Dick Allen

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 07:36 PM) . I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth. I never said I was offended. I said I was interested in the topic of discussion. But guess what? You get to have the last word. Go for it! Have a nice day Yup. Whatever. Believe whatever you chose to believe. The paying customer expresses dissatisfaction with the product they support with their $$$. Yea those schmucks, they deserve to be ripped to kingdom come Your post at WSI. You sure seem offended to me. If you are not offended, why did you make such a big deal about it here and at WSI?

I wonder why JR had lunch with ARod today.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 06:59 PM) I asked the question because I'm curious where expectations will be if Cespedes is signed. It seems like that will meet the fans expectations for a very good off-season. What if they fail, and it's an 81 win season. Who is to blame at that point? KW

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) I absolutely, positively, 100% believe that to be the case. Even if that was the case, and I don't buy it because the White Sox outdrew the Cubs Harry's first 3 years at Wrigley and on the superstation, the fault that the White Sox weren't broadcastigpng 120 games on WGN isn't on JR or EE. It pre dates them.When they had the team, the Cubs had the dates. There was no way they would have anything but a limited schedule on WGN, and then the Tribune bought the Cubs meaning there was no way they would ever be able to trump the Cubs on that station.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 05:49 PM) Then I would assume then that if you go to US Cellular and pay top dollar to see MLB, and the Sox decide to put their AAA team on the field, you would be totally cool with that because the Sox don't owe you anything.. no business owes you anything You're kidding, right..? I happen to be an independent business person and I damn well owe the people who pay for my service something. Timely delivery, professional quality product and service… Good Lord... How many games do you go to? Do you know what the Sox roster looks like before you buy tickets? if people don't like your business, the choose another. No one is stopping you from doing that. But if you think everything about a business is against you and you continue to patronize that business, quit complaining. That crap is on you. And I would be willing to bet either you have never had a complaint, or had complaints and just gave every customer exactly what they wanted even if they couldn't have been more wrong. Have you ever had an argument with a customer? It is pretty apparent you tell the neighborhood kids to stay off your lawn. You're at least as cranky as Cooper. The funny thing about Cooper is one thing message board posters have loved about him was how he would treat radio guys like Rongey like s***.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 04:39 PM) See Harry Caray/superstation WGN exposure impact. He has been dead 18 years

The other thing is the assumption that whatever Don Cooper thinks reflects the entire White Sox organization is just some more craziness. If every little thing about being a White Sox fan pisses you off so much, spend your time doing something you enjoy. You will be much better off.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Why does everyone assume that all people from Cuba are friends? I don't know if they are friends, but Cespedes really talked up Abreu before he came over, and Abreu has said similar things about Cespedes.

Why would Cespedes have a bigger market than Upton?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) Re: Bowden's report of Sox, Mets and Nats being the finalist. I think the Angels are the Sox biggest competition for Yo. Another team I can't understand didn't seem fully engaged with Upton.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:43 PM) You're wrong. It's not originally from WSI. I'm totally serious That's where Lip got it. The whiners here can't hold a candle to you guys.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:35 PM) I just can't imagine getting worked up about this. It's from WSI. They literally get upset if the guy taking the money in the parking lot isn't smiling at them. I am totally serious.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) The Upton discussions with Tigers rumors happened like 10 minutes before it was finalized That entire Upton process was spectacularly secretive. This one, not so much. What I don't understand is why would the Nats be interested in paying Cespedes but not Upton?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:02 PM) They won't report unless they're 100% confident in their report Yeah, but if I was Cespedes' agent, I sure as hell would leak it to those guys and a few more that things were getting close to a conclusion in case any team wanted to make a late run.

I don't know why I'm so enthralled. Rosenthal and Heyman have nothing. You would think if anything was close they would have something.

peavy knows what he is talking about. Sox to cheap. Cespedes no sign.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:21 PM) I have a feeling he won't sign for another week. It seems his market is out there. I don't know what waiting around another week would do. If I were him, I would want to get the ink on the paper ASAP. What if he injures himself working out?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 11:35 AM) They traded for Ben Revere to play center. Forgot about that. Does that mean Werth would be out of a job,

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) He's Sticking to it: @cronebender I'm aware of people's issues but I don't see what I did wrong. It's true. Report will come out soon. Just watch. https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeBauer21/stat...855725254922240 About the same as that guy who said it was a 6 year contract a couple weeks back. Then said the issue was the Sox would only go 5.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) http://metsmerizedonline.com/2016/01/shoul...-cespedes.html/ More fuel for the fire. So sell high on Granderson, and buy even higher on Cespedes. I like the way these guys think.

Well it is Wednesday. If they are going to sign him, it probably would be today.

The Nationals need a CF. I don't think Cespedes is a CF. Would they move Harper to CF? Would they want to do that?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) How did the 05-06 Sox attendance compare to the 05-06 Cubs? I dont really know the best source for that type of data. The 79-83 Cubs outdrew the 2005 World Champions by 758,000 The 66-96 2006 Cubs outdrew the defending champions who set their franchise attendance record by 166k.

When the White Sox won the WS, a year they never where not in first place even for a day, they had below AL average attendance. When they won the division in 2000, they were over 300k below average attendance wise. That is probably where they are at right now. Win a division, you will be about 4k a game below average. Win a playoff series or 3, you will get a bump the next season. 2000 300k below AL average 2005 18k below AL average 2008 36k above AL average It isn't really like the Sox fanbase goes overboard to support a winner. They become average.

QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 07:51 AM) At first I was very optimistic about one of the big 3. Yo being who I was most optimistic about with all the reports. Upton getting 6 years 130+ diminishes all optimism for Yo. That said I would be cool with going A Jackson and someone like Latos on a prove it deal. I'm not a fan of giving up a pick for Fowler who I've been a fan of his tools since his days in Colorado. People suggesting Desmond for stop gap SS then OF next year. Has he ever played the OF? I don't follow the Nats but he never blew me away when I would occasionally watch the game so I'm not the best to judge him but for the price difference I guess him paired with Jackson and Latos would be OK. No he's never played the OF. It was mentioned on the intranet a month or so ago, and a couple of people ran with it, but if he isn't worth the contract he is going to get as a SS, I have no idea why he would be worth it as an OF. He would have to be a SS. It would make no sense to bring him in as a OF. If you want to work with him when you get him to see if he is truly capable of that, and to make room for Anderson or Saladino at SS, that makes sense. But to bring him in as anything but a SS initially would be hard to understand the logic.