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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:51 AM) Wow, then they should be able to use all those safeguards to easily entice a good hitter once every ten years, lol. Whatever...but I'm sure your confidence (that has nothing to do with Don Cooper since he sucks according to you) in keeping our pitching staff healthy year after year will be borne out. There it is. No reply so the Don Cooper card. Find one post where I said he sucks. What's next, Gordon Beckham? Your posts just make me laugh. You refuse to fact check anything.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) If you're going to value war at $7-8 million, the Desmond and Jackson are no brainers, too. The problem is the White Sox won't get that same deal from Boras on Rodon, and everyone in baseball thinks it would be dangerous to offer it to Fulmer. Now you are arguing in favor of the deals you said are bad. Are you trying not to make sense? So far, long term extensions to pitchers are bad. But Sale, Quintana? Still bad, do you really think Buster Olney would have it wrong. You wait until 1 year before they become free agents to offer extensions, because...John Danks. John Danks was extended one year before he became a free agent. But Sale and Quintana, what if they get hurt. Yes, but the Sox have safeguards in the contracts in case of those events. Still dumb, and Boras will never give you that for Rodon. So according to you, he is doing the White Sox a favor. It would be stupid locking him up to a contract that bought out free agent years because....John Danks. No sense at all and now flipping to the other side. It is hysterical.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) And your point that Quintana and Sale are great bargains and will never get injured, therefore disproving Olney...right? How can you possibly argue that until they both successfully reach the end of their 5th seasons? I suppose you're also a fortune teller? The have already saved money with Sale. You can argue he is no bargain, and everyone will laugh at you, but again, if you look at the facts, Sale and Q can be bought out the final 2 years for $1 million. So once again, you are way off. Don't let facts stop you Caulfield, those were clearly misguided extensions. They should be like the Royals and spend $70 million on Ian Kennedy.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) Ummmm....Buster Olney said it, so he doesn't make sense. Once again, he's attributing someone else's words, but I doubt he even took the time to read what Olney wrote in the first place without jumping to conclusions. Go back to the original article and read the third paragraph. I never once brought up Sale and Quintana, and neither did Olney. The Sox mistake with John Danks is a lot closer to the situation he wrote that paragraph about...in terms of risk-aversion with pitchers at that point in their careers. Make sense now? Read post #9 and explain how that has anything to do with what Olney said....it's strawman stuff. No the John Danks mention makes no sense because guess who was 1 year away from free agency when he signed an extension? Don't sign pitchers to extensions until one year before the become free agents or else you will have a John Danks situation. You know, the guy that signed an extension one year before he became a free agent. Caulfied ripping the White Sox with made up facts, take 10,156.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:08 AM) Weren't you the one who just posted that the players playing time hadn't changed since last year? Butler's hasn't. Rose and Noah were on limits. If the Thibs playing time is what killed them, why are they doing it again, and where is the outrage? I read numerous times on this board about Thibs and minutes. Haven't read much of it when he was gone, yet the players still get hurt. Noah missed games before Thibs, with Thibs, and after Thibs. Same with Hinrich and whoever else pre dated the Thibs era. If playing time really was the killer some say it is, Tim Duncan wouldn't still be around. Michael Jordan would have missed a heck of a lot more games, and he practiced just as hard as anyone as well. GarPax definitely had a problem with playing time and practice time. Now all of a sudden, not so much.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) I agree with everything you said, but I disagree with you thinking that Mirotic's appendicitis is due to this... appendicitis is not an injury sustained via physical activity like a torn ACL or a sore hamstring I'm not, but if you look at the Bulls roster, the same guys who people said were getting hurt because Thibs played them too much are still getting hurt. They have an injury plagued roster. I understand this is a freak thing, and has nothing to do with basketball. I was responding to the post that was mocking people who don't believe GarPax is doing a great job saying they would blame the injury on them.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:21 AM) Appendicitis is not "an injury". There's nothing a coach can do to prevent that. Also, tell us more about your fantasy land where minutes from previous seasons have no effect on current performance. We'll wait. Phil Jackson rode Jordan and Pippen harder than Thibs ever ran anyone. Check out Tim Duncan's minutes early in his career. No need to wait. Gar/Pax rules. The reason the team doesn't win championships is because of the coaches THEY HIRE. That is clearly not their fault. And before you tell me I don't know how the NBA runs, I do. I know it's not like baseball. Making the playoffs and losing in the first couple of rounds, even if you do it 10 years in a row, isn't so special in the NBA.

Signing Q and Sale to their extensions probably saved the White Sox, assuming they were to keep them, close to $100 million. Just dumb, right Caulfield? They would have been much smarter moving the fences back, getting 3 elite defensive OF, and signing Ian Kennedy for $70 million.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) I don't see where exactly I argued it isn't. Just saying it really only buys 2 years of control. It is a steal and everyone here knows it. Just acknowledging that he will still get paid. But it saved a ton of money. If the Sox did what Caulfield says is stupid, it would have cost them a lot more.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) When he becomes a free agent, a s***load. He's still in for a big payday. Buying out two years isn't changing that. I think they bought out 3. And it changes it a lot. It keeps him on the team, and he is pitching for less than half the amount he would be paid had he not signed the extension. Not only that, but if he blows something out, the team has $1 million buyouts, so there is hardly any risk. And he would have been paid more for his arb years. Waiting until a year before he becomes a free agent would have cost the White Sox over $50 million.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) I can't be the only one not worried about Sale vs. the Twins this year, right? Look up his 2013 stats against the Indians, they're actually worse than his numbers against Minnesota last year. Now look up Sale's ERA against the Indians from 2014-2015, it's pretty good. If they are battering him at that clip, they must have figured how he's tipping his pitches. Fix that, and they will be lost.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) The point is to avoid situations like the Danks contract that hamstring payroll flexibility. But I'm sure you will still argue we got our money's worth, nevertheless. LMAO. Your posts really are a joke.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) Buying 2 years of free agency on Sale isn't much of an extension in my opinion. Are you kidding me? Ian Kennedy gets $70 million. What do you think Chris Sale would get?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:23 AM) Okay. The jumbotron there is absurd. And the White Sox one os bigger than that one. What is interesting is where these things are going to go. I believe at the time the White Sox installed the video board in CF in 2003, it was one of the biggest in the league. There is probably a decent chance in 10 years some will be complaining about the boards being installed now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 07:28 AM) Look at Harper's age now, the year 2018 and when Trout will become a free agent (after 2020)...it's going to be closer to 12-13 years than 16 imo. And there's no telling how much wear and tear he will have on his body at that point. One of the other key notes is never to give a pitcher a long-term extension in general, and not until they're one year away from free agency to mitigate against injury risk. Sox f***ed up giving Sale and Q long term extensions.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:06 AM) He's unlikely to average $16 million per year for a two or three year pact, that's pushing it. The questioning was on why not to take one year at $15.8 million and then go back into a slim FA class next year. Put up huge numbers as a complementary piece in that more experienced offense in 2016 and it will make you look better than you really are in actuality. He will be lucky to average $12 million. The fact is, if someone offered him what you are suggesting, he wouldn't still be out there.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:11 AM) Did you go to Wrigley at all last year? No.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 07:37 AM) I know some people are angry about the direction that this offseason went but as someone who goes to a ton of games, these boards are going to be awesome The boards really were no big deal to me, but I admit, I am excited to see these in action. The Soldier Field boards are really nice, and a huge upgrade. The boards they had before were like watching standard def on a high def TV with it all stretched out. One problem with the Soldier Field boards, the ads still took up most of the board space most of the time, but when they took them down for a reply it was fantastic. That said, I don't think the boards will attract anyone to the game. It will enhance the game experience.

I wouldn't be shocked if they don't do something before Soxfest, but will be shocked if they don't do something before Opening Day. I am sure they have wanted to do something just as much as anyone on this board, but in the end it didn't make sense for them. We all, myself included, have no problem spending someone else's money, but we all make the same types of decisions in our lives when buying things. Sometimes the cost doesn't justify the purchase.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) It's too bad GarPax blew up Niko's appendix. What? I think what is shows is the Bulls roster is full of guys who keep getting hurt. The theory that they kept getting hurt because Thibs played them too much was garbage, and now it shows.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 07:22 AM) What's the highest salary you would have the White Sox pay him for one, two and three years? Would you stop at three or go to four? How close would you be willing to go to $68-72 million? I'd wouldn't give him what the Royals gave Ian Kennedy, even though he's a better player. It isn't my money being spent so I really don't care what they give him, but I really doubt he averages anywhere near $15 million a year. If they are saying he should have taken the QO, his offers must be significantly lower than that.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Fowler is not worth what becomes a late first round draft pick. If we sign him and lose the pic then keeping the Shark and offering him arbitration was just a waste of time. We should of just traded him at the deadline and picked up prospects. Its one thing to lose this pic for an Upton or Gordon. Its another thing to lose it for 2nd and 3rd tier guys. 3 of the last 4 years Fowler has put up a better WAR than CarGo. Including CarGo's 40 homer season in 2015.

While he is not a great defender, he still improves the defense. Career .363 OBP, has some pop. Probably the best of what is out there without giving up your top prospects. Definitely improves the team.

Not much of a chance Kennedy will be opting out: $7.5 million in 2016 13.5 million in 2017 16 million in 2018 16.5 million in 2019 16.5 million in 2020

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) That's nice of him. I continue to hear that MIke Tirico is a world class guy when it comes to helping out people starting up on the career (tirico also mentioned in article). Yeah, just ask the ladies of ESPN.