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Dick's on live from Cheyenne

they wanted people to think they were having sex with a goat?? I'll bet all the Kentuckians on the list will be proud of their state after reading this

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) Whittington is speaking now. He looks fine. Isn't answering any questions

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 11:57 AM) Ah-ha. I'm like NASA, I get English and metrics confused at inappropriate times. Mrs. FlaSoxx is researching false advertising claims along the same lines . . .

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 11:15 AM) This is my first, and probably only, post in this thread but I felt I had something to add. All service members, in addition to budgeted raises, get automatic pay hikes when they reach certain levels of time in service. You get a hike at 2,3,4 years then every other year until you're done unless you sit at the same rank for too long then your pay for that grade will cap out. Using myself as an example, Im currently a Staff Sergeant and approaching my 8 year anniversery. Once I hit it ( September 1st of this year ) my base pay will go from 2465 a month to 2685 ( a hike of 8.9% ). Not included are the tax-free allowances for food and housing which amount to roughly 1000 a month for my area. Point of all that number crunching is that the pay hikes proposed in the budget are not the only time we get a raise. You are in a great union* There are so many jobs in the public sector that are underpaid, weighing the risks against the financial rewards, a first year soldier in a war zone has to be the most underpaid person in the US. Of course the guys they are shooting are probably even worse off. Less pay and s***ty weapons. *won't be his only

I am certain the Bush Administration has looked into this, and if they are comfortable, then I am. I can't believe they went into this blindly.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 11:30 AM) A 19-page thread dedicated to a hunting accident? BTW, if you are on broadband, you can change the number of posts per page to a higher number. This is only a 6 page thread

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 11:18 AM) I totally agree in disclosing as much as you can as fast as you can. However, how fast is fast enough? It is very easy to look back after everything has played out and say: "They could have done this or that faster or different." The thing about all of this is, HE JUST SHOT A FRIEND. Put yourself in those shoes. How long would it take for the shock to wear off? How long before you got your bearings? I cannot imagine shooting a friend in the face, and seeing them in the ICU. Then, to come up with the perfect way of doing things? I would try to give myself as much time as possible to be able to clearly discuss what happened. On the surface, that certainly makes sense, until you realize what his primary job responsibility is and why we have a Vice President. Should we be worried that it would take the Vice President of the US almost a day to collect himself and be able to comment? What would he do if Bush died suddenly and he had to take charge?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 11:18 AM) We've been doing targeted killings of terrorists ever since 9/11. I guess the prerequisite for doing some necessary dirty work is losing 3000 of your own citizens in a single attack huh? Then change the laws. Do it above board, and legally. The GOP has control, introduce a bill that we will assasinate terrorists on site. Let the world know we will not follow International Laws. We will operate the same as the terrorists, so we can stop terrorism.

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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:55 AM) http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?p...A61251-2001Oct2 This is why people trust Republicans to handle security affairs more than Democrats. While they dithered around splitting hairs over legal technicalities Bush would have simply scooped him up and eliminated him.........either that or whacked him with a Predator Drone. I guess you don't have a problem with the President authorizing illegal activities that would violate US and International Law?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:51 AM) I think you're a bit mistaken there. The Checkers speech was given in 1952. Watergate was in 1972. Bob was 9 years old and Carl was 8. Oops, you are correct. Thank you for pointing that out.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:25 AM) Dude, you got every one of those wrong! I'm not voting as my favorite, but as "rock" songs and Baba O'Reilly is a rock song, I have a problem with the Beatles choices here. And how could we not have had Stairway in the mix? Classic Rock.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:23 AM) The truth is Bill Clinton was a pussy in 1998

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:20 AM) So did the bombing of the Air Force barracks in Saudi Arabia in 1996, the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 and the Cole bombing in 2000. And don't forget Oklahoma City

perceived cowardice. That is an interesting thought. It seems like we have spent a lot of our grandchildrens tax dollars on sending troops all over the world to kill people. Putting all that on balance, anyone that perceives Americans as cowards is pretty stupid. And I don't think we can set policy for that. We took over a country and there are still people that would perceive the US as not taking action?

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:01 AM) I thought this was funny: The ABC radio National "Top of the hour" news led with the Cheney story for the 5th day. The story this morning was that he was making his first public speech since the incident, which happens to be in his home state of Wyoming. The had a clip of someone from there: "If I was him I'd be embarrassed. That'd be like me accidentally shooting a friend of mine." I'm like, "Well, yeeeeaahhh. Brilliant, buddy." except you don't have an ambulance on call . . .

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 06:37 PM) You are born in America, you are American. Which is why the border hospitals are full of Mexican citizens going into labor on the US side and delivering their babies here. Him playing for the DR would have been a farce. A-Rod has never been on a Championship team, I am certain almost any team would rather have Crede, who has won a championship, than A-Rod. Plus they would get the Rally Crede, which is invaluable.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 09:18 AM) Average 37,038... Are you on crack? Maybe four million

The next question will be the difference between paid and actual.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 08:54 AM) I love how everyone thinks that things should have been done a certain way, and what was done is never good enough. That's my point. It seems you think it should have been done the way it was and that the American public should just accept whatever explaination the government has. That is certainly a way it could work, and has worked in many countries. Is there an example of someone here who posted and didn't think it should have been done a certain way? Either the way it was or an alternate? I believe in total disclosure as fast as possible. Others believe that the government shouldn't have to answer to the American public, or if they do, on whatever time table the government wants. As I stated earlier, either one works, I just believe we are better served when the American public, via the media usually, is kept informed and there are no government secrets beyond certain obvious national security ones. When anyone in our government seems to have something to hide, I think we are best served when there are verified answers. Using some golden oldie examples, when Nixon gave his Checker's speech, most Republicans were satisfied and wish Bob and Carl would STFU. When CLinton gave his Monica speech, most Dems were satisfied and wished the press would have STFU. And if the press did STFU, we still would have survived. Ford would never have been President. Monica's blue dress would not have been the foder for late night humor. But our nation would have kept tugging along. So maybe government secrets aren't such a bad idea. Maybe telling the press to just report what the government releases is a good idea. Maybe we are making our leaders too responsible. *If* Chaney was drunk, it was still an accident, and he was on vacation, and everyone did make the choice to hunt with him. So who does need any more explaination?

I guess I want my government open and responsive to the people. This is the White House and certainly they are smart enough to know that Chaney not appearing for an extended period of time would cause people to wonder. What would I have loved to see? ASAP Chaney appears on camera, saying Oh s***, I shot my buddy by mistake. I understand there will be questions about the shooting, the person shot, my involvement and condition, and probably a few things we haven't thought of. So here goes For privacy reasons, and to give him time to speak with his family to assure them that he is ok, we are not identifying the victim. I am certain at a later date he will come forward and answer questions, but I can say that he is a private citizen and we need to respect his privacy in the matter. Please keep him and his family in your prayers tonight. Doctors have assured me he is fine and will have a complete recovery. The accident happend at 5:32 PM when I blah blah blah I have *voluntarily* submitted a blood sample to local authorities to stop any speculation in that arena. game.set.match to the Texans and the American way of life.

1. Thou shall not rent the movie Chocolat. 2. Under no circumstances may two men share an umbrella. 3. Any man who brings a camera to a bachelor party may be legally killed and eaten by his fellow partygoers. 4. When you are queried by a buddy's wife, girlfriend, mother, father, priest, shrink, dentist, accountant, or dog walker, you need not and should not provide any useful information whatsoever as to his whereabouts. You are permitted to deny his very existence. 5. Unless he murdered someone in your immediate family, you must bail a friend out of jail within 12 hours. 6. You may exaggerate any anecdote told in a bar by 50 percent without recrimination; beyond that, anyone within earshot is allowed to call B.S. (Exception: When trying to pick up a woman, the allowable exaggeration rate rises to 400 percent.) 7. If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off-limits forever. 8. The minimum amount of time you have to wait for another guy who's running late is five minutes. For a woman, you are required to wait 10 minutes for every point of hotness she scores on the classic 1-10 scale. 9. b****ing about the brand of free beer in a buddy's refrigerator is forbidden. You may gripe if the temperature is unsuitable. 10. No man is ever required to buy a birthday present for another man. In fact, even remembering a friend's birthday is strictly optional. 11. Agreeing to distract the ugly friend of a hot babe your buddy is trying to hook up with is your legal duty. Should you get carried away with your good deed and end up together, your pal is forbidden to speak of it, even at your bachelor party. 12. Before dating a buddy's ex, you are required to ask his permission and he, in return, is required to grant it. 13. Women who claim they "love to watch sports" must be treated as spies until they demonstrate knowledge of the game and the ability to pick a buffalo wing clean. 14. If a man's zipper is down, that's his problem --- you didn't see nothin'. 15. The universal compensation for buddies who help you move is beer. 16. A man must never own a cat or like his girlfriend's cat. 17. Your girlfriend must bond with your buddy's girlfriends within 30 minutes of meeting them. You are not required to make nice with her gal pal's significant others --- low-level sports bonding is all the law requires. 18. When stumbling upon other guys watching a sports event, you may always ask the score of the game in progress, but you may never ask who's playing. 19. When your girlfriend/wife expresses a desire to fix her whiny friend up with your pal, you may give her the go-ahead only if you'll be able to warn your buddy and give him time prepare excuses about joining the priesthood. 20. It is permissible to consume a fruity drink only when you're sunning on a tropical beach...and it's delivered by a topless supermodel...and it's free. 21. Unless you're in prison, never fight naked. 22. A man in the company of a hot, suggestively dressed woman must remain sober enough to fight. 23. If a buddy is outnumbered, outmanned, or too drunk to fight, you must jump into the fight. Exception: If within the last 24 hours his actions have caused you to think, "What this guy needs is a good ass-whoopin'." Then you may sit back and enjoy. 24. Never hesitate to reach for the last beer or the last slice of pizza, but not both. That's just plain mean. 25. If you compliment a guy on his six-pack, you better be referring to his beer. 26. Never talk to a man in the bathroom. 27. If a buddy is already singing along to a song in the car, you may not join him. 28. Before allowing a drunken friend to cheat on his girl, you must attempt one intervention. If he is able to get on his feet, look you in the eye, and deliver a "leave me alone!" you are absolved of your responsibility.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 09:57 AM) I'd never buy a jeep either. They got a boatload of build issues. That said, the Wranglers have ridiculous resale value and are supposed to be very good when it comes to off-roading. Another option would be going with an old school Land Rover cause those are supposed to be very good off road vehicles. I don't know if that would be too pricy though. I took a long drive up the beach and see a lot of Trackers and Jeeps. Of course being Texas, the F150 fleet was out in force, so maybe a pickup is the way to go. I know my V10 monster isn't the vehicle.

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