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So we have at least one candidate reading blogs for news. I like that, willing to embrace new world media.

Whoa Jenks if that was a summary of my views, they are wrong. I think we have to realistically look at the economic impact, and realize it is the wages that these jobs pay that determines the negative tax flow. No matter who works the job on the books, they receive more benefits then they pay for. We have to differentiate between business that knowingly hired illegals and those that were duped by forgeries. We have to accept that there are enough jobs out there to absorb these workers. Immigrants also have to accept no jobs, no immigration. To remove millions of trained workers would cripple some businesses, cripple some industries, and cause prices to skyrocket in some key areas like agriculture and housing. IIRC, two areas that people do need.

I think baseball needs to just purge all this at once. Dump as much as they know, get aggressive and put it to bed. The public will get over it. A couple years of this b.s. is the alternative.

http://www.forbes.com/leadership/2007/09/0...0904scouts.html

What do y'all think of the timing of these?

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 12:06 PM) Who was on the better end of these deals? I'd give them credit if they released this guys to make a point but they traded them away and got equal return. Glaus was a salary dump and they got a pretty good return in Hudson. Wasn't Grimsley still active on their roster when he was arrested? Good point, we'd have to look and see if they were dumping or they would have made those trades as a normal part of their business.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 11:33 AM) Well, yeah, sure, but the real question is, How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?? f***ing Ph.D.s BTW, that little exchange is about how my History Prof is trying to teach an on-line course. Any wonder I'm in an email flame war with him?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I would think that is a bi-partisan view.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 10:58 AM) jeez, i should have known to search back a couple of pages for a show that debuted that night... can a mod delete/move this to the other thread so it gets bumped? Done.

^^^^^^^^ I really wish she would go away. BTW, she does not speak for most of the people down here who I personally know, and are pro-immigration reforms that allow undocumented workers to stay and earn legal status.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 09:59 AM) Before everybody breaks an arm patting the D-Backs on the shoulder and giving them kudos, don't forget the one fact that proves they are full of garbage. Luis Gonzalez, he and his 57 home runs, THAT Luis Gonzalez, was the star offensive player of their World Title team and had the game winning hit in game 7. Without his juiced up feats that season, they never even get to the World Series. So let's just slow down here. I know a different group was running things then, but I refuse to give an organization who won a title 6 years ago with a juicer as BY FAR their best offensive player much credit. I think that gives them even more credit. They saw how to win, rejected it, and, if these accounts are true, playing by the rules. I don't think anyone is giving the organization kudos, they are giving the new owners kudos. Small difference usually, but big in this case.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 10:53 AM) It was across all 18 provinces across the entire country of Iraq. They didn't cherry pick the provinces. Your analogy does not work. To be scientifically valid, there must be steps to assure it is a representative sample. A lot of factors, besides geography, must come into play. I'm not saying it wasn't, but I doubt it.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 09:58 AM) Maybe that's a better way of saying that none of them are "presidential" material, but neither is the "dumbass" we have in the White House now. I wouldn't dismiss the camera whore aspect. After thinking about it, the best media whore President was the Teflon King, Reagan. He manipulated the media better than any other public figure in my lifetime. And I think that was a good thing. I value the President as cheerleader. Bring Down This Wall! That was pure media camera whoring and a great sound bite.

QUOTE(juddling @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 10:15 AM) hahahahahaha.....Kanye West went 0 for 5 last night and cried like a little bit*h about it. hahahahahaha Hey Kanye.....you know....an award from a cable staion run by old white guys won't exactly help your "street cred" yo' . Then again...crying about it won't either. hahahahaha great post yo'

Kap is correct in questioning every bit of information especially polls. Bottom line is, it makes perfect sense to me that the average Iraqi does not want a war in their living room. Duh. Pick the worst neighborhood imaginable in the US. Then start bombing it, have an army tossing grenades and other weapons around, and tell me the average citizen will think it's better. They are now living in a war zone with a foreign country controlling their lives. Well duh they are unhappy. Back to the good news - bad news thing. The "out party" always benefits from bad news. Nixon benefited from Vietnam f*** ups. Reagan benefited from Iran seizing hostages. Clinton benefited from Bush problems.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 08:35 AM) If that is true of the D-Backs, then I like them even more. I've been following them a lot the last couple years anyway, they've sort of become my 2nd favorite team. This just reinforces it.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:04 AM) The triple is the most exciting play in baseball. Second most. Inside the park home run

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 09:30 AM) I still cannot see why people say this is a good field of candidates. They are all a bunch of dumbasses and camera whores looking for a chance to make a soundbite. That's it. And basically, the office of president has become nothing but that. I think we have an exciting group of candidates. Lots of star power. I accept they have to be camera whores. I don't think they are dumbasses, but I also don't see a Presidential leadership style out there yet.

Can she just get to the porn movies so I really never have to hear about her? I now have such a huge admiration for Madonna. She managed in this same slutty world and won. Along the way she even managed a tune or two that didn't suck really bad.

I'll bet this was covered in a secret Hollywood briefing It's a long campaign, I'm going to dismiss that one and see what else he says.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 08:13 AM) Pretty much. That's exactly why I do NOT want Guiliani around much past Jan 15th. He's too much of a drama queen. I'm sad to say I agree. He was on my short list of candidates early, but like every candidate so far in this campaign, I've grown colder and colder.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:48 AM) ooooohhhhhhhh, now I see what you were getting at. I think I'm not getting my point across well. I don't think AQ cares one whiff about which party is in power, except for how it effects them directly. They are selfish, if you will. What policies they pursue about gay marriage or what not are ultimately small beans to them. What really effects their world, and what allows them to flourish, is the Iraq War, and to an extent the rest of the U.S. "war on terror" and Middle East policy. In that area, there is a clear difference between the parties, and I think its pretty clear that the GOP stand on staying the course is much more beneficial to AQ's cause than the U.S. pulling out. Exactly. And I'd add, they survive on hate. It is easy to hate someone who just bombed your city and killed your father. Look at the American Civil War. It pitted brother against brother, but it also added soldiers to the same side when, for example, a father was killed. Even if your sympathies were torn, sometimes seeing one side kill a loved one would have you change sides in a hurry. I know that wasn't clear, I hope y'all see the intent.

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 9, 2007 -> 09:17 PM) Exactly. As I said earlier, he's not slutty enough (and again, since you Dems are so damn touchy, that's not an insult, it's just a fact of public opinion now-a-days.) Yep, he needs to grab the Rudy G playbook.