Dick Allen

QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Mar 6, 2007 -> 03:47 PM) I don't have time to do this right now, but I'm willing to bet there are at least a handful of losses where the offense put up 6+ runs of support and Javy went out and blew it for the team in the early months of the season. There were only 2 or 3 times that Vazquez pitched last season where he didn't have the lead at some point. It really makes his record even worse.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 6, 2007 -> 03:05 PM) ugh, I dont know if I would compare Meche and Javy. their k rates were pretty comparable last season. Meche wins at a higher pct. for his career. Their ERA's if you adjust for AL are pretty close, Meche's would probably be better.

Gil Meche money for Gil Meche numbers.

mlb.tv improved the picture a bit for the deluxe package this season. I saw a sample and if you full screen it, it still looks a little underwater, but not as much. Its at least watchable. I definitely would buy it if I didn't live in the Chicago area.

Tyson Chandler really railed on Scott Skiles to an Oklahoma newpaper, saying he was an awful person etc., comments far more condemning than anything McCarthy said or even Ordonez said. Skiles was asked for a response to the comments. He said he had none. I think Ozzie should take notes.

Jenks has pronounced himself all better after some massage, stimulation, ice, poking, a bullpen session, and oh no, a towel drill.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 08:02 PM) so let me ask...how are you going to get ARod without giving up Crede? It would be possible for ARod to be a 3Bman this year and then move to SS in 2008 with Fields taking over at 3B. I just don't see how ARod would have been the SS this year for the White Sox. I agree with you. But even if Crede wasn't involved in the deal, he would be gone in another one soon after.

Its very apparent that Ozzie is going to be given the bait almost everytime he gives an interview to say something outrageous. It appears he can't help himself and will spout off. It will eventually lead to his demise, and a lot of people will be shocked. I won't.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) Wha does Ozzie mean here? Throw your hands up in the air when a teammate (Mackowiak) makes a bad break on the ball? Throw a hissy fit when guys (Iguchi) make an error? Or does he want guys to 'take days off' when they play against lesser teams? Didn't Ozzie say he expected Garcia to have a big year this year because he's playing for a contract? He's advocating modeling yourself after a guy who needs a new contract for motivation. The current one isn't motivation enough.

So Ozzie, who most who even think McCarthy sucks will agree, misused him last year, says McCarthy, the rookie making the minimum may just be the one responsible for blowing the White Sox playoff chances. Yet Buerhle, who was batting practice the second half of last season, and admittedly was out of shape, bears no blame. Nor does Freddy Garcia who admitted he only gets up for big games, or Jon Garland whose ERA was over 6.00 the first 2 months, nor the guy responsible for assembling the bullpen last year, nor the guy who insisted on putting Mackowiak in CF and continued to leave Vazquez in past the fifth inning time and time again to get pounded. Don't blame any of those guys. I'm glad I saw the light. Brandon McCarthy is the reason the White Sox didn't make the playoffs and probably would have won another title. I am so happy he's gone. I'm sure Gavin Floyd will be much better. QUOTE(chisox72 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 08:08 PM) I am sure he was just using Freddy as an example of a veteran presence and nothing more. For christ sake, this Brandon McCarthy love-fest is beyond me. I am okay with what Ozzie had to say, especially after reading Merkin's article. B-Mac was immature, and his attitude on the team based on all of the reports was also immature. Then he leaves and rips the organization in various news sources. But yeah, he did no wrong, Ozzie is the asshole and B-Mac is the saint. Afterall, he is paving his way to Cooperstown. Maybe without B-Mac around, BA can get his head out of his ass too before he gets sent packing... You would have to look long and hard to find a more immature 42 or 43 year old man than Ozzie Guillen.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 03:03 PM) We can only go on what we know, and what we know is that almost all of them love to play for him. What we know is most claim to love to play for him. There are some that have no use for him.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 03:02 PM) Don't you mean Tracey? Ozzie went after Garland as well last season.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 02:55 PM) If Ozzie is ripping them publicly, he must have seen things behind the scenes that would be cause for concern on both Anderson and Bmac--something that affected their playing more than just some Freddy and some smoke. Not that he should. He should keep it private. Yet vets like AJ, Buehrle, Konerko, Thome, and Dye don't seem to mind or think he's out of line. They seem more amused by Ozzie when reporters give them Ozzie quotes, than think he's out of line. That's because they are veterans and professionals, and realize, unlike their manager, that saying whatever you feel like saying, and even being blunt and telling the truth, isn't always the best way to deal with the press. Believe me, Ozzie Guillen could easily be so embarrassed if people mentioned some of the things he's done during his White Sox career, he has tons of skeletons in his closet, and they would be just being honest. You can't tell me the Sox players don't mind any of Ozzie's act.

Ozzie always has his favorites and is very inconsistent. He blamed Jenks and Uribe for being out of shape last year, but blamed Allen Thomas for Buerhle and Garcia being out of shape.

I don't see where what anything McCarthy said should be offensive. Guys that are 22 or 23 don't hang out with guys who are 30-35. Almost everytime someone leaves the Sox someone from the White Sox eventually slams that player in the press. Its really getting old. QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 02:40 PM) My view from afar is simply that Oz isn't a good game manager, and although he's good for providing spark to a listless ball club, once this club tastes success - he's been more than happy to let the life get sucked right out of it again. I view him as a short term success and not a long term solution. Most "experts" agree with you. They don't think his act is suited for long-term success.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 11:59 PM) I hope the comparisons to Buehrle immediately end with velocity. That was one of the strangest comparisons ever. Cooper basically said they were sort of alike because they both were left handed but everything else was different.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 07:22 AM) Because it's spring training and you don't take a chance? That's my point. Why, if they knew about this problem to begin with, did they take a chance with the 10 pitches? I hope this is minor, but I think its awfully presumptious to think its nothing.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 12:24 AM) I was talking to a former minor leaguer tonight and he said tightness is common in the spring. I'm not saying Bobby isn't really hurting and could be out a while, but this guy laughed when I expressed concern and said tightness is no big deal. For what it's worth anyway. If its no big deal and alright to send him to the mound with, why was Herm called to the mound, and Jenks lifted after 10 pitches? The other problem with having him pitch with shoulder tightness is he will compensate and may put more stress on the screw in his elbow.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 10:08 PM) Only a few from today's action. That first one makes it look like Jenks still needs to eat a few more salads.

QUOTE(fathom @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 09:40 PM) I was thinking the same exact thing. It's frustrating that Garland said he felt tightness in his shoulder also, and couldn't get loose. If that's the case, then why are we putting these guys on the field right now? Garland's shoulder was tight last year. Widger popped off about it, and nobody really picked up on it, and we know how awful Garland was the first couple months of the season. Hopefully all this tightness is nothing, but holes may seem to be appearing in the "playoffs=tired arms" excuse from last year. The Sox have been pretty lucky with injuries to their pitchers the last few years, eventually things tend to even out.

Anytime a pitcher has to leave a game after 10 pitches because of an issue with a shoulder or an elbow you have to be concerned. If Jenks said he's had this problem since spring training started, can someone explain to me why the hell he took the mound today?

I get BP every season, and they are no less accurate over the years than all the "experts" that get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars on various networks. I don't buy 72 wins, they use PECOTA and that probably has the offense a lot less effective than last season. I'm sure Gavin Floyd doesn't project too well with just about anybody's systems. And the rest of the White Sox pitching staff is loaded with questions. They could be great, they could be awful. I would think if everything turned bad the Sox would win more than 72, but assuming they are going to win 96+ games is probably equally as crazy.

Another interesting name supposedly a customer of this place,Evander "the maybe not so real deal" Holyfield.

QUOTE(Beltin @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 01:52 PM) Am I mistaken, or is it three other HOFers? Jenkins, Williams and Banks? You are correct.

Another 2 years of hearing Santo whine and beg........ Maybe if he helped his team make the playoffs ONCE with 2 other HOFers on the roster.