JUSTgottaBELIEVE

I like it personally. Last winter I suggested the Sox consider doing the same with Giolito if they don’t think they can extend him but only if they get a haul in return. This looks like a haul for the Indians for 2+ Years of Clevinger.

That organization is something. Tied for first place and somehow don’t lose much this year while also improving significantly in future years.

At least no Gore but looks like they’re getting some nice depth for their org retool.

Going to be really upset if the Indians landed Gore in this deal.

Completely fine with me

Are we talking Giolito pitching to McCann or Giolito pitching to anyone else? Because they’re two different guys.

It is what it is but I’d sure rather have Ryu than Grandal right now. Then we wouldn’t be talking about starting pitching at all.

What if fathom is Not Steve Cishek???

They got him for two 50 FV prospects last offseason. And yes he’s off to a nice start this season but he also now has just 1 season and 1 month of control left so the price tag shouldn’t be any higher than that. Something like Stiever and Thompson/Adolfo should get it done. Yes please.

Marte shouldn’t cost much.

I wanted Marte last offseason so I’d love this. Definitely an upgrade from Mazara and he answers your RF hole for next season as well.

McCann beast mode

Or the out to prove something effect. I think he’s still irked they signed Grandal.

Bullpen is good enough if the Sox had another high end starting pitcher.

I would agree if the OBP was largely attributed to a high batting average. Like a guy that hits .300 with a .350 OBP is much more valuable to me than a guy that hits .240 with a .350 OBP.

They’re only 1.5 GB from the blue jays for #8 seed.

That might explain it and would explain a lot to me too because I value OPS over some outsized weighting to wOBA. This makes much more sense than simply “framing” for the huge disparity in his WAR values over the years. Also reaffirms my opinion that fWAR has consistently overrated his value.

I agree that Grandal is “good” but he’s been billed as “great” to which I have disagreed.

My question was why is his fWAR so inflated if he’s essentially an average farmer this season? I was previously told the difference in a catcher’s bWAR and fWAR is due to framing.

So explain this to me then. Why is his bWAR only 0.2 while his fWAR is 0.8? If his framing is barely above average why such the disparity? I’m not sure there is another player in baseball that fangraphs overrates more, honestly.

Are his framing statistics elite again this season? Because I sure haven’t noticed a difference when he’s catching

Because Ricky is an idiot. I have no other explanation.

Said it this morning. Why is this dude catching a day game after catching a 4 hour marathon last night?

Someone explain to me again why Grandal is catching again today?

Has happened repeatedly already during this short season. If it continues into the playoffs, it could cost them a series.