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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:34 PM) I'll be honest. I don't think he's lying and given how he pitched, I can fully believe he had something bugging him. You can read my posts, I said a hell of a lot that he had just no idea where the ball was going. The stuff was there by and large, but no command, and to be frank, that was so much different then the Humber all of us have watched. REally they only time he ever struggled in a Sox uni for an extended period of time was late last year when he was fatigued after throwing more innings then he ever had in his professional career (and you could see it). So if he is saying this issue really made it difficult to throw strikes, well, to be frank, I believe it, and to also be frank, I wasn't ready to give up on Humber and I'm pretty sure the Sox weren't either. They hadn't given up on Floyd, who had been significantly worse, so I don't think they were about to give up on Humber for Axelrod (for Danks, maybe, they'd have done something), but not in this situation. Gavin has actually been about 15-20% better than Humber, and Gavin has been really bad. That just shows you how bad Humber has been. I don't disagree with him having some medical malady they can point to for the purposes of the DL, but I "am guessing" that this had a lot more to do with Humber sucking ass than Humber feeling pain. And given that he gets 4-5 days rest between starts anyway, I have a hard time believing that this is something that is going to magically disappear in 8-10 days.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:28 PM) Good I encourage you to keep holding me accountable. I'm just far more persistent in that area as you'll find out. It's not about accountability, it's about having a personal agenda, which you clearly have. It's pretty obvious that the rest of the board doesn't care to wade through this nonsense, so why don't you try to withhold your anal retentive and vindictive side to a minimum, whenever possible.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:28 PM) I'm guessing it's a partial truth. I'd say it's something that may have cleared up on its own, but was just kind of nagging and with the way he's been pitching it isn't worth it to push anything. They probably felt this way about Danks until he really didn't heal up. Let's face it, you could come up with some injury for every player in the League at this point...so yes, I don't doubt that he has some nagging injury, just like every other player on the roster. Do we think he would be on the DL if he was still pitching like he was in his first 15 starts last year?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:26 PM) So the White Sox are going to put a guy on the DL with a phantom injury, when they have nothing to really replace him with? I could understand if Danks was ready. But the Sox are going to take a guy like Humber, who was very good for the club last year, started the year strong, and as a whole has pretty good stuff, to replace/give up on him, for Dylan Axelrod? That makes no sense to me. Maybe if it was to give some time off for Danks, but not for Axelrod. Humber had a legit injury, when it started, I don't know, but lets not act like the Sox had better options. I'm assuming they tried to have him pitch through it, hoping it would work out and he'd get better, but he didn't. Worse yet, they didn't get Danks back so they finally had to make the decision to sit him and let him get better. They do have better options. Almost ANYONE would be a better option right now. He has an ERA of over SIX. That is as bad as it gets in the Major Leagues. So how can you tell me they have no one to replace him? If he really has some legit injury, I doubt he would be back anytime soon...and yet, you usually don't see players retroactively designated unless there is a pretty strong belief that they will be back be asap. It seems a bit odd that they would do that, but you never know. Baron says he has some info which says Humber will be out for quite some time, so we'll have to see.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) you're* I honestly wouldn't pick on him for this s***, but I've seen him go after others for the same thing, so he deserves it.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:14 PM) Sure if I make a definitive statement without the full knowledge of the situation go right ahead. I encourage you to do that. You said Orlando Hudson cannot throw to first. Now using your standard, that is a definitive statement which is obviously absurdly false, as I saw him make many throws to first tonight. If you are going to hold my statements to an absurd level of literalism, you are a far worse offender than I am.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:14 PM) Here's a couple more from you. How anyone could ever think you posted anything close to Paulie not knowing the rules is crazy. I apologize. Seriously? It's the most basic rule he should know. If the runner has not yet touched first, I can touch the base rather than tag him. Give me a break. Ozzie Guillen...he never managed to teach PK the rules... Then answer the question? You both can't seem to answer why if he knew that he could touch the base, and that was clearly the most obvious and simple way to record the out after he missed the tag, why did he choose run right past it in an effort to tag the player on the OTHER SIDE of it? Seriously, do you have that much reverence for this guy that you would go to these lengths to defend him? So he had a brain fart...big deal...lost us the game. It happens. And btw, if you are going to quote s***, why don't you quote all the things I said? Instead of just pulling things out of context to suit your ridiculous fantasy.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) He said in the article he thinks unless your arm is broken you go out there and pitch. His answer seemed completely reasonable. Either way there was clearly something wrong and he needs some time to work it out. Right, because I am sure he would tell the writer that the reason he was really DL'd is because he is sucking ass and we need a roster spot. But we'll never know, because we're not Phil Humber.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:10 PM) I have absolutely no idea. You know why? Im not Paul Konerko. There isnt only one possible answer because you dont have the full story. Hah...ok, so I guess from here on out, I get to ridicule every opinion you have of anything you are not involved in because you are not them. Pathetic.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) Yes apparently you "light them up" just like you did yesterday with your compelling argument. I have no idea why he didnt step on the bag is the point. Neither do you. Its just an assumption to say he is unaware of the rules. Which is what I have been saying from the start. Well what would your suggestion be, Baron? That he didn't want to get the out? That he wants to lose games? That he is getting paid on the side to make ridiculously stupid plays? The only possible answer is that it did not occur to him that he could do that, because he was damn sure looking at him when he ran 3-feet around the bag.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) I would have really liked this to be a 1-1 game. If only our 3rd baseman could throw to 1st. Here's your response: Or our 1b could be aware of the rules Ok, so using you and your sidekick's logic here, Baron must be also stating that Hudson "literally" cannot throw to 1st base, which is clearly false. My response was using the same type of sarcasm. Jeesh, you both are really coming off as weak with this nonsense.

And again, why don't you use context? The quote you're using was clearly one made in jest in response to you ripping on Hudson.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 10:00 PM) Yeah I was told I have a terrible understanding of the English language when I was hired as a Sports Writer. The best part of that paragraph is you start to say he isnt but then say that doesnt mean the samething. Sort of trying to hit both points to cover your bases. Clever but futile. I eat sports writers for breakfast. There is a clear distinction in saying someone is not aware of something and saying they don't know something. If he was aware of the rule at that moment, I ask you again, why did he not just step on or tag the base? I made a play very similar to that one in the second grade where I knew I could just touch the base with my glove instead of trying to step on the bag or tag the runner. It would have been nice had PK done the same thing.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:54 PM) Its 10 at night and I finished with my articles. My work day is done. Oh I will And no, you didn't post context, as usual.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) "Or our 1b could be aware of the rules" woops Yes, and he clearly wasn't. If he was, why did he not touch or tag the base? Is saying he could be aware of the rules the same as saying he does not know the rules? Clearly not the same. You have a terrible understanding of the english language.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:49 PM) Im pretty sure you did actually...now I gotta go dig that up. By all means...you certainly have nothing more important to do. And when you do find it, do me the courtesy of actually providing the context in which I posted it for once.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:49 PM) It was interpreted as you stating PK doesn't know the rules because you posted PK doesn't know the rules. No, I may have said that in jest after you and your sidekick came to the infallible one's rescue, but I clearly asked several times why he didn't step on the bag. You made excuse after excuse for him until you realized you were wrong. Then of course you turned my comments into something they were not, in an effort to save face. What new?

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:47 PM) quit assuming bro PK knows the rules, he just doesn't like taking the easy way out Exactly. He is the Chuck Norris of the White Sox

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:47 PM) They showed the stat line of him hitting .316 with 2 HR over the previous 10 games. Yeah, but he's come up in some extremely key situations and had a very, very poor AB in almost everyone except for the 2-run homer to center several games ago.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:44 PM) A complete assumption is what I would call that. I never actually said he doesn't know the rules of baseball. I questioned why he didn't just step on the bag. He clearly had a brain fart. All I was pointing out was that his mental gaffe was more disturbing to me than Orlando's. DA and yourself are the posters who interpreted that as me stating PK doesn't know the rules. And in that instance, please tell me why he didn't just step on the bag?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:42 PM) Pot. Kettle. Black. Ahh, the Thompson Twins are back again! Dick, there is usually one issue I argue with you about for the most part. The reason it happens so often is only because you have an unhealthy obsession with the finances of the White Sox. If you choose to interpret that as me having anything against you personally, that's your ill-informed choice.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:41 PM) I have no agenda. I always remember the stupid crap people say. You just happen to say it more often than most. That was one of the more memorable ones. It was the blatant truth. The base was sitting right there for him to step on, and he ran right past it to try and tag a runner coming back to the other side of it. What the hell would you call it?

QUOTE (SouthSidePride05 @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:40 PM) Love your avatar. Always makes me chuckle even when the Sox lose. Hah, you should have seen me the first time I saw him do that. Scared the s*** out of me. Someone actually contacted me today asking if he was available for stud service. I said "He is neutered, but I am available."

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) Good news for us. We've got plenty of other pressing needs. I'll be happy when he goes elsewhere.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) That and apparently he doesnt know Major League baseball rules right? There you go with your agenda again. Why don't you drop your hard on for me and move on with your life. It's pathetic.