Dick Allen

What is says is Josh is done in LF.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 10:30 PM) Do we have as many question marks going into next season as we did in late 2004? We lost Maggs to Detroit, CLee to Milwaukee, Valentin to LA, and Loaiza to NYY (at trading deadline). We added AJ, Iguchi, Pods, Dye, Hermanson, Vizcaino, El Duque, and Everett (again), to name a few. On 2005 Opening Day, we had 5 new positional starters and a DH, along with 2 new starting pitchers (if you count Contreras), plus a couple of new relievers (Hermie, Viz). Are we going to have 9+ new faces for Opening Day 2008? One big difference is the White Sox in 2004 weren't a 90 loss team, and were able to add some pieces at bargain rates. Their payroll now is huge. A lot of the players they would like to move have trade values near all-time lows, and there are question marks almost everywhere. The starting rotation, the bullpen, LF, CF, is Dye more like 2005-6 or is he now like 2007 or worse? Can Crede play? Can Fields play 3rd base and make enough contact? Can Uribe put things together? Can Richar get on base enough? Is 2007 a hint that Konerko is slowing down? Will AJP have to catch 145 games? Can KW acquire someone who can come off the bench that doesn't look like he peeked in Pony league? Can Thome's back hold up? KW is going to have to juggle a lot of money here, and its going to take time. Maybe a lot of the free agent, big changes talk was hyperbole to get season ticketholders to pony up.

How come Tony Gwynn didn't get slammed for being a fat man?

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 06:41 PM) Steve Stone alluded to the fact today that the Sox organization is down on Danks right now, and they're actually more likely to trade him than they are Gio. He only pitched 30 innings the last 2 months of the season and gave up 31 runs. You would think he could improve on his 2007, but its no given, and his endurance has to be a major issue. Lets face it, from the middle of July on, he was a total train wreck. Some of it can be blamed on age and inexperience, still there has to be a lot of concern. The White Sox have to be very careful if they trade Garland that they bring in another starter. If Danks, Floyd and Gio are counted on for 400 innings, and the bullpen isn't lights out, you aren't going to win in 2008.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 04:53 PM) Espn 1000 said Torii Hunter confirmed he will meet with KW on Sunday.... If the price to bring in Hunter includes the big money, the long years and either Jerry Owens or Danny Richar leading off, it really will be a waste of money.

The other problem the White Sox have right now is a lot of their tradeable pieces are currently in a sell low state.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 10:22 AM) Kenny did make a run at Clement the last time he was a FA and got outbid... The amount of people at Soxtalk who thought Clement was perfect for the White Sox back then was enormous. I shutter to think where the White Sox would be right now if they signed him instead of doing some other things with their money. The current record probably wouldn't be much worse, but there wouldn't be a championship and the payroll would probably be at least $30-40 million lower, although there is probably a good chance Chris Young would still be a White Sox.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 10:22 PM) Another day passes and no improvements. Good thing Williams went there ready to deal. I know, what's he thinking. Opening day is now less than 5 months away and he doesn't have his roster set. He's screwed.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 06:58 PM) No chance. When a GM comes out and says he has concerns about his health, he isn't then going to sign him. I disagree. I think he still has interest and would love to sign him, but at the White Sox price.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 06:44 PM) He also hinted in the article about still looking for upgrades. Sort of a casual reference, like, "we don't NEED to, but if the right situation comes along..." Classic Kenny. I don't know who else is interested in Eckstein, but I'm sure KW still is. If KW signs Eckstein, it will probably save the team at least as much as they will pay Uribe this season over the course of the contract compared to what he would probably have had to pay him out of desperation.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 04:02 PM) I would certainly hope so. If they could pull it off, I'd be pretty happy, even if it cost Fields. Cabrera is actually younger than Fields.

QUOTE(NCsoxfan @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 02:26 PM) Should we have to trade away Garland/Danks/Floyd, would it make sense to take a 1 year flier on Colon? We know Kenny has always liked him, and heck, he might be worth the risk for 1 yr 8 mil. Am I nuts? Not for $8 million, but something very low with a bunch of incentives makes a lot of sense to me.

I think if they trade Crede, there's still a good chance Eckstein comes here. Sorry Rock Raines. The White Sox have thought that Uribe may be better if not a regular but a guy that moves around like his first year with the White Sox.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 10:47 AM) I'm shocked at the lack of speculation around Furcal. He really seems as perfect a fit as Toby Hall was when the Dodgers released him. I assume they know something we don't. $13 million for 2008 probably has everything to do with it. He's not exactly 100% physically right now. After the season it was determined he didn't need ankle surgery, but trading for him now would be a huge gamble.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 02:21 AM) Ozzie is very good friends with Miguel Cabrera; both are from Venezuela, and Ozzie coached him in Florida. For all we know, Ozzie and Uribe may hate the s*** out of each other. Ozzie and Uribe get along well. Uribe is one of the most popular guys on the team in the clubhouse.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 6, 2007 -> 10:20 PM) Lets add Hawk to that list and I say the offseason is starting out well. Looks like you'll be 0 for 4. You're turning into Uribe.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 6, 2007 -> 08:19 PM) Lets give it a rest on the he will be playing for a contract as motivation, and the rest of the excuses. He has enough history in the majors to prove the hitter he is. He is who he is. The talent is there, sure. The knock on him in the Rockies organization is talented, but lazy. Here we are years later, and we have the same BA, the same undisciplined approach, and now a new wrinkle a problem with keeping a fork filled with food from repeatedly entering his mouth. 5 million dollars for good defense, and horrible BA. Its like we have Jose Valentin with a bit better defense. I hope we can improve the SS position and ditch this guy. At least you're blaming him and not Walker. Farmio said he's pretty sure he's coming back.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Nov 6, 2007 -> 09:55 PM) So, would they take Danks, Fields and Sweeney? It would be along those lines, although I don't know if they would want Danks. I read where they want "signable" guys, and Danks has an agent named Boras. But if they would, there would be no reason for KW to say no.

To put things into perspective, Cabrera is 4 months younger than Josh Fields. I read today somewhere the asking price isn't nearly as huge as you would think. They want a young major league starter, a young major league position player and a prospect, a good prospect not necessarily the organizations best. I'm sure the price could rise if there's a bidding war, but acquiring him would make me very happy.

The platehead that owns the Subway by me wears a bandana every freaking day. It must stink if he ever takes it off. We know you're bald dude. Take it off.

Its apparent to me the White Sox should exercise Uribe's option. It really makes no sense to trade for someone to replace him who isn't substantially better than him, and makes more money than him. He will be playing for a contract. Hopefully he won't have any off the field issues like that shooting and his mother's health this past year, not that should be used for an excuse because he had a lot of the same offensive woes the previous 2 seasons. If Greg Walker is the poison that a lot of people around here say he is, it doesn't matter who they replace him with because he will ruin them too.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 6, 2007 -> 06:02 PM) If he gets 7-8, I don't want any part of him either. I highly doubt he gets that much(yes, even with the news of this Vizquel disaster). In a market where a 42 year old SS coming off a year with a .305 OBP with no power can get $5.5 million, if Eckstein can't get $7-8 million, would you really want him?

KW's "market correction" will have to wait for another year.

Omar Vizquel is going to sign a 1 year $5.5 million contract with SF. Considering his age and his 2007, Uribe's option is looking better and better.

Wilson hit .409 the past 2 months of 2007. Didn't he get benched by the Pirates earlier?