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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) Complain about the pass protection if you must...but 17 carries, 118 yards, 1 TD for Forte, 4 carries, 42 yards, 1 TD for Barber, in about 35 minutes, doesn't happen if the line isn't controlling the game. They've been run blocking all year long...and everyone seems to realize this but Martz...until now.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) Which means...for the North Side team in particular...rebuilding will cut it in Chicago. The team on the south side...rebuilding is a lot riskier in terms of revenue loss. Well that's what I was referring to...I guess something got lost in translation.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 01:35 PM) JMO...the team on the North Side has less talent on the field and in the system, with more money invested to get there. Possibly, but they've shown a much greater ability to generate revenues with mediocre or bad products on the field than the White Sox have, which is likely what you'd be enduring during any rebuild.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 12:21 PM) The longer the team on the north side thinks "Rebuilding won't cut it in Chicago" the worse off they'll be. Why the team on the north side? They're the ones drawing 3 million a year, not the team on the south side.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) I check in and the score is 7-2? Yeah, Forte got stuck behind the line and there was just no way out...he never had a chance.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) Pujols should have blown off the media again last night. Just to be consistent. Also, he did it last time and then he had a great game. lol. To me, St. Louis is the better team. Especially with Hamilton not at 100%. LaRussa also is a better manager than Washington. Guess we already know who won the three-way trade between the White Sox, BJs, and the Cards. But I am starting to think that Toronto got the worst end of the trade....Mark Teahen..haha! And everybody was saying that AA won that trade. haha! Joe Buck, who does some play-by-play for the Cardinals during the season, made some pretty damning remarks about Colby during the game the other day...just mentioning how much better off the Cardinals are without Colby's bs in the Clubhouse anymore. For Buck to mention it during the WS game, it must have been pretty ugly in there at times.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) I haven't watched a single game of Clemson this year but are they really that good or do they benifet from being in the ACC? Both. And they aren't making all the typical Clemson-ish mistakes that they make year after year after year.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) What's a good, British drink? I want to make something special for today's game... off to Google, I guess! Just go get a 12 pack of Newcastle...

The Rangers very seldomly lose 2 games in a row. Expect them to tie this up tonight.

Not so loud guys...Russ is hungover

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) Blackmon, Jeffery, and Floyd will all be first rounders, with a couple other guys who are fringe 1/2 like Broyles. I'd say there's a good chance Floyd could fall to the Bears assuming their somewhere in the middle of the pack. I'm also a fan of AJ Jenkins. If Floyd was available to them and they passed, I think it'd be a huge mistake. I think Floyd is going to be an elite NFL WR. Unfortunately I don't think they will be...if they win this weekend, I think they end up winning 10 games and pick in the low twenties somewhere. Either way, they're such a mess at so many positions they should have an easy time picking someone that can make an impact next season.

I'll bet it's more like Jerry's bank account starts recovering instead.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) I think you've hit on the 2012 marketing slogan. "The 2012 White Sox: How can so much s*** possibly go wrong again?"

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) I think it was kind of funny that Punto blew that bunt when Buck spent the entire at bat admiring Punto for learning the fundamentals under Gardenhire. To be fair though, despite not getting that bunt down, Punto has played well in the first two games.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 11:23 AM) It seems like the location of the pitch is more of a factor than the speed. Well, when you're bunting in that situation you're simply trying to advance the runner from 1st to 2nd. You've got to know that a walk accomplishes the same thing. So even if you're going to bunt, you've got to make him throw strikes, which are generally in an area which makes the pitch easier to bunt.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) As I recall from my limited playing time and just listening to old timey players talk about it, fastballs are actually the hardest pitch to bunt. They're coming in extremely fast and because they don't have downward movement and instead stay generally flat, the tendency to pop them up increases extraordinarily, especially when they are above the belt. On top of that, major leaguers are great at locating pitches so they can put them generally wherever they want and you will see players jabbing at it, which also makes it difficult as well. It's not always an easy task which is why even a fundamentally sound player like Punto can f it up pretty easily like that. That seems a bit counterintuitive to me. Every pitch a mlb pitcher throws is extremely fast. It seems as though one thrown generally straight would allow one to position his bat to hit the top half of the ball a bit better than it would be to hit a ball that is sinking or swerving at a much greater rate, despite it's relatively decreased velocity. I think more of what we're witnessing is a lack of fundamentals brought on by the $ that can be potentially earned by doing the much more sexier things, like hitting home runs and driving in runs. The fundamentals simply aren't instilled the way that they used to be back before the salaries went through the roof, and that includes baserunning, bunting, advancing runners, etc. Combine that with the position taken by followers of advanced metrics who have very outspokenly argued against the bunt in all but the most limited of situations, and you have far less organizations emphasizing the bunt and far less players learning how to effectively do it. All that being said, I am sure it is hard as s*** to bunt a 98 mph fastball in 40 degree weather in a huge situation in the WS.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 11:08 AM) No, they're not in the least in that bad of shape. However, you're probably right...Kenny would never say "I'll take anything I can get for Danks and Quentin." It's also a bit difficult to take prospects several years away when he probably feels quite a bit of pressure to start showing results now, rather than down the road.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 09:58 AM) Also remember...the Bears don't need a guy who steps in and becomes Randy Moss immediately. They have a solid QB who can work with the WR over several years and let him develop too. If he's not crippled in several years...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) That's not what he says though. He basically admits that he's going to be shopping people but for an MLB-ready return...but not everyone, unless he decides they don't have the talent to compete for a championship (a decision presumably based on the return in his first parts). Hey, I'm just trying to figure out what Marty is thinking...

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) Williams states that he will move his guys for major league ready talent only, and then in the second paragraph states that he'll have to see what teams are willing to give up and that they may have to trade today's talent for tomorrow's talent, implying somehow that he is trading for A or AA players. I don't believe that to be the case but rather that he's simply suggesting that he is trading today's currently good players for tomorrow's currently good players, but tomorrow's currently good players are still major league ready talent. Well he very clearly qualifies that by saying "If it turns out that we were wrong, then..."

Greg, you ruin every thread for me that you post in. I don't get involved in the discussions you participate in the majority of the time because they become so incredibly ridiculous and inane that I can't tolerate the level of stupidity for more than a few seconds at a time. Sometimes I even play a game where I try to find a reason to support your argument, just for the challenge of debating a position that is virtually impossible to defend, but I ultimately give up every time because I then realize I will never get those precious moments of my life back. I even debated whether it was worth it to waste the time it has taken me to type this post, but every time someone writes a post like this to you I have a slight glimmer of hope that it will knock some sense into you. I guess this is my attempt.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 10:38 AM) Um...how? My guess is he is referring to Kenny saying he wasn't going to be shopping our players, and then later stated he won't know the direction we'll be going in until he sees what other teams want to offer us for our players at the Winter Meetings. The distinction Kenny would obviously make is that he isn't shopping anyone, but he is always willing to listen.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 21, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) I'd have to imagine a safety or corner would be the bears first pick. If a real beast wr/olb fall to them I could see that being taken too. There are a lot of good WR's that could possibly come out next year, so I am hoping we might have an elite WR fall to us. Safeties are usually fairly plentiful, so I see us using later picks on that position. CB is another option, as not only do we need a #2 CB, but Peanut is starting to grow a little long in the tooth.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 21, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) I really don't get the hate on Kreutz. Jesus, everyone's so quick to flame. He did f***ing walk away. He could have collected a paycheck all year long. He was tired of looking like an idiot and left a lot of money on the table. Yeah, what he did with the Bears was ill-advised... blame (and thank) his agent. Kreutz deserves nothing but praise for being a good soldier and a truly elite player at his position for more than a decade. Man, I really hate how reactionary and negative everyone is to players at the end of their careers. It'd be f***ing hard for me to admit that I now sucked after many years of being awesome, too. Obviously...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 21, 2011 -> 08:36 AM) To be honest, they have had plenty of respectability over the last 10 to 15 years. They have won divisions and wild cards, and been competitive for the most part. When it comes to them getting the brass ring, yes I scoff, because I have 103 years of history on my side. We get this big fix every few years that is going to put them over the top and end the drought. It never happens. They've won divisions, but the years they haven't been competitive they've lost 90 games quite a few times. I don't follow the Cubs enough to really know the real reason they seem to be so hot and cold (cold more often than hot), but bringing in a solid management team, rather than just throwing money at FA's seems to be a really solid first step. Not saying they are going to suddenly turn in to some powerhouse on the field, but I certainly think their chances of doing that are better than before they made this set of moves.