Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 05:16 PM) I want the option to vest. He will be a very cheap, big bat. I love him, but cheap is something he won't be. It makes absolutely zero sense Philadelphia would pay more money if 3 seasons after the trade, the White Sox loved his play so much they picked up his option. It makes no sense that the better a player you trade away plays, the more you have to pay.

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Wouldn't that be counter productive? Jim Thome has been this team's 3rd best hitter, sitting him down in favor of a lesser hitter is only going to hurt your team. If his option vests, the Phillies should pay about half his salary so if you don't want him around you sell him off to an AL team on the cheap. I'm sure there would be some interest. Its counter productive tonight and its happening. While Thome isn't very good against lefties, he's doing much better this year than Griffey, and he's been hot lately. I don't think the Sox get any more money for Thome anyway. Everything I have seen said they received $22 million and he had $46 million left on his deal. I don't know why Philadelphia would agree to thrown in even more money if it meant Thome was productive enough to warrant exercising the option.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) Is Thome hurt or just getting the night off? Do you think one reason they got Griffey were games like this to sit Thome down and try to keep that option from vesting?

Its 3.1 plate appearances. Bradley has walked 64 times, Alexei 9 or 10. He will need 502 plate appearances by the end of the season. It could be close if they move him up in the line-up.

One thing, if the Sox scored a run or 2 or more in the 8th, no way we see Meat Wassermann in the 9th.

Wassermann needs to go. I'm sure he'll be gone on Saturday.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 09:56 PM) Ramirez has the fastest hands on this team...it's not even close. He knows how to make adjustments from pitch to pitch better than most of our MLB veterans...which is pretty amazing, considering the lower level of competition in Cuba (more or less A ball). Plus he's up in the front of the box. Takes some of the break off breaking balls.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 09:54 PM) Why didn't the White Sox go after Chad Bradford? I'm guessing $. Its too bad. I think he's there's a good chance he outperforms Huston Street the rest of the season.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 09:49 PM) What's easier to hit...an 85ish mph pitch you're looking for a 98 mph heater? He throws that pitch 40-50% of the time. If there were 2 out and he was on first or second he might be pinch run for. No reason to do it with one out. Its not worth losing the bat with the small, although it happened, chance that there will be a play a fast runner can advance 3 bases. He shouldn't have been sent, bottom line, and if everything remained status quo and he wasn't stupidly sent home, he would have eventually scored. btw, I responded to the wrong post.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 08:40 PM) My argument isnt that Cox did the right thing--- it's that this board is quick to pounce. If he's held up and then we dont score in the inning, Cox is attacked for conservatism. When the runner is thrown out by 20 or 30 feet, the coach didn't do the right thing. Especially considering the score of the game and the situation.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) This might sound a bit extreme to some people, but IMO he seriously has hurt this team and the team's chances this year. He seriously needs to be fired. He's been bad both ways. Didn't he hold up Cabrera the other day but he went through the stop sign and basically scored without a play?

What was Cox thinking?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) The pitching match-ups for the White Sox are not good at all this weekend. Who cares. As long as we get to see Ken Griffey Jr. play in a White Sox uniform all is right in the world.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 08:28 PM) Seay's in to face AJP, CQ, and Thome. I don't like Seay. I bet he has a keg cooler in his house.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 08:22 PM) Idiot of the night award to Juan Uribe. Yeah he wins. 2 for 3 with an rbi. Disregard Jr's 0 for and playing a double into a triple or Javy giving up 5 runs, he has a ton of K's.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 09:08 PM) Wonder if we could dump him on Baltimore or Seattle in the off season. Some team with gullible management. He would be good on a team like one of the two you mentioned. A team with no expectation to win, comfortably down in the standings. He could shine in the first half for a non contender and someone would give up a decent package at the deadline.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 09:07 PM) Like Hawk? No. Hawk realizes he's got some nice tools, but when it comes to performance, his career has been a dissapointment.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 09:04 PM) What a shocker, a 5 run game for Vazquez (isn't that right DAllen?) He has a lot of K's. His apologists are still happy with his performance and think the 5 runs are all luck.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 08:13 PM) CQ always gets hit by pitches. Not that I'm complaining though. His minor league HBP numbers were incredible. I just hope that with the frequency he gets hit, it doesn't cost him a couple months someday.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 07:01 PM) Javy needs to stop pitching scared and just go after the hitters and make them beat him....quit being a puss! DJ just agreed with you.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 07:57 PM) Yeah right, he put a nice pitch on fat-cab and he closed his eyes and hit it out. 99 times out of 100 he hits that foul or at the 3B. Why is it when a Tiger hits a homer, you give the White Sox pitcher credit? You did it when Polanco homered the other day? Javy is walking a tightrope and he got burned by a great hitter. Sorry to tell you this, but M. Cabrera is a better hitter than Vazquez is pitcher.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 01:51 PM) I wonder if they'll put Griffey in RF? My guess is no. Griffey will be in RF.

No JD tonight.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) It wasnt sarcasm, there is no way Griffey does not start yesterdays game. In terms of marketing presence, Ken Griffey is the biggest name on the South Side in years. He was a legitimate superstar that brings fans to the game. I went to last nights game, I cant even imagine how the 35k+ fans would have reacted to Griffey not playing. That was the Cubs' formula for years. Sammy and Grace, who cares about the game.Brooks Boyer does not have more pull in terms of the White Sox line-up than the baseball people. If the White Sox played Griffey last night do in any portion to PR, I would be very upset. The old saying is keep doing what the fans want you to do and you wind up sitting next to them.