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QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 10:10 PM) As usual, you are so way over the top it almost isn't humorous. Your point is noted. But don't you find something just a little odd about a country that b****es constantly that we should let their immingrants into our country restriction free, but yet goes to Tex-like extremes at keeping immigrants OUT of their country, including using the military on their southern border? I always spell this wrong, but hypocracy comes to mind. I find it odd that anyone would think that the laws of the US and a third world country should be the same. Each country has different needs, different budgets. In Mexico, maquiladoras (manufacturing plants) are required to provide transportation, a Doctor, and meals. It's what they need, it would not work in the US. One could say the US is hypocritical for providing foreign aid like food and medicine but will not enact laws to provide the same for their own workers.

We should follow Mexico's leads. They did not authorize a border wall, so we shouldn't either. They also ban guns, so we should also. Who cares what is best of the US, we need to pattern our laws after Mexico's laws. Clearly they are a great role model for us.

QUOTE(max power @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 08:28 PM) Will tori hunter be an all star caliber CF in 4 years? Possibly not, but if the All-Star caliber guys are making $21 mil per year, Hunter may look like a bargain at $15. You know the reasoning, someone will say I I'd rather take Hunter at $15 than ABC at $21

In four years, what will all-star center fielders be making?

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) Did you even read the link: Indictments come at the drop of a hat. I guess the Black Sox were convicted no questions asked because they had an indictment against them. Oh wait no they didnt. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1446555 A lot of people are going to be sad when Bonds is not guilty, whats funny is none of the legal experts on ESPN seem to think that its such a slam dunk. Most are saying its a hard conviction and very strange it took so long, and that relying entirely on Anderson may be risky. Do you even care that he has used steroids?

Funny that some people do not care he's guilty, only if he can be convicted.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) (my poem: inspired by jim and his clearly LSD induced poem about finding love in all the wrong places) this I'd expect from Southsider or the Kap(tain) but I must admit it got me a-laughin' The more I did think, the label was never fitter It's like having first try at the pick of the litter... Indeed there are many things that people can mutter but 'tis as they say, "there goes Jim, the pumpkin Fu#$er"

So many thoughts. First off, if ex-cons cannot get jobs, they will commit more crimes. So in general I support hiring ex-cons. But I also believe making an "error" on your application should be an immediate adios, you're fired.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 04:35 PM) Convict. We have things like the pound etc to take care of stray animals. If we let people just start shooting cats, dogs, etc, where does it end? It is legal in Texas to shoot ferel cats. Just like shooting hogs, deer, javelinas, coyotes, doves, geese, and other animals.

It just gives the Bond's apologists more to apology for. Go away Mr. Bonds.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 03:57 PM) As White Sox fans, I think we are pretty used to this. Money is a big factor even though the White Sox have spent more money than most teams. One bad move makes a bigger difference for the White Sox than for other teams. Just think of Matt Clement. Many here thought he was a perfect fit for the White Sox in 2005, and supposedly the Sox made a competitive offer. If he would have accepted, chances are there wouldn't have been playoffs in 2005 let alone a title, and revenues would have been very different. This team would look a lot different just because of that one move. It does take some of the excitement out of it, but it also shows that spending the money can pay off in the long run if it brings a winner. Who would have thunk 3 years ago the White Sox could put a team on the field that lost 90 games and still drew nearly 3 million. And how do we know that not spending a couple million stopped the 2000 team? It's an impossible argument, based on a huge unknown to the fan, how much could the team actually spend. And I don't think one bad move hurts the Sox more than other teams. Clearly the team can afford a payroll in the top 20% of MLB teams. It's the teams with a $60 mil payroll that can't make mistakes.

http://www.themonitor.com/sections/border/ Just in case anyone is interested in the coverage regarding The Border Wall, where it really matters, on the border.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 03:46 PM) I think it's not discussed because it's obvious Hunter/Rowand/Jones in CF makes the 2008 Sox better than the 2007 Sox. It's not really a discussion that needs debate. Giving one of those players a 7 year deal to play CF is another story, one that is good for 200+ posts..... But for many, the most important difference between the three is money.

Maybe he stays the token REP so the Washington Post can point to him and claim to be balanced.

I really do not want to beat this into the ground, but when we spend 90% of our time worrying about how a player will fit into the payroll, and 10% how they fit on the field, it seems out of whack. We really do not know how much they can spend. The payroll always feels fair, but who knows. I also think it kills the casual fans and kids from becoming avid fans. But hey, debate on. It takes armchair GMing to greater heights, and that's good.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 12:17 PM) While a fair question, it's not that simple, and you know it. I know you don't like hearing about the $ and how much a player is making/worth, but it's part of the game, now more than ever. You can ask the question, "Which guy makes us better" but there are a few different ways to look at it. -This team has payroll restrictions, simple as that. While Hunter could provide better numbers than Rowand, at what cost is he providing them at? Because the Sox have Hunter instead of Rowand, do the Sox have to trade away another expensive piece to pay for the production Hunter is providing? -What about in 2012? 2013? You don't want to think about it now, but there have been numerous threads about how Jose and his contract are basically unmovable right now, and how he is tying up 10 million that can be used elsewhere. Can you imagine the threads about Hunter and his 15+ million that he is making when he is 36? Is that going to make the team better? It's just not that simple of a question. Great reply, I just like to remind people where the team's media coverage really matters. On the back page of the newspaper, not the business section. If you knew the team had higher profits in 2007 than 2005 would you be ?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 01:25 PM) Well if they miss out on the large mix, this is what you will get at soxfest. Hawk at Soxfest "You know who I think is going to have a superstar breakout year, Jerry Owens. I am so glad that Kenny was so wise not to sign a guy to a large crazy contract. I mean I love Aaron Rowand and Torii Hunter is a superstar, but something about speed. You know speed doesnt slump. Stats don't tell the whole story of a players worth. Dont tell me that you hit it, tell me when you hit it. Remember the magical season in 05, what got us there. That would be Scott Podsednik and small ball. I love Ozzieball" I can hear it so well

One year from now and Rove will be just another liberal whore in the media.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 10, 2007 -> 08:24 PM) I think that one was from Jim's retirement village's annual Olympics.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 01:21 PM) My God... Half man, half tree. grrrrrrroooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!

Raking leaves, what a pain tall palm trees, line my lane Cold front blows, down to sixtyfive. Good to be alive my polyphonic prose

CBS sportsline is freaking out. They are sending me three emails a minute with old game starts and finals.