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QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) Blah The sad thing is, I do feel like the game is lost now.

Hard to believe these are the same guys that started out the season with a 14-0 lead just a month ago...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:40 PM) the celtics would not give the bulls permission to interview thibs until after the playoffs, and the bulls wanted to hire before the end of the playoffs. a waste of rose's first two years imo. Well was there any truth to the rumor that the only reason we even hired him was because WWW told us to? I remember reading that the FO didn't even necessarily care for Thibs...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2011 -> 01:35 PM) That'd translate to ~ an era of 4.6. Which wouldn't lead one to believe you would be 3-14 over that stretch....which leads to the point ssi made....the offense is horrendous.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:30 PM) Hell, just judging by his first AB most games, you can see if he's going to have a good or bad day. If he strikes out on a bad pitch in his first AB, you can be pretty confident he's going to struggle the rest of the game. Yeah, he has to be more mentally tough than that (as much as I hate the phrase).

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) Eh, I call them the same thing, but bottom line is that he has to figure out a way to shorten these stretches. I guess we just look at it differently. You're talking about shortening something that is 2 months long to 4 -6 games...I think that is barking up the wrong tree. I think he's got to figure out a way to completely avoid this...whatever it is.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) Now foghorn is trying to put the blame on the late inning runs. Let's gloss over the pile of s*** that is our offense. Yeah, they were talking about that yesterday...how we have given up 43 runs or something in the 7/8/9 innings in 28 games. Personally, I don't think that is outstanding, but I didn't think it was some outrageous number either.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 1, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Well, it shows that the player either cannot learn how to break a slump in short enough time to truly become a good player, or the coach has failed to help him out of these slumps faster. These are not slumps, Russ. Slumps are like 3-37 stretches. These are periods of months at a time.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) I don't think he's going to be a AAAA player, but I'm not sure that he's going to be this stud we've all been believing he'd be. In fact, I'm getting quite sure of that. And it's hard to disagree with you. But it won't be because he wasn't as talented as we thought he was. It will be because something is not quite right upstairs...

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 01:11 PM) Like I said, good stretches. He hasn't had a great year yet, though. And with as bad as he's been so far, it probably won't happen this season either. I'm not arguing about the length of time, I'm arguing about the quality of those stretches. He's shown in two separate years (the only two he's played thus far), that he can play at an all star level for extended periods of time. That indicates this isn't a case of him being a AAAA player, or having some fatal flaw that wasn't exposed until he reached the major leagues, or even the league adjusting to him and him being unable to overcome that adjustment. This reeks of something else...and I don't think it has anything to do with Greg Walker or expectations that are too high. He's meeting those expectations for long enough stretches of time to show that he is capable of what the expectations are.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 01:00 PM) He's not been some stud. He's had good stretches, as you said. I think Steve was right when he said that we probably need to reevaluate our projections for Beckham. Well, he put up an .877 OPS Post ASB last year. That's all-star caliber for an MI. He put up OPS's of over .900 in July and September of '09. Again, all star caliber for an MI.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) First night on campus in about 5 months, went hard and spent a ton of money even though it was $1 wells. WHen the bar closed at 2am I was ready for the club, oh Europe, I miss you. You can always move to the Ukraine with Cangelosi...

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:52 AM) Oh, well when you put it that way! I'm glad we can just ignore his career in the majors. Well, he has had sustained success in this league...I actually started replying earlier to Cangelosi's post in re: Walker ruining Gordo, but I couldn't really argue that, since he has put together stretches of 2-3 months where he's hit at an all-star level. That's not the league "adjusting" to his approach and exposing fatal flaws. It seems to me that this is more of a mental problem.

Quite a bit surprised by the start Memphis has gotten off to against OKC today. I am not among those who believe Memphis is all that great. Of course, this is one of the downsides of all that young talent OKC has....inconsistency.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) Thibodeau to be awarded Coach of the Year award this afternoon according to ESPN "sources" Yeah, the Bulls scheduled a presser for a "major announcement" at the Berto Center.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:49 AM) One reason why I was such a big proponent of signing Lee over Konerko, since it would only be a one year commitment (obviously Lee has not been good at all so far). Im also sick of the leadership that Konerko and Buehrle bring to the team, it would have been nice to have some fresh voice in the dugout. Yeah, you and I were in agreement about Lee. And I brought up the PK/MB thing yesterday in terms of leadership...you have to start wondering if that is the common denominator here...

QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:45 AM) And Rios and AJP. I'm fine with the Dunn/Konerko part taking up 26 million or whatever. I at least think they can put up better than average numbers. It's paying 30 million for two possible non-factors in Rios/Peavy that bloat our payroll. Oh man, I forgot about Rios. That's $55 million for 4 players, and $71 million if you add in AJ/Crain/Thornton.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:34 AM) This is a semi-serious question. If May goes even remotely as April did, do the Sox pull the "All In" campaign? It really is becoming a joke. Absolutely. I'm not sure it will even last that long if this continues. The scary thing is I don't even have a clue what the solution is. I am not in Chicago, and so I think I get a more nationally-based perspective than most of you guys, who get the local perspective, and the national commentators think we'll come out of this funk. But if we don't, I don't know what the answer is. I have no idea what we do, other than just completely blow the entire thing up. But as DA has pointed out, you're still going to most likely be stuck with Peavy/Dunn/Konerko/next year....that's a $45 million payroll just between those three guys...this could get REALLY ugly if they don't snap out of this.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) Lol. I miss Jan, Feb, March when I was the board demon. It's no fun anymore. J4L, I love you to death, but why do you keep saying this? Are you upset that you're not the center of attention, or are you trying to not so subtley make the point that all your warnings are becoming reality?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2011 -> 07:57 AM) Beckham will be fine, as to the rest, its a good thing the majority of Soxtalk posters aren't GMs. You would be forced to have a payroll of about $25 million, because all all the money you would be paying players you released and other personnel you fired. As has always been said, the baseball season is a marathon. There is so much that can and will happen by the end of the year. Some you are all calling bums still will be bums, some you are calling bums you'll want KW to sign to a long extension by the end of the year. I don't find anything wrong with being upset. If you're a fan of this team, you should be upset, but realize while maybe this team isn't going to be good enough to win the WS, we don't know that yet, there is even a smaller chance they are as bad as they have shown. Matt Thornton broke 2 bats and struck a guy out yesterday and the result was 1 run in runners on 2nd and 3rd with no out. He got booed off the field. s*** happens. Unfortunately for us, its happening almost everyday to the White Sox. Very well said. For as much s*** as Jay Mariotti took around here, many of the posters here have the same trigger finger as he does.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 1, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) I do honestly think we all need to adjust our projections for Gordon. How do you even project this guy? His performance seems to fluctuate between career minor leaguer to all-star with not much in between. If he pulls this first half/second half dichotomy again, I'm going to just suggest he spend next April - June in the Hamptons...

QUOTE (High Mileage @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) KC working the Twins again... If nothing else, at least I can take solace in the Twins sucking every bit as us thus far this season...

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2011 -> 08:39 AM) Lol. This s*** is hilarious. I dominated the off-season with my "pessimism". Now I'm not even in the top 10 for most pessimistic posters. I don't mind pessimism...it's sheer ignorance that pisses me off.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 09:25 PM) Adam Dunn again had a chance to save the Sox tonight. Bases loaded with nobody out I believe. Close game. He again strikes out. How many times can this guy fail? I didn't notice on TV how many boos he got for that stellar at bat. He should have been booed off the field. I mean guys ... how long are we going to wait before we deem this guy an utter failure?? He is as bad a hitter as I've ever seen. Did you not learn anything last year? Do you not realize that performance can fluctuate? I'm not happy with the way the guy is playing either, but I doubt he is going to suddenly turn in to "as bad a hitter as I've ever seen." Do you think his career numbers are a hoax? That he wasn't really producing those numbers, but no one ever noticed because they weren't watching? And only now, that a bloodhound like yourself is on the scent, has he been discovered for the tremendous fraud that he is? I swear, some of you have the attention span of a goldfish.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:53 AM) By this logic, the manager should NEVER be fired! You cannot fire the players, Kenny isn't going anywhere until after the season (as much as I'd love for him to be fired too) and you also cannot just sit there as the "all in" season burns to the ground long before Memorial Day. Somebody is going to take the fall if this doesn't turn around fast, and the only way it'll get the players attention at all is if it's Ozzie. Do I think it'll make a difference? Probably not. I think the end game here is a new manager and Rick Hahn as the GM on opening day of 2012. But, the team can't just give up like I already have. He said make a case for Ozzie, so I did. Honestly, I do blame the players for the most part. There is just only so much a manager can do...but I do think that these periods of corpseball have to be a reflection on someone or something that goes on in our clubhouse. I know I am one of Kenny's biggest fans, so maybe I am biased in regards to that, but I have a really hard time finding much blame with his work. I think he consistently puts teams out there that have the ability to win this division...at some point the players have to play and earn their paychecks.