Dick Allen

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 02:38 PM) 3 years, $42 million. So if a GM signs a guy and he goes into a slump, said GM should be canned.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) That swing on that 2nd pitch by Cabrera was incredibly bad looking. How does firing Ventura or Hahn fix that?

2 out of 3 games this series, the Sox get the ball to Robertson with a lead. Can't blow both.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:56 PM) Samardjiza had one hell of a start. Really he threw a 7 inning shutout, and his defense gave up a run. Alexei gave up 5 of the 6 on Monday, and 1 for 1 today.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) Thank god for the sun and their RF. To be fair fans of every White Sox opponent has been able to say Thank God for their (pick a position) vs. the Sox this season.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:35 PM) Wow to remember that all these years later amazing DA thanks. Actually Karl Heinz came up in a conversation a few years ago and a friend of mine told me about him. I just googled this article.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Really what's the back story? Here's some of it. It's 24 years old and despite what he says in the article, he hasn't come back. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-06...ting-legal-fees

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) Chicago Sting reference now all I need to hear is the name Karl-Heinz Granitza. Karl Heinz will never be in Chicago again. He owes a lot of people a lot of money.

One thing I read yesterday that was interesting, but it was Cowley so who knows if it really is true, that in 2011 KW fired Walker after Walker had to be restrained from going after him, and before Ozzie fled to Miami, KW fired him as well. JR vetoed both.

Chuck said last night Toronto is 4-22 when scoring 4 runs or less. Hold them to 4, should be OK.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:02 PM) OSHA outlawed them in 1993 don't tell the White Sox though Chuck Zwerski (sp) is in the booth......without Stacy King he sounds very dull i guess he could grow on you though. The Swirsk never works with Stacey King, and is awesome. I don't know about his baseball knowledge, but he knows a lot about basketball and is a really good guy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Bautista was really, really angry about that popup. Too bad. His shank doubles were making me angry last night.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:28 PM) I know this is not the environment for this but Len Kasper was talking on the SCORE yesterday about how the cubs are focusing on taking pitches and would rather a hitter strike out on a borderline pitch than swing at a pitch two feet out of the strike zone. I thought this was what Todd was to bring to the organization, some sort of philosophy? It is working for the cubs, the WHite Sox have nothing working for them in regard to organizational philosophy as it pertains to hitting or defense. Adam LaRoche is 27th in baseball in pitches per AB, yet most here think he is useless. I couldn't care less about pitches per AB. I would like to see a stat where they are swinging at good pitches to hit. Konerko's grand slam in the WS was on the first pitch. Some of it is just what kind of hitter you happen to be. Taking pitches can work against you if they are in the zone.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) Then how does this get fixed? This is 3 straight years of terrible baseball in almost every aspect. To me, the biggest area for improvement is in the development of players from the farm system. Nearly everyone that's been called up the last couple of years has looked like they have no chance. Just once, you would think someone would overachieve as a Sox prospect. How would firing the major league manager fix that? And just to show how little someone actually thinks about this, some have mentioned Cooper as a interim replacement. 13th in the AL in ERA with Sale, Samardzija, Q, Robertson, Rodon. The self proclaimed manager of the pitching staff. If you are about accountability, how does promoting him show that?

I think there is a little gamesmanship going on as well. They are already publicly short without Avi. Robin doesn't want to admit to being 2 men down. Let's face it, if it is footwork, Gillaspie would hardly play.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:09 PM) Then we did a horrible job of choosing the players to bring in and we need someone else to do the job of rebuilding this debacle. The players have talent. They haven't played up to the talent. Most likely they will at some point. But fire, fire, fire. That's a meathead approach.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:08 PM) Did anyone ever state if Conor is injured or not? I'm sure its the same issue, and they probably don't want him playing on this turf.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:04 PM) nice.... then who is at fault?? who should be blame?? The players are at fault. Firing Robin or firing Hahn isn't going to make them play better. It would be like firing the guy painting your house because you don't like what the landscaper did to your bushes.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:03 PM) Safe. sweet

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 27, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) This process is too long When it's long the call usually stands.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) I agree with you, you have made an incredibly strong case that Rick Hahn should be fired immediately. He blew $50 million of his bosses' money on this **** show. Well the same people who have these opinions of the players also at least thought Hahn had a spectacular offseason. .

QUOTE (LDF @ May 27, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) oh i have to sign in and say this. b/c baseball is a team first and a money maker second, unless you are an owner. if someone is not getting results, the basic thing to do is replace that person Well then, let's look at the Sox roster with the consensus Soxtalk opinion of each player: Eaton..shouldn't be leading off. Shouldn't have received an extension. Bad Melky...one of the worst hitters in the league Abreu...a hair above average, the league caught up to him LaRoche...awful. Adam Dunn II Garcia...horrible fielder, should crash and be a negative WAR guy Alexei....old and done. Get rid of Gillaspie...Hahn made a mistake by not getting a 3B this past winter Flowers...needs to be cut immediately Micah/Sanchez.......not ready with the glove for one, not ready with the bat for the other Soto...godawful Beckham.........we know what has been said about him. Unfortunately he made the team Bonifacio.......what's his purpose Shuck........he needs to go. Sale.....what's wrong. If he isn't throwing his slider a lot he isn't an ace Samardiza......horrible. Big mistake trading for him Q...flash in the pan is lacking an out pitch Danks.......nothing needs to be written Noesi.....see above Rodon......can't throw strikes. Won't be any good unless he has a change up. Jennings......bad Putnam....flash in the pan Petricka.......OK but nothing special Carroll......DFA candidate, should be in Charlotte Duke.......should never face LH hitters Robertson.....good, but yet some have concerns So the manager has a roster where, at least if you ever read a gamethread, at least 84% of it, is just plain bad. How can losing be on the manager?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 11:24 AM) In that case, the team's general manager vastly overestimated the talent available on his team because some of them had made it look too easy last year and invested $50 million this season based on that overestimation. The team's General Manager then has completely failed at his job by any reasonable standard, costing his employer a huge amount of money. He should be replaced. Why is your solution to failure in a game designed for failure always to fire someone? Can't you come up with something a little more creative?

FIFA is as corrupt as it gets. My brother actually lives in Zurich and one visit several years ago we drove by the FIFA headquarters and he was going on and on about the corruption.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 27, 2015 -> 09:20 AM) and as a default, when does one end the experiment?? So you really think the manager is why this team isn't in first place? If you think that, maybe you should lay off ownership as apparently they have put together a baseball team you think should win a lot of games.