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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) Better team: 85 Bears Better season: 85 Bears Better remembered: 72 Dolphins Better team: 85 Bears (86 Bears Defense was better btw) Better season: 72 Dolphins Better remembered: 72 Dolphins Better Overall History: Cowboys I would also factor in the pressure each of staying undefeated. Every team down the stretch wanted to be "the team" there was the media circus, etc. I think the Bears may have benefited from not having to deal with that.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 05:40 PM) "That's an excellent question" "I respect Senator Clinton, I respect anyone that gets the nomination of the Democrat Party."

I guess I should say I value Beowulf so far down the list of great books that Bugs Bunny in the lead role would have been a better movie than book.

At least they weren't assholes and left the pet behind

Do we have fans of the book here?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) Wasn't Coleman always regarded as a bit of a "loon"? He was zany when zany was in. Happy News Time. Upbeat and all that. He would even stand on his head.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) This IS the guy who started the Weather Channel. Just a side note. He was the first GM, but it seems he was never more than an employee. Landmark actually founded the station. Coleman was out in less than a year.

We do realize that weathermen do not study long term climate change? Just making certain we're all on the same page. And I'm not even certain he is a meteorologist. So the debate goes on, and an aged personality, now reduced to an independent tv station in California, get one last drink from the Fame Chalice

Private email exchange between a music critic and a crack smoking ex-mayor? GMAB

From my buddy John.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) Well played. King of Beers my curvy pink butt. FlaSoxxJim in Prince of Tides II: The King of Beers couldn't resist

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 02:57 PM) Maybe we disagree here because I saw the film before I read the book. A great book like Catch-22 almost defies adaptation, but I felt like the film did a good job with it. It's been a while. Maybe I should refresh my memory. Perhaps you were watching the movie version of M*A*S*H Two movies coming out from books that I am waiting to see, and my predictions: I Am Legend is in my favorite Top 10 list of all time. It will suck as a movie to the fans of the book. Although I love the irony of Will Smith in the title role. Beowulf the movie will be waaaay better then the book. The book is only a classic because it is the oldest surviving story in Old English.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) I think a lot of these films would be worthy of assigning in a film appreciation class. But, then again, you just know some of the students would cheat and be lazy and just read the books instead of actually watching the movies . . . I Kid Tex Because I Care® well played. Nice to see the old man still has it. Of course they would have to toss in some porn to "challenge" the students. I Kid Jim Because I Care®

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 12:36 PM) I was born in Ireland, came over when I was one years old, I am the first generation immigrant. We are the first to come here, the rest of my family is still there. I used to go there at least once a year, when I was little for 2 months in the summer. Now with a family of my own, we go about once every few years. We are going back this summer, it will be the first time my kids are going. This was a point in one of my classes last week. Looking at the immigrant stories of Ellis Island and Angel Island, are so different. Then you compare it with immigrants from our southern border who can be "back in the old country" with a 2 hour drive for weekends. Or, were here when the border changed and suddenly had the choice of moving and staying Mexican or staying and becoming American. You are one of the lucky ones, at least in my opinion. You could retain some sense of knowing your ancestral roots.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 09:54 AM) Jaws. The movie was much better than the book. The book had a ridiculous affair between Hooper and Brody's wife. The scene where Quint talks about the USS Indianapolis, which I liked, was not in the book. Jaws sequels were horrendous, but no matter, the original was a real good movie. The book, for me anyway, was disappointing. Bingo, that was the first one I thought of. Did you see the making of Jaws extra? Spielberg wanted a scene where the harbor master was washing out a coffee mug at the dock. As they pan away you see one by one, sails starting to rocking until all of them are rocking. It was decided the scene would have been too expensive to shoot so they went with the guys fishing with the huge beef roast instead.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 12:17 PM) Chickens are not people, The slaughter of chickens cannot be put in the same context as the execution of 6 million people. Peta uses that analogy of the slaughter of chickens as the same as people. Old Ingrid and her ""A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy." mentality doesn't wash with the mainstream. My very poor family in Ireland has been raising sheep and yes eating them for lot longer than this century, my family has been farming and raising sheep for a very long long time. If you were a farmer, or were on a farm most likely you had animals that were used as a food source. How often does your family get back to Ireland? Any first generation immigrants still around?

Prince of Tides and the omnipotent teacher in one corner vs. the citizens of the US in the other. Like YAS mentioned, if you are paying for the truck, you aught to have some input on what it carries. No one should be above scrutiny who cashes a public paycheck.

While we are taking some jumps, I had a funny thought. If this teacher was accused of murdering someone, we would have no problem accepting the assembly of eight citizens, taken at random, to decide if she/he would live or die. But questions their choice of a book!? Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Ordinary citizens could not possibly be entrusted with something that important. You know, just saying.

share the play list . . .

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 04:38 PM) Of course, that's why the apparent handful of intelligent people in Kansas have to put up with the semi-annual attack on the teaching of evolution. So let's just go with it and let the locals call the shots. We won't bother teaching evolution in Kansas and we'll cut all the civil rights chapters room civics classes in the deep south. There's no place for national oversight from the likes of competent trained scientists like those at NSF. If enough mouthbreathers manage to get themselves on the Kansas school board this year then Kansas can be the state that shows us just what local control at local schools can do for the students who might otherwise have been forced to suffer an education that would have prepared them to compete favorably with a global workforce. Edit: I used that mouthbreathers dig on purpose just so y'all could haul off on me. I, of course, have the utmost respect for anybody who thinks that we should toss out 150 years of scientific progress because the Bible clearly says we didn't come from no gawd-damn monkeys. Nice jump there. Clearly all those thousands of teachers not using Prince of Tides should also be held to the same scorn and ridicule? This is about the tool that is used to teach AP English. That is different than not teaching AP English at all. If the Board of Education upholds their decision to remove the work, the only thing that will not be taught is anal sex. Perhaps that it a terrible injustice in your book. Tell me, if the book was removed from a national list, you would be OK with that? And since this book is so important, what would you do with a 16 year old who is eligible to take AP English? The movie, which was fairly close to the book is R-Rated. A 16 year old could not see the movie, should he be allowed to read the book?

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 09:53 AM) So if you are so concerned about what school your High School senior will be attending the next year, and want to challenge them to be a successful student and learn to think critically, why on earth would you challenge a curriculum based on one scene in one book that the class is required to read? What changes between someone's senior year in high school and freshman year in college that makes "The Prince of Tides" so heinous? What happens when all of a sudden, the college professor requires your kid to read Tropic of Cancer? I think we have to define challenging and how different works become "challenging". If Prince of Tides is only challenging because of these scenes, then that is a problem. If a book can be circumvented by watching a movie, that is a problem. What difference does 16 to 17 make in what movies they can watch? Society sets rules, has thresholds. Can some kids drive well at 14? Should some kids wait until 18? We set the legal age at 16. Same with drinking, voting, you name it. One rational is kids hear this or worse in the hallways. Shouldn't education raise them up, not sink to their level? Imagine a teacher telling a student, hey n****, your answers were so ghey. It's absurd of course, but if a teacher hands them a book that is similarly "challenging", what are we teaching? But the central issue is this, the Board of Education stepped in and removed the book. Their process is continuing. I would be on the side of the teacher in assigning this work, but I would also be supporting the process, not calling the other parents attention whoring, ignorant, hardon, rubes. And if their process does result in the teacher assigning other works, I do not think the students will be any less challenged by the work. Plenty of other school districts have managed to teach AP English without Prince of Tides. Parents and students that feel that strongly about the value of reading that book can still go to the library and check it out, but it at Amazon, or borrow it from a friend. Local control at local schools.

QUOTE(NUKE @ Nov 11, 2007 -> 10:08 AM) All is well. Too well for my taste as my latest entry indicates, but I've just been having trouble finding stuff to write about these days. That's a good thing.

I think remaining unbeaten is a bigger feat than the 18 > 17 argument. The argument is all about loses, not wins. Now lesser teams can accomplish more, there are over achievers. Comparing those two and I'd take the Bears, but I'm bias and was obviously older when the Bears made their run. With both the Dolphins and the Bears their team the next year were arguably better than the team that won the Super Bowl. Plus, many football fans begin thinking when a team hit 10-0 or better, maybe this team can go upbeaten like the Dolphins, not many are thinking, I wonder if they can win 18 like the Bears. So give the Dolphins their due. It was a big accomplishment at the time and I would cut those guys some slack. Imagine Shula, all he did in his career and 30 years later, the only thing anyone wants to talk about is that one team. He has probably answered that question a thousand times.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 12:32 AM) Everybody knows that the good guys lost Beaten by the Queen of Hearts every time. Don't you draw the Queen of Diamonds, she'll break you every time. You know you know the Deuce is still wild. Revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night. And I've got such a long way to go, to make it to the border of Mexico Like a bat out of hell I'll be gone when the morning comes Come spend the night inside my sugar walls And the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls. I've built walls, a fortress deep and mighty. Yet I swear I see my reflection some place so high above this wall. Way up in the air in my beautiful balloon Gonna get high as a kite by then She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie, cocaine