get slammed is beyond ridiculous. Consider this: Last year Juan Uribe hit .234 with 20 homers and 68 rbi in 513 AB as a SS with a 112 K , not considered an offensive position. This year Nick Swisher is hitting .226 and at his current pace will have 20 homers and 72 rbi with 132 ks with 513 official AB. He plays CF an offensive position and most want him to play 1B and even more offensive position. Offensively,he basically is Juan Uribe last year, a guy everyone wanted non-tendered or released, with more walks, and a few more k's and more beard styles. Defensively, at least in CF, he leaves a lot to be desired. As Steve Stone said, he is not a centerfielder. That's not his fault but offensively c'mon. If Paulie is killing the team as I read over and over, what is this guy doing? Its time he gets scrutunized a bit, especially considering this is supposedly the biggest roadtrip of the season so far, and Dirty Thirty is still looking for his first hit.

I have never been to a Bennigan's. I was walking by the one on Michigan Ave. the other day wondering if I would ever eat at one. The wondering is ova.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:52 AM) Other than Carl Everett has Kenny ever made a big trade at the deadline? Contreras which didn't seem huge at the time turned out to be very big. Before KW, Schueler got Charles Johnson in 2000. He played huge those last couple of months.

Tonight is the night for Paulie. He's my pick to click. I always win the pick to click.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:23 AM) THere's nothing good to be said about Paulie. At this point, he's not a Major League Baseball player, and he's killed us since coming off the DL. Considering Swisher doesn't have a hit on this roadtrip, maybe Paulie's replacement if he needs one, should come from somewhere else.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 07:05 AM) During the game Hawk was giving game scores and he says "Detroit was shut out by the Indians 5-0, the Tigers have been shutout 11 times this year", and I thought to myself "Hawk, the Sox are on the verge of being shutout themselves, you shouldnt be talking like that." But the Sox shouldn't have been shutout. JD hit a ball 5 feet foul and it was called a homerun. The umpires, at least according to Hawk, have no reason to overturn the call, except of course if it was hit by someone on the opposition. I love Hawk, but his umpire criticism hit a new low last night with that one. The one thing I don't understand about the umpires getting together though is if the home plate umpire clearly saw the ball was foul, if they are so concerned with getting it right, why doesn't he say something before he is asked? Its like he knows it was fould but will keep quiet unless the other manager comes out and has a stroke and they call a meeting. Doesn't sound like the umpires just want to get the call right to me.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 01:44 AM) And you wanna know another thing I'm sick of that doesn't help....I'm sick of Ozzie and Hawk and everybody pretty much sucking the Twins Twinkies. Every time these two open their mouth you'd think they were the reincarnation of the 36 Yankees or something. ENOUGH ALREADY. You don't think when your own team continues to hear this s*** it doesn't almost give them a defeatist attitude?!? Hell...no wonder the Sox always play like s*** against the Twins...it's because they're getting it ingrained the the TWINS ARE THE GREATEST! F@#$ THAT!!! I totally agree with this. Its one thing to respect your opponent, its another thing to slobber all over them. The Twins have a big mental edge against the White Sox everytime they play in Minnesota because of what you posted. I'm sick of hearing how great the Twins are. Hawk is a huge homer, but everytime the Sox play Minnesota, you would think the Sox were at least 15 games behind them. Ozzie does the same thing. I think it works its way down to the team.

At least they didn't waste a great pitching or offensive performance. Come back tomorrow and beat them.

QUOTE (stretchstretch @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 09:46 PM) c'mon Paulie, break a leg, no I mean literally break a leg so Swisher can replace you full time............ That's real nice. Karma will get you. What is it about Swisher's .226 average that excites you so much? Its only .013 better than Paulie. That's a little more than 1 more hit per 100 AB.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 07:35 PM) I can't argue with the numbers, but it just seems that Nick has way better ABs than Paulie, even when he makes outs, which is obviously more often than not. We are also better defensively with Swish at 1B and BA in center. March/April, May and July, every month except his outstanding June, Swisher is hitting .195. I don't care how many pitches he sees, he needs to get hits. .195. That's not a guy who should be playing everyday. All I ask is if anyone is going to constantly rail on Konerko, at least have the decency to say KW needs to get a firstbaseman, because Swisher shouldn't be playing either.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) Konerko has 2 walks since coming off the DL. Swish has 15 in that time frame. Wow, a guy with 6 career steals whose biggest offensive weapon is a walk. Face it, if Konerko or Thome performed the exact same way Swisher has, the vultures would be calling for their releases. For some reason Swisher gets a huge pass on this board, just like Vazquez, although the tide is starting to turn on Javy.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 08:29 PM) Ah, so since swish moved from 1B he is in a slump.....Good to know the team is better with Kong out, thanks for verifying that. If you really believe Swisher would have continued his hot streak if he remained at first base, you are crazier than I thought. He's 0 for his last 15 with 6 k's. If Konerko shouldn't be playing, neither should he. Sorry to say, he's been a huge dissappointment.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 07:23 PM) Swish is still hitting and getting on base better than Konerko. Since Konerko has come off the DL, Paulie is hitting a pathetic .218 coming into tonight. Swisher, during that same time period, is hitting .180. Yeah, he' still hitting alright.

QUOTE (earthshiner @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 08:21 PM) and konerko is doing his best to make sure we blow this lead. Right. All Paulie's fault.

If Konerko needs to be benched, Swisher should be sitting next to him. Dirty thirty has been horrible. His glove has gone farther than any fair ball he's hit tonight.

I still can't believe Hawk was pissed that homer call was reversed. It wasn't even close.

All for naught. From ESPN.COM: -- Pitcher A.J. Burnett will be sticking with the Toronto Blue Jays. Burnett Asked whether the Blue Jays would deal Burnett before Thursday's trade deadline, general manager J.P. Ricciardi was emphatic. "He's not going anywhere," Ricciardi said before Burnett pitched Monday against Tampa Bay.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) Anyone who would have any reservations whatsoever about this deal should watch this: http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/media/vide...90&c_id=tor ^That's the kind of arm we'd be getting. Obviously you never know what can happen, and we might get AJ just to have his arm fall off two days later, but assuming we picked him up and made it to the playoffs, this is a guy that is capable of shutting any team down on any given night and out-pitching the best there is. His arm is just that freaking good when he's on. A 4.76 ERA this season seems to indicate he isn't on most nights.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:34 PM) To be fair, Contreras's stats are influenced alot by his early run. AJ would be better than the COunt of late: June 6.83 ERA July 8.62 ERA. Or last year's 5.57 ERA . This is AJ's first season since 2003 with an ERA over 4. Or maybe just maybe Contreras comes back with no elbow pain and pitches like he did through mid June when his ERA was under 3.00.

Amazing how many people think this would be a great deal for the White Sox. The guy still would have to be paid a lot this year which to us is nothing, but, this year, his ERA and WHIP are higher than Jose Contreras. Soxtalk wanted to replace Contreras with Burnett in 2005, and thank God KW didn't agree.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 02:15 PM) Thats a hell of a deal for us. And we could throw some money at him and make him our back of the rotation guy for the next couple of years. I like it. $13 million or more for a back of the rotation starter who while he has his moments is usually mediocre? I don't think JR would like you much.

I think the team is entitled to picks. Its just like if the contract ended after this season, like every other free agent. Of course you would have to offer arbitration.

I don't think the Sox would do this.