StrangeSox

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) Hate to agree with Palin, but Cain is the flavor of the month. Once people get an idea of how ludicrous his ideas actually are, and how his words are going to be very easily twisted because of the nature of his fiery speeches, he'll fade fast. He's already taking a beating from the right-wingers for expressing concern over Perry's "n*****head" thing.

It was, arguably, the most important thing to get right.

Yeah but you don't have a constitutional right to drive on government roadways.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) Chris Christie is not running. And this made me laugh: @OsamaInHell - Chris Christie and I have a lot in common: I hate Obama, he hates Obama, I attacked NYC in 2001, he attacked NYC at the end of Ghostbusters I don't know why anyone is eager for Christie to run, he's said plenty of things that virtually guarantee he'd be rejected by the tea party.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 03:34 PM) That's just a problem with the average American. They have to be punched in the face to see anything. It was blatantly obvious that he killed Gale. I don't remember having any doubts about that and I didn't read any interviews.

Heller, of Heller v DC, lost a follow-up case challenging the new laws that DC enacted in 2008 in response to the original decision.

Boo.

the Koch brothers are the liberals'/dems' Soros boogeyman

Where does the show go at that point?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:13 AM) Well I will say to this point there aren't enough of them to really disrupt anything in Chicago. The communists and socialists are way more impressive when it comes to screwing things up, as are the anti-war people. This group is extraordinarily tiny... like 25 to 30 people tops each of the times I have walked by there. It looks even worse when they spread out around the three corners. From DePaul's newspaper: 15! Wow! Look out, fat cats!

"Several recent studies have found that 95 percent of climate scientists are convinced that the planet is rapidly warming as a result of human activity. But a George Mason University-Yale University poll in May found that only 13 percent of the public realizes that scientists have come to that conclusion. You would expect conservatives to stand with 95 percent of the scientific community and to grow the 13 percent into a working majority. Normally, we deal in facts, we accept science and we counter sentiment," - Former Congressman (2010 Tea Party casualty) Bob Inglis (R-SC).

Cool, then we're all agreed that both the comparisons to Hitler and the tribal OUTRAGE! when the other team does it are dumb.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) Bingo. The people who care now, didn't care three years ago. Politics is generally dumb tribalism. That doesn't mean that the NFL/ESPN did anything wrong in pulling Williams.

I have nothing wrong with entertainers having political opinions, I'd lay the blame at the feet of people who idolize them and think they have some special insight.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) Did you miss the whole "well no one really important said it... well except for the Democrats biggest funder.." I guess I don't get what your point here is. Hank Williams Jr. said something pretty offensive and was pulled from a very public promotional spot. Why does it matter if some people on the other team said the same thing about Bush?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:02 AM) What that proved was that it is just a convenient of a slur for the left. And you can step off of your soapbox because no one here has said it was OK. Who here is denying any of this?

My favorite part is the bewildered look on F&F hosts' faces when he said that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 08:18 AM) Got it. 4 seconds.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 12:37 AM) That's the one thing about football I really dislike, the whole redneck-y hick aura the sport has, like NASCAR and pro wrestling, I hate that. Hank Williams Jr just sucks, his "music" is God awful. Hank Williams Sr>Hank Williams III>>>>>>>>Hank Williams Jr

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 08:56 PM) It is a good thing that this guy is dead. It is not a good thing that we had to ignore the law to make it happen. No arguments there.

An American citizen was killed by his own government without due process, let's pause and think if that's a good thing.

http://politics.salon.com/2011/10/03/awlaki_7/singleton/

If the law needs to be changed, change it. Don't violate it and strip a US citizen of his basic rights. And, again, his ties to Al Qaeda are alleged. Not demonstrated or claimed by Awlaki himself.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) Not to mention the fact that 99.9% of the "evidence" establishing his treasonous acts would be considered state secrets of national security and probably protected from being released in court. Which should give you even more pause for allowing the government these sorts of powers, not less.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Treason is a different animal. What you're suggesting is that people that scream "Death to the USA, I am now a citizen of France, the mortal sworn enemy of the US, and I will publish various state and military secrets to aid them in their quest to destroy America" couldn't be tried for treason because they were merely exercising their Constitutional right to freedom of assembly/speech/publication. If the wikileaks guy (but American citizen version) had given up actual state secrets/intelligence, don't you think he'd be tried for treason, despite exercising his right to publication? I'm not suggesting that someone should be tried for treason for complaining or arguing against the US. But at some point that stops being politically protected speech and starts being treasonous acts against the state. You just slipped in an actual condition for losing your citizenship in there, which is absent from the real case. Additionally, publishing some state secrets may not be protected speech, whereas violent anti-government rhetoric is. If the speech is Constitutionally protected, you cannot be prosecuted for a crime or stripped of your citizenship for making it. Furthermore, in the Wikileaks case, neither Mannings's nor Assange's intention is predicated on "Death to the USA" or intentionally giving aid to an enemy in order to help them defeat America.