Dick Allen

QUOTE (harkness @ May 30, 2015 -> 07:15 PM) This thread has existed for weeks. Also still not sure what you are arguing about because part of DFA is sent to the minors... its one of 4 different options the team has. Again, if you have options remaining..........nm. And this thread was started by you today.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 30, 2015 -> 07:09 PM) You seem to have a habit of putting words in people's mouths. He didn't say scoring no runs was Sanchez's fault. He simply suggested replacing the guy with a wRC+ of 14 with the guy with a wRC+ of 111. LMAO. No one likes Gordon Beckham here more than me, but it isn't about what your wRC+ is right now. It is about what it will be tomorrow and in the future. If Gordon Beckham was going to continue to put up those numbers playing every day at 2b, and Sanchez was goimg to hit .170 the rest of his life, it would make sense. But that is most likely not the case.

QUOTE (harkness @ May 30, 2015 -> 07:04 PM) Sent back to the minors where he has been for most of his career... including the beginning of this season.... You can also quit saying crap that I didn't say like its all his fault or he is the reason. That's a pretty big jump to conclusion Dick. That is not what a DFA is, and Sanchez wouldn't be DFA'd because he has options left and doesn't have to go through waivers. If the White sox won 4-3 or 2-1 today, this thread doesn't exist. It was a tough match up for the Sox today, especially without Abreu.

QUOTE (harkness @ May 30, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) Yeah sending Sanchez back to AAA would be "panic"? Or playing guys at positions they have always played.. Weird definition of panic there Dick. You said he would be DFA'd. Do you even know what that is? If Gillaspie played 3B today and Beckham 2B, the odds are overwhelmimg they still wouldn't have scored.

QUOTE (harkness @ May 30, 2015 -> 06:51 PM) Perhaps but if Sanchez doesn't start hitting soon he will be DFA... It's also about not destroying his confidence. He won't be DFA'd.

So the White Sox didn't score vs.a pitcher with an ERA under 2.00, without Abreu in the line up, and more panic sets in. Now scoring zero is Sanchez's fault. LMAO

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 30, 2015 -> 05:12 PM) I will grant you this - we haven't screwed anything up nearly as bad as "passing on Bryant and Rodon" recently. That is pretty brutal.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 30, 2015 -> 05:04 PM) +1 You would have turned in your Astros fancard a lomg time ago.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 30, 2015 -> 04:57 PM) Astros baserunning like the White Sox. Their manager must be an idiot.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 30, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Coming into the season, I'm pretty sure he only rated above average in RF Either way, I don't think it is a very big deal. When the Sox brought back Beckham, I figured Bonifacio was more or less the 4th OF. But his bad spring training must have really shot him down the charts. He has been behind Beckham and Shuck simce opening day.

I don't think the Sox see Bonifacio as an OF. Has he played there this season?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 30, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) When you have 2 hitters in your whole lineup who are above average, losing 1 of them is a pretty big loss. And really, you totally cover yourself in dignity with the bolded. You can't make a valid point yourself about why its a good idea to play people until injuries get worse rather than giving them enough time off to manage them...so you devolve to making personal comments. As I stated before, I would listen to the medical staff. The people who are educated and trained for this kimd of thing. If you remember Robin's comment when Avi was initially tsken out and reentered the line up, he said it was a case where playing on it wouldn't make it worse. You can think he just made this up off the top of his head,and the training and medical staff were never consulted, and everyone is afraid of Robin in the White Sox organization so they will just do as he says, but it would be a case of you being incorrect again. He was cleared medically, he said he was good to go, he played. Even if he sat the one magical day, I am guessing with his current injury, it wouldn't have suddenly dissappeared. And the comment about Ozzie's education is pretty accurate.

XRay on Abreu negative. Not in the line up.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 30, 2015 -> 10:26 AM) I'm sure you agree the White Sox don't need Abreu's bat for the next 2 weeks if this is a major problem right? We should listen to the guy with a 5th grade education. Dr. Ozzie. Sit for omeday, problem solved. Besides, you said Abreu is a tick above average. How would that be a big loss?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 30, 2015 -> 01:18 AM) The new story is that Hoiberg interviewed with Orlando If the Mayor winds up anywhereupother than the Bulls I apaologize for being wrong, but I think any play at this point is to hide the fact that this move was pretty much agreed to months ago.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 30, 2015 -> 02:10 AM) They should have given him a day off after he injured it...that magic cure-all day. Just another one of the million bonehead moves Herm Shneider's done to cripple this franchise the last few decades. It is just common sense. Don't listen to the medical people if they don't include the magic cure all day.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 29, 2015 -> 10:02 PM) Well, if Abreu's out tomorrow, hopefully they can DH Avi Supposedly Avi is playing tomorrow regardless.

Webb makes Carter look silly.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 29, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) Remember two years ago when I reported the FO wanted Webb as the next closer? Maybe it's finally happening!!!!! He is really good if he can throw strikes. Bur he gets like the big kid in little,league that throws gas but walks everybody and throws wild pitches.

That's my guy.

Melky can really throw. And usually he is pretty accurate. That wasn't even close.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2015 -> 06:09 PM) Robin Ventura: The buck stops with everyone but him. How dumb of me. I am sure Robin totally blew off the training staff and just figured he couldn't hurt it more by playing on it which is the lie he tried to sell us. Thank God you are aroumd to call him out.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2015 -> 06:22 PM) Which is a particular shame because I'm at best a very slight hockey fan since he wouldn't let me watch hockey while growing up. You must have missed the memo that they didn't play all their games at home.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 29, 2015 -> 05:52 PM) that is why i left it the way i did. i never wanted somebody who i don't know dead. it would be great if he would step down and let the youngins take over. I actually witnessed one fan interaction with Bill Wirtz and had one myself. Bill was walking in front of the Board of Trade about 15 years ago when a guy just got in his face screaming at him as Bill continued to walk down Jackson. I was torn between thinking it was funny and thinking it was pathetic, but it is something I don't think I will ever forget. And omce I was in a United Center bar befor a game about the time plasma TVs were coming out. It wasn't high def yet but sure enough Bill shows up and starts talkimg to my buddy and me about how these TVs are goimg to make watching hockey on TV so much better. He was right on about that one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) Kept running him out there for a week after the initial injury, he barely hit for that week, had to be pulled from several games, aggravated the injury while playing more than once and now they've basically shut him down for the better part of a week because of how many different times he aggravated it. He will have 2 starts in the last 9 games after today. The alternative, taking him out to rest the day or two days after he got hurt might have prevented the aggravations, and if not, putting him on the DL or shutting him down for several games sooner would have gotten him back to normal quicker. He's been dealing with this longer than he would have had he been shut down initially or even been put on the DL initially and he was ineffective while he was trying to play through it. The correct move was to sit him at least for the day after he was first pulled from a game, maybe the 2 days afterwards. Instead we've made this a 2 week event already. Fire Herm Schneider?