Dick Allen

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:41 AM) Hypothetically, if the offense were great, would it be because of Walker? Not in my mind. Cooper does get a lot of credit when the pitchers are pitching well.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:40 AM) Seems like he does like once a year. For someone who think they're so macho, he sure acts like a pussy sometimes. Suck it up Ozzie, and dedicate yourself to worrying more about the team on the field than making quotes off the field. It kind of reminds me when Ditka popped off that the Bears would probably not win another game the rest of the season once. Turns out he was right for a change. Ozzie will be around this season(as long as he doesn't say anything too stupid) but his demise isn't too far off.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ May 30, 2007 -> 11:53 PM) but I like cooper I was screwing around. I don't think its Cooper's fault the pitching sucks, just like I don't think its Walker's fault the offense sucks.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 30, 2007 -> 10:42 PM) There's no one to be sold on in our farm system. Yet Schaeffer and Wilder get promotions.

I thin you may be Sammy Sosa.

I think the most important players right now are the guys who probably won't be here next season. It will be interesting to see what KW can get for Buerhle, Dye, Iguchi and whoever else he most likely deals away before the deadline if there is no hot streak. If he makes Durham for Adkins-like trades it will be very dissapointing.

Judging from Ozzie's comments after today's game, he has come to the realization this team needs to be changed to win. Its time for KW to admit he was wrong this winter, swallow his pride and either make some really bold moves in an attempt to catch up this season or start selling off pieces that aren't going to be around in 2008.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ May 30, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) our starters have an 8.58 ERA since Danks last won FIRE COOPER

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 30, 2007 -> 06:05 PM) It will be really interesting to see what the Sox do in the draft this year. I would like to see them spend a lot of money, take a lot of "signability guys" in the later rounds. The Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs do this all the time. The Yankees have really improved their system over the last couple of years going this route. I highly doubt the Sox will though. At least you'll be able to admire Vazquez's 6 inning 5 run 7 k games through the 2010 season.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2007 -> 05:54 PM) Is KW the coach or manager? Thank you. No, he's their boss.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) If a pitcher has lost velocity you don't want to let them know it is a problem. He would never say that. I would look at their training program and who gives it to them. Maybe then we could see if there is a problem with that. The training program and how they keep themselves in shape is what has most to do with losing velocity. It is an explosive movement. They need to be in the right shape to be able to pitch. Last year Vazquez was not good. I'd still take him over McCarthy. McCarthy is an overrated piece of garbage who thought way too highly of himself. KW was pitching about the velocity about a week before the season started.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2007 -> 05:48 PM) So El Duque was tired? He needed a rest before the playoff run. He was great in the playoffs wasn't he? Without him we may have not got past Boston. Thank God McCarthy didn't make the roster. He is no good coming out of the bullpen. The way McCarthy pitched last year I didn't want him in there either. After seeing him pitch this year I am much happier with Vazquez over McCarthy. Good job Ozzie. McCarthy wasn't very good last year, but his ERA was lower than Vazquez's. So if he's bad coming out of the bullpen what does that make Vazquez?

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2007 -> 05:44 PM) How did that work out? I think El Duque is putting up better numbers than McCarthy still. McCarthy is a young stud and El Duque is regressing? It damn near cost the Sox the division. El Duque finally had to be put to sleep for a while and McCarthy won some big games. Ozzie didn't want the young guy in the rotation last year either, so Vazquez gets picked up using up money that could have been spent on other things and the Sox best prospect in years goes away.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2007 -> 05:40 PM) We are talking about Ozzie. You think Ozzie would not play a young stud over a regressing vet? Give me an example. Show me our young stud and our regressing vet. Do you mean our mediocre young kid and our mediore vet? I think Ozzie will choose the mediocre vet because he will not make the stupid inexperienced mistake over and over again. Now please show me an example of where Ozzie did not play a young stud over the regressing vet - without that your argument is for the crapper and is nonsense. Brandon McCarthy vs. El Duque August 2005.

Why is it when the Sox hitters don't hit Greg Walker should be fired, but when the pitchers can't pitch none of it falls on Cooper?

QUOTE(southsideirish @ May 30, 2007 -> 05:16 PM) Part of the problem is that they trade young players they acquire/draft (Reed, Morse, and Olivo) and get something they need and has more valuable - a proven veteran pitcher (Freddy Garcia). Organizations view the development of players differently. The Sox seem to think of them as chips to get veterans. The Twins like to develop them and then lose them to free agency. The Sox have really struggled bringing guys up. KW would rather develop guys to use than use them to trade for high priced veterans. I just wonder if a guy like Sweeney or Anderson or even some of these pitchers would be better players if they were brought up in a different organization. Then again guys like Olivo, Reed, even Abbott regressed even farther when leaving the White Sox. All I know is when the DH went down, Brian Anderson DHd a game. When one of our bargain basement relievers couldn't throw a strike anymore he was replaced by a 26 year old AA pitcher. When the most used bench guy goes down, he's replaced by a 25 year old non-prospect. The team sets attendance records, is coming off a championship, the TV ratings are beating their crosstown nemisis, and what does KW do to ride the momentum? Sign Erstad for $1 million of course. Huge move. Give Pods $3 million and Javier Vazquez $33 million more 2 seasons before you lose control of him, and then cry about the crazy spending of others. Spend a total of $3.6 million on the entire bullpen and pronounce it one of the best in baseball. Say you need to get back to "Ozzieball" a myth btw even in 2005 and not only not improve the team speed, but actually get slower if possible. Speed, unless your name is Podsednik, does not slump.

The Sox haven't developed players like the Twins do. That's part of the problem. What I don't understand is why guys like Wilder and Schaefer, who are largely responsible for the players in the system and their development get promotions.

QUOTE(daa84 @ May 30, 2007 -> 03:08 PM) macdougal doesn't have options......so it would be moronic to just let him go....it doesn't take balls to send him down, it takes stupidity Really? He gets paid about 50% of what the entire bullpen makes. If someone wants a guy who can't throw a strike let them have him.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ May 30, 2007 -> 03:07 PM) the sox will combat this by sending down another bullpen arm.....way to shake it up we have more holes in this team that a pile of f***in swiss cheese. If you are going to preach about all the "talent" on the roster, hold them accountable. Frankly, I am sick of watching little league style control on the mound for a team that thinks its a contender.

If KW had the balls he claims he has he would send Aardsma and MacDougal to Charlotte right now.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 30, 2007 -> 03:05 PM) When it's 3 f***ing 0 just f***ing throw the ball underhand to the f***ing plate I don't think that would work either. Remember him trying to walk someone intentionally?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2007 -> 02:11 PM) seriously, what percentage of runs in this series got on base due to a walk? I think already 4 walks have scored for garland today, at least 3 for both Jose and Danks Strikes have definitely been an issue this year. Especially with the bullpen. Even when they aren't walking guys they are getting hammered because its 2-0 or 3-1.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 30, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) Would you rather he trotted out a member of the worst bullpen in baseball? But the baseball genius fixed a bad bullpen. Everyone throws 97.

If Fields ever gets a chance to play everyday in the major leagues, he will be in the top 5 in ks.

I'm pretty sure ARod is the only NY athlete and certainly the only Yankee who has ever stepped out on his wife. If that even is what he's doing.