Texsox

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 07:12 PM) It takes courage all right. Takes courage to see the damn thing through. America is a nation of soft-ass pussies. A bunch of pussies who have no stomach to fight against a nasty opponent who would like nothing more than to see American cities burning and its citizens in a panic. You are right that extremists want us to be paranoid and fearful and its a lack of committment to exterminate the threat that undermines us. It does so far more than quibbling about rough interrogation techniques or imperceptable "encroachment" upon civil liberties ever could. LMAO Yet our murder rate is higher than almost every major country. We've killed more people in wars than any civilization in history. I guess we could step up the torture and take over a few countries. You would have been great during the crusades. Rape and pillage the NukeClevland way.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 05:03 PM) Right. And the current going ons in the world are that a s***load of muslims want to see us all dead. I wish you would have been around during the 50s to the 70s when millions of athiests around the world wanted us all dead.

The original comment was we trained and funded these guys. You responded that the fall of the USSR made it worth it. Now we have these guys to contend with and the organizations they created. Combine that with the proliferation of nuclear weapons adds up to a different, but equally dangerous threat. The Soviets also bailed out some of these countries when their crops failed, when famine struck, etc. Now it's all on our dime.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 05:36 PM) The odds of the North Korean population overthrowing the current regime far outweighs the odds of them doing something stupid like using nukes and getting wiped off the map in return. And you also have faith in their security. That the material can not be stolen? I suspect their security would be better than what the USSR had? No corrupt officials willing to sell a nuke to a terrorist group in exchange for millions? Since we are safer today, do we need as large of a military?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 05:27 PM) Enjoy that e-coli. Their new advertising campaign with feature Sam -n- Ella

Yet these backwards people that can't feed themselves have nuclear weapons. I believe someone with nothing to lose is far more dangerous than someone with everything to lose. I wonder how much the next bin laden would pay for a nuke.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 05:07 PM) Freddy is gonna command 12-15 million when he becomes a free agent. He's not coming back to the White Sox. I was thinking more towards the end of his career, aka Alomar.

Usually, you can also refinance after leaving the dealership. I have shopped my loan a couple times after leaving a new car dealer with the car. Both times I wound up with different financing than when I started. Kudos on thinking about that. The cost of the loan is significant. The problem you will run into is needing the information on the car you are purchasing. You can not get a loan, usually, for more than the car is worth. So you can't get a loan for say $5,000 to buy a car without knowing what car you are buying.

excellent. Do you have a US agent?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 05:10 PM) OMG!!1!!11!!! Theres street crime in former Eastern Bloc countries?!?!!! SAY IT AINT SO!!!!!!! Somehow, according to you, we're better off that they aren't under soviet rule. Wouldn't it be even better if they lived even better? I think we swapped one set of problems for another. Clearly you felt the former Soviet regime was more dangerous than the current trio of India, Pakistan, and North Korea. I believe these three are more dangerous.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 04:45 PM) Hmmn. Tens of thousands of nuclear warheads no longer targeted at us? Check Millions of people on the continent of Europe free as opposed to being under the thumb of Communisim? Check. Hundreds of pounds of nuclear material missing, nuclear scientists for sale, Check India, Pakistan, and North Korea all with nukes, Check. Former USSR countries and their robust economies now that the citizens are out from under the rule of communism. Check. Increasing crime in those same countries, check.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) Yep. That map would look real good on the radio. Did his TV show get cancelled? I'll bet it was a plot by the liberal media.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) Sometimes you gotta get some dirt on your hands if you want the job done. When the end was ridding the world of Soviet Communisim its pretty hard to find means that aren't justifiable. Some of our friends on the payroll included Bin Laden, Hussein, Noriega, and lesser known, but no less evil people of all races and creeds. I'm not convinced we are any safer with the fall of the Soviet Union.

Bozo circus, now that was a scary place. Let's just start with the relay race where boys had to put on dresses and heels and run.

Ahh, the Halcion® days when we thought we had a rotation to rival the Braves of the 1990s. Mark, Freddy, Jon, Jose, and ol' what's his name were going to be around for years and years making us a perennial WS favorite. Best of luck to you Freddy. I bet you will be back.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) you know its a slow offseason when there's three f***ing pages of Runelvys Hernandez talk. three pages? check your board settings and move them up if you have broadband. 50 per page is nice. I'm not close to excited about a guy who never was for a season. Flashes are nice, but at his age, sign him to help down on the farm(s), but if he sniffs the 25-man for an extended stint, we are probably in trouble.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 03:59 PM) "While many feel the situation in Iraq is an unwinnable one, the President still stands firm in his belief that the United States will prevail. However, his view may be in the minority when compared to the rest of the country." There was a different way to say it without trying to slam the President. We get it, you don't like Bush, think he is dumb, think he is the devil, Hitler, whatever. I like your version better. Of course we both know that Rush would attack that and show a pretty map that shows most of the country agrees with Bush and call this media bias.

Hell, she was out of the news until this. Will she ever go away?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 03:54 PM) If I'm on that plane, I'm going make damn sure someone knows what those jackasses are doing before that plane leaves the ground. I don't care who likes it or not. Perhaps Northside is right that now the terrorists have won if we react to all people of Middle Eastern looks with suspicion and react as YASNY states he will. But, there is danger in the other extreme. Ignoring obvious threats because they are middle eastern and not wanting to offend, is just as dangerous. What the Imams did IMO, is a modern day "the sky is falling". While we can't single someone out simply by how they look, their actions are suspicious. And before the question is raised, suspicions are raised when people see something out of place or unusual. Their actions certainly were unusual. I've flown literally tens of thousands of miles and I have never witnessed a group prayer like this, of any faith. We are told to report suspicious activity to the proper authorities. I'm with YAS, I would report it. I would also expect the authorities to act in the proper manner and with all due respect for the innocent people being questioned.

I'm smelling two wrongs here. When the police do this poorly, they call it entrapment. From reading the articles, my guess is the Imams knew their behavior would be viewed as suspicious and pushed those buttons. I think that is wrong, and harmful to the greater good of our society. The airline and the passengers took the bait, and acted in a manner which showed some prejudice towards the Imams. While I dislike prejudice and bigotry, I dislike even more people creating situations and then suing. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Torture is the only way to get the truth

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QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 01:20 PM) Interesting discussion. I think another form of bias is what is considered news in the first place. Most of the time the stories that are covered aren't really news at all. Laci Peterson is the greatest example of whats wrong with this country. Is it said that she was killed? Absolutely. Did it need a year of complete, 24/7 coverage? Hell no. Compound that with the 'Do Nothing Congress' passing the Laci Peterson Act in like two weeks, even though they couldn't get anything important done in two whole years. I think now that money is involved and cable news is so big, 'news' is being created by the media. Whatever sells papers/commercials is considered news. Everything else is just everyday life that doesn't matter, even though it should. Good points. The media has a tightrope to walk, tell a story and no follow up and they get slammed, too much follow up and they get slammed. The biggest evil is they are competing for money. Money that comes from readership and ratings. The Soviet Union solved all this by creating their own state run media. Unbiased coverage directly from the source. Can't get any better than that. I believe, overall, the media is honest and principled at it's core. Some outlets use a reporting style that attracts a more mature audience, others a younger, likewise for other demographics including conservatives and liberals. But politicians are trying so hard to have the citizens reject anything negative about them by shooting the messenger. That is far more dangerous to our country than if the wording was slightly left or right of center.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 10, 2006 -> 12:44 AM) I was wondering if anyone would know wtf I was talking about. And thanks for the link. Haven't seen that in years. Ray Rayner Rulz!!!!!! Those both are so cool.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 12:50 PM) Tex, it is biased when the reporter interjects opinion into it. When Clinton scolded the nation with his 'i didn't screw monica' rant, did Brit Hume report that 'Clinton is talking crazy-talk there', or 'I don't know what Kool-aid he's drinking, but maybe he should share'? No, they didn't. She was interjecting her opinion when Bush said that he thought we could still win. He not only drank the Kool-aide but made it' inplies that SHE thinks not only is he nuts, but it is his own doing. And while that OPINION may be true, it does not belong in the news, from a REPORTER. And yes, there are many instinces where the lines are blurred, but when you sign off 'reporting from the white house', that sounds pretty clear what it was supposed to be. The phrase drinking the Koolaid, is, by itself, distasteful, but I guess most people using it do not know the circumstances that brought this into the lexicon. There are better ways to say that President Bush believes the lies he has told. How would you make that statement in a non-biased way? Would you have objected to the phrase "President Bush now seems to believe the information he has told"? And I'll bet if we searched all the stories about Clinton, we'd have found plenty of examples that mirror this. Almost everything that is reporter is opinion. Take this phrase In a bloody firefight this morning twelve soldiers died . . . Shall we change bloody? Is firefight too graphic? should we say murdered? should we say heroic death? should we mention somewhere all the people that didn't die?