StrangeSox

You've been dropping great wisdom like "Holder did F&F" which isn't terribly relevant. You also complain about other people's posting more than actually posting, which is pretty funny. But yeah the idea that Trump is afraid to take stances loudly and belligerently on whatever the topic de jure is is hilarious. If there is one thing about Trump, it's that he's not afraid to say exactly whatever is on his mind at any given moment.

1) lmbo 2) F&F started under Bush, it was a dumb debacle and it ended fairly early under Obama, I want to say as early as 2010? It's been a movement conservative thing to whine about for nearly a decade now. I'll uncategorically call it a stupid program. 3) yes clearly I support drug cartels and MS-13, and clearly they will vote for Democrats despite them largely being non-citizens. Do you actually listen to yourself, man? Not wanting to dehumanize people doesn't mean you "support" them. Noting that the President and many demagogues before him conflate "violent" immigrants with all immigrants to rile up vitriol doesn't mean I support MS-13. Noting that F&F is a conservative bugaboo for years doesn't mean I support that dumb program. 4) You can find plenty of information about what criminal justice reforms Obama enacted if you spent just a few minutes searching places other than right-wing fever swamps. I've mentioned several, along with the steps Trump's admin has taken in undermining them. Nothing about ranting about "race baiting" or F&F actually addresses the topic at hand, which is criminal justice or perhaps more specifically prison reform if you want to narrow the scope. You decided to bring up two conservative complaints out of the blue even though they're pretty irrelevant here other than to say "Holder bad!"

lmao

Obama's DOJ had some meaningful criminal justice reforms. Trump's largely reversed them. Ranting about "race baiting" and silly movement conservative bugaboos like Fast & Furious doesn't change that. Check out the steady decline in incarceration rates during his term. Check out the push-back against the for-profit prison industry. Consent decrees that held police departments accountable for the civil rights abuses. Not charging low-level, non-violent drug offenders in the first place. I'm not saying Obama fixed everything or that our justice/prison system wasn't still abhorrent when he left office. It was. He probably could have and should have done more. But that's different from saying he did nothing. And so far, Trump's only taken steps to roll back those reforms, impose harsher sentences, revive for-profit private prisons, charge more people with stronger charges.

Nothing she said is worse than what the President of the United States said before, during and after his campaign. Why should she have expected to face any consequences?

This administration has already undone a lot of the criminal justice reform, including prison reform, that the last administration put in place. This includes directing prosecutors to pursue the most aggressive charges and sentences possible, going back to using private prisons, announcing intent to prosecute for low-level & non-violent drug offenses, refusing to hold police accountable via consent decrees, and continues to neglect sentencing reform at the behest of his Attorney General. The last president came far from fixing everything, but he did more than "just spouting rhetoric." The first 15 months or so of the Trump administration has seen a rollback of those advances. So far, all he's talked about is prison release programs rather than reducing the number of incarcerated in the first place. If Trump changed course and legitimately committed to criminal justice reform including prison reform, sure, I'd give him credit. I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

Yeah, that's the scary part. Like you said above, why don't they have a stringent QC program to catch this sort of thing before the car gets shipped out? Having the end-users beta test your products is crappy enough in the software world. We shouldn't be doing it with 3 ton machines driven at 80+ mph.

Joy Behar called Mike Pence crazy for claiming that he hears Jesus talking to him in his head, so that's where all of the performative conservative outrage over "Behar said Christians are crazy!" is coming from. They're also mad about Bill Maher. LOL if you think most people on the left wouldn't thrilled with him getting dumpstered.

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Or maybe it's over his other ongoing scandal

He's been plagued by a "revenge porn"/blackmail scandal and the Republican-controlled MO legislature has made some noise about impeachment.

*checks thread title* hmmmm

that escalated quickly feel bad for the rest of the cast and the numerous other professionals (cameramen, writers, directors, production assistants etc.) who are losing their jobs thanks to Roseanne's brain worms.

New Harvard study estimates over 4000 people died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria https://www.washingtonpost.com/1a82503a-6070-11e8-a4a4-c070ef53f315_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a15ca447627c

The ACA didn't really have anything in common with the 90's heritage plan beyond the idea of a single mandate. It's still a half measure, but 80's Republicans weren't going to pass a massive Medicaid expansion among other key components.

when the safe establishment option lost to Donald Trump? when Even Bayh sank like a rock in Indiana? If I lived in California, I'd support her in the general if she won. I'd definitely not support her in the primary because her opponent is much better than her. That you'd back the garbage establishment over any challenger even in a state like California really speaks volumes. If the Democrats are at risk of losing that state with an actual progressive, then who cares, just pack it all in we're doomed anyway. And that's really the whole establishment's mindset. When they're not just servicing their wealthy donors, they're terrified of ever actually taking a bold stand. It lets Republicans completely dictate the political battlefield, which they've done to disastrous effect since Reagan.

Jones and his help drove out the black vote in historic numbers, which was a deliberate effort. It was good strategy and it worked. Perez intentionally kept a low profile to avoid distracting nationalization of the race. Credit is due there. But here's why primarying bad Dems is good (have seen similar results with Lipinski so far) If we followed Reddy's advice, no one would ever challenge these people. There's always a threat, always a reason to "wait for later" or to wait for a better opportunity. What's missed with that is that when you keep propping up bad politicians who want to entrench the status quo, those opportunities won't ever even come because you'll be facing backlash from the failure to get what people want done. If whatever blue wave materializes is entirely centrist Dems obsessed with decorum and bipartisanship rather than pushing popular policy and opposing the right ward sprint of the GOP at all costs, people will be all the more frustrated and disillusioned in 2020.

Cuomo actively prevents Dems from being in the majority in NYS and there's no realistic path where someone who doesn't suck as hard as he does (litreally any registered Democrat in the state lol) would lose a general election that Cuomo would win. e: your obsession with Sanders is rearing again so I'm going to duck out

The primary isn't over as you incorrectly stated. The DNC has an explicit stance on not endorsing during primaries that Perez overrode. Cuomo is garbage that works with Republicans to keep Democratics from controlling the Senate in NY. Is there any garbage incumbent dem you wouldn't 100% defend from attacks from the left?

Nixon's been involved with NY politics for year. Trashing Cuomo is good and should be encouraged and done by everyone because he's terrible. A viable challenger to Cuomo is going to "trash [bad] Dems" like Cuomo, so I don't think you actually want a viable challenger. You seem reflexively against any criticism of Democrats from the left. You also didn't acknowledge that your central claim, that the "primary was over," is completely wrong. Perez broke DNC guidelines to endorse Cuomo in the middle of a primary. He did it without informing Ellison ahead of time. Why do that? Why should the progressive base continue to trust him?

Yeah, it's not limited to just him or his administration, though ultimate responsibility for that particular failure *should* rest with the person in charge of it. These allegations are from 2009-2014

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