Dick Allen

Ethier's age and his 2014 performance still make him a huge risk. I don't think any team is going to do the Dodgers any favors and give them a sure fire player in return, no matter how much money is eaten. They are up against a wall. A ton of OF, a guy close to 5/10 which means if they want to get rid of him then, it will cost more. They always want something to waive a no trade, and his age. The guy could be perfect for 2 years, he could be awful. If I was Hahn, I wouldn't do it unless they took LaRoche back, and no other decent players, and maybe a little stipend for 2017. Let them do what they have to with LaRoche.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 2, 2016 -> 09:29 AM) Blame Jimmy for that. Didn't Gar/Pax leak that the players didn't want Thibs back, including Jimmy? Now it's Jimmy's fault if they aren't running the system they deemed to be the best fit? That is a big indictment of Hoiberg and the people who hired him and made sure to make the old coach look as bad as possible out the door.

The White Sox aren't going to trade for Ethier unless there is a lot of cash in one form or another coming back their way, and the player cost would have to be extremely low as well.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 2, 2016 -> 09:18 AM) Whatever happened to the "we are going to add younger, more cost controlled players to the roster" plan? How does an Andre Ethier square up with that vision? Not too much differently than Cespedes, and you seemed to have a big problem with the Sox not offering Cespedes whatever it took, which would have been not younger and not cost controlled.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Feb 2, 2016 -> 08:31 AM) An outfielder coming off knee surgery is a gamble. Better off seeing how he does in ST. There is some indication Tampa added outfield depth because Jennings may struggle to regain his previous ability. But if he can be had for a B prospect, might be worth a shot. There's the rub. You really have to see how healthy he is. Jennings with a bum wheel is pretty much worthless. I know he is really good defensively, but if I were the GM, the Sox need offense, I would rather have a guy who gets his WAR with his bat in the small OF rather than his glove. Not a horrific fielder, but at USCF, you can get by with average to a little below average defenders. When the White Sox won, you can hype Pods all you want, he was average. JD in RF was average at best, but they made all the plays they were supposed to make. I rather have a guy like that who hits, than a right around .700 OPS guy who is terrific with the glove.

For those who think Hoiberg's system doesn't fit the Bulls roster, the guy that hired him didn't agree: "Obviously we've known Fred for a long, long time and felt very highly of Fred," Forman said. "We have great respect for who he is as a person, and we have great respect for the job that he has done. He's a talented, in-demand coach that has attracted significant interest throughout the league and was on top of our list as we began this process ... as we [visited with him] it became very apparent to us that he was the fit that we had talked about. A fit with our players, a fit with our team, and he was the right guy to maximize the potential of this basketball team." If this is maximizing the potential, the potential isn't good enough, and GarPax needs to be broken up.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 10:59 AM) So, did he leave FOX or what? Unclear from that tweet. He is still with Fox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 09:12 AM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/.../skip-schumaker For once, I can agree with you about something. To extrapolate 6/22 into anything meaningful is ridiculous on the part of that writer. Over the last three years, 622 OPS against lefties and 639 against righties. Because of his positional versatility, he still would be a better solution for the White Sox than just sitting Sanchez on the bench to rot away, and he's got a ton of playoff experience as well. Obviously depends on the price tag, which won't be high. My preference continues to be Hernandez or Guerrero though from LA...with Desmond Jennings, Jackson and Fowler one of 3 possible outfield moves. Hasn't put up a 0.0 WAR since 2012. Hasn't put up a 1.0 WAR since 2009. No help. He actually has been worse than Avi.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/163294364?pa...12572-869959683 Skip Schumaker would be a nice veteran pick-up depending on price... 2B: Skip Schumaker Age: 35 2015 numbers: .242 batting average in 131 games Note: Valuable utility guy (he also played every outfield spot), with an .816 OPS vs. left-handed pitching in 2015. Potential landing spots: D-backs, Royals Fowler attached to White Sox, Cubs and Angels. Nothing about the Sox with either Desmond or Austin Jackson. Career .545 OPS vs. LHP with 1 home run.

QUOTE (glangon @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 05:24 AM) We used 9 over the course of the season. We used Sale, Danks, Q, Rodon, Shark, Noesi, EJ, Montas and Beck. Admittedly Montas and EJ were used as September call ups and Noesi was released because he was garbage. The 2005 White Sox used 6 which was the fewest any team had used in many years. Just a spot start here or even a minor injury there adds up.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 08:47 PM) That's what we need. Frank Thomas to help with the business side of baseball. Sure. Take advantage of the advanced degrees. Sox don't need him to teach players how to hit. Nope. Business side of baseball. He'll take charge in those board meetings. That is just a fancy title. He is going to be helping sell tickets, I would imagine a phone call from Frank Thomas would be pretty effective getting a White Sox fan to break out the credit card.

The 2 other things that stood out to me today were Buddy Bell saying the Latin players don't play games anymore. They just train for showcases so when they get signed, they basically have to be taught just about everything. That a quick fix from Latin America are few and far between. And E.Johnson seems to have developed a routine in which he has great confidence. Whether that actually works, we will have to see, but if he thinks it does, there is at least a chance. And a bonus, Wimpy and Kitty are two of the coolest guys around.

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QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:08 AM) Is there any particular reason you feel the need, or even worse, the authority, to be so mean and hostile to this guy all of the time? Get off of his case already! Leave him alone and let him post whatever he wants. If you don't care for his views, then just block him. That's what the block function is for. Just calling him out for his previous comments which contradict his latest comments. Since you are here to offer advice, why don't you take your own?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:04 AM) The ignore feature is there for a reason. If someone curses at me, I will respond in turn. In all the years on this board, I have never cursed at another poster nor a member of the White Sox. The mods can just delete this thread anyway, nobody really cares about your personal war with me. My posts about developing a hitter, about Desmond and Jackson, about Kiki Hernandez....100% doom and gloom. I know one thing, since 1979, I've never gone out of my way to judge other White Sox fans and tell them how to act and behave. iPoor Caulfield Besides, if you left the board only to return because of my comments, that's amazing since the comments were posted hours after you had left and weren't coming back until Robin was fired, which according to you was going to be pretty soon.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:58 AM) Does it really help your case to curse? You always complain about being attacked personally but what do you do to others? I haven't mentioned the Royals for a long time, you keep interjecting them deliberately to get a reaction. The only thing I know is that it would be nice if we came into Opening Day prepared to compete and not still in spring training mode. 8-11 5.5 games back 14-15 3 games back 10-15 5 games back 11-11 1 game back 10-18 9 games back 9-14 6 games back 11-10 tied 14-13 up 1 game 12-11 2.5 games back Is there any team in baseball over the last 9 years that has never been more than 1 game over .500 coming out of April? You can curse all you want, but there are numerous posters here who question the leadership and atmosphere around this team. At least I've tried to present numerous solutions in recent days. It's your prerogative to attack all of them if it gives you an exceeding amount of pleasure, but I haven't seen any of your suggestions or solutions other than it would be fine if we sign Cespedes, Upton, Gordon and Fowler. To tell the truth, I was going to leave the board this weekend (until Ventura was fired) but I saw you making more comments once again accusing me of being a Royals' fan, and that I cannot abide. If that was actually the case, you would be able to find me easily on one of their boards. I'm the only one who consistently writes with an ellipsis (....) in most of my paragraphs. Nobody is capable of to influencing me to change the team I root for, and there's also no point in following your favorite team and being self-restricted in your fandom because of some random person on the internet. Have at it. You make a Todd Frazier quote thread of your very own, and what does this post have to do with Todd Frazier? Seriously you are lost. And the "threat" of you leaving the site only I blew it for everyone? LMAO, that was the 3rd time you said you were gone only to return sooner each time. For some reason, you like to spend the majority of your day posting doom and gloom on White Sox message boards. You must be bored out of your skull.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:58 AM) Does it really help your case to curse? You always complain about being attacked personally but what do you do to others? I haven't mentioned the Royals for a long time, you keep interjecting them deliberately to get a reaction. The only thing I know is that it would be nice if we came into Opening Day prepared to compete and not still in spring training mode. 8-11 5.5 games back 14-15 3 games back 10-15 5 games back 11-11 1 game back 10-18 9 games back 9-14 6 games back 11-10 tied 14-13 up 1 game 12-11 2.5 games back Is there any team in baseball over the last 9 years that has never been more than 1 game over .500 coming out of April? You can curse all you want, but there are numerous posters here who question the leadership and atmosphere around this team. At least I've tried to present numerous solutions in recent days. It's your prerogative to attack all of them if it gives you an exceeding amount of pleasure, but I haven't seen any of your suggestions or solutions other than it would be fine if we sign Cespedes, Upton, Gordon and Fowler. To tell the truth, I was going to leave the board this weekend (until Ventura was fired) but I saw you making more comments once again accusing me of being a Royals' fan, and that I cannot abide. If that was actually the case, you would be able to find me easily on one of their boards. I'm the only one who consistently writes with an ellipsis (....) in most of my paragraphs. Nobody is capable of to influencing me to change the team I root for, and there's also no point in following your favorite team and being self-restricted in your fandom because of some random person on the internet. Have at it. You make a Todd Frazier quote thread of your very own, and what does this post have to do with Todd Frazier? Seriously you are lost.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 11:58 PM) If he's just referring to the atmosphere of SoxFest or meeting some of his new teammates for the first time, sure. What is the perception around the league the White Sox clubhouse in your idea...? We've seen a number of stories in the last week or two about lack of leadership, without quotes or pointing fingers at any specific players still with the team. WTF else would he be referring? Besides he mentioned Avila and Navarro and Sale. Avila and Navarro have never been in a White Sox clubhouse either. Do you have a problem with Sale? This routine of yours is so f***ing old and tired. We get it, the Royals are great, anything the White Sox do is bad, and any quote from anyone should be spun to explain why the White Sox suck. If Frazier said the atmosphere was intense, and not laid back. You would have said that was the problem. Why don't you just tell us what Frazier should have said that shouldn't make anyone pause,

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 04:04 AM) After Anderson, Fulmer and Adams, we might not have any prospects worth $12-15 million, for one thing. But it all depends on the hitter. Unquestionably, we could have Austin Jackson, Kiki Hernandez, Alex Guerrero or Scott Van Slyke for much less than that. And the final aspect is not only that pick itself but the elevated draft pool money that allows us to find another Adams between round 2-10. Haven't you mentioned the White Sox have a 2 year window? What kind of help would the 28th pick be halfway through one of those 2 years? Your arguments constantly contradict themselves depending on the latest White Sox rumor. I mentioned the draft pick and the increased bonus pool when the Sox didn't trade Samardzija at the deadline. It is amazing how that has gone from fairly worthless to so valuable in such a short time. Are you 100% confident Spencer Adams is going to be a big time pitcher? I hope he is but there are some red flags. He was very young for his level but he gave up hits and struck guys out at pretty much the same rate John Danks did in 2015.

Depending how badly the Dodgers want to get rid of Ethier before he becomes a 5/10 guy, maybe they would take LaRoche since they still would be saving some money and either trade or release him.

Listening to the RV/RH seminar this morning , it certainly seemed they are hoping to sign someone who has a QO attached. Hahn gave the stock answer about the team being good enough right now, but repeated several times the the true deadline was opening day. OF, IF, and pitcher are all targets. He doesn't like to name names either, but did mention a Matt Thornton reunion isn't going to happen.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) 50 at bats, in spring training or whatever it is, will not be enuf to judge anyone. the point of regressing is also how to gage it, when he is horrible in the beginning of every season. so he is on the team, the fans should accept this, and see if there is some improvement come june, mid june. that is all i am trying to point out in how i see this. i can't help it, it just doesn't make sense to what RV is saying. If you aren't going to believe them when they say he needs to earn a job and the only answer you will accept is he is going to be paid $13 million so he is going to play no matter what, why would any of these posts interest you or bother you?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) I certainly hope that is the case but the cynic in me can list millions of reasons (as in dollars) why I'd be shocked if he was benched or cut outright. The White Sox don't let go of guys with that much money on the table regardless of how bad they are. We're talking what 14 million? Mark Not quite that amount but see Keppinger, Jeff.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) From the pictures I'm seeing on social, the place looks like a ghost town. True? No

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 05:36 PM) I agree, but why the hell is he there in the first place? It is Soxfest and he is a White Sox.