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QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:23 AM) The truth is Bill Clinton was a pussy in 1998

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:20 AM) So did the bombing of the Air Force barracks in Saudi Arabia in 1996, the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 and the Cole bombing in 2000. And don't forget Oklahoma City

perceived cowardice. That is an interesting thought. It seems like we have spent a lot of our grandchildrens tax dollars on sending troops all over the world to kill people. Putting all that on balance, anyone that perceives Americans as cowards is pretty stupid. And I don't think we can set policy for that. We took over a country and there are still people that would perceive the US as not taking action?

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:01 AM) I thought this was funny: The ABC radio National "Top of the hour" news led with the Cheney story for the 5th day. The story this morning was that he was making his first public speech since the incident, which happens to be in his home state of Wyoming. The had a clip of someone from there: "If I was him I'd be embarrassed. That'd be like me accidentally shooting a friend of mine." I'm like, "Well, yeeeeaahhh. Brilliant, buddy." except you don't have an ambulance on call . . .

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 06:37 PM) You are born in America, you are American. Which is why the border hospitals are full of Mexican citizens going into labor on the US side and delivering their babies here. Him playing for the DR would have been a farce. A-Rod has never been on a Championship team, I am certain almost any team would rather have Crede, who has won a championship, than A-Rod. Plus they would get the Rally Crede, which is invaluable.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 09:18 AM) Average 37,038... Are you on crack? Maybe four million

The next question will be the difference between paid and actual.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 08:54 AM) I love how everyone thinks that things should have been done a certain way, and what was done is never good enough. That's my point. It seems you think it should have been done the way it was and that the American public should just accept whatever explaination the government has. That is certainly a way it could work, and has worked in many countries. Is there an example of someone here who posted and didn't think it should have been done a certain way? Either the way it was or an alternate? I believe in total disclosure as fast as possible. Others believe that the government shouldn't have to answer to the American public, or if they do, on whatever time table the government wants. As I stated earlier, either one works, I just believe we are better served when the American public, via the media usually, is kept informed and there are no government secrets beyond certain obvious national security ones. When anyone in our government seems to have something to hide, I think we are best served when there are verified answers. Using some golden oldie examples, when Nixon gave his Checker's speech, most Republicans were satisfied and wish Bob and Carl would STFU. When CLinton gave his Monica speech, most Dems were satisfied and wished the press would have STFU. And if the press did STFU, we still would have survived. Ford would never have been President. Monica's blue dress would not have been the foder for late night humor. But our nation would have kept tugging along. So maybe government secrets aren't such a bad idea. Maybe telling the press to just report what the government releases is a good idea. Maybe we are making our leaders too responsible. *If* Chaney was drunk, it was still an accident, and he was on vacation, and everyone did make the choice to hunt with him. So who does need any more explaination?

I guess I want my government open and responsive to the people. This is the White House and certainly they are smart enough to know that Chaney not appearing for an extended period of time would cause people to wonder. What would I have loved to see? ASAP Chaney appears on camera, saying Oh s***, I shot my buddy by mistake. I understand there will be questions about the shooting, the person shot, my involvement and condition, and probably a few things we haven't thought of. So here goes For privacy reasons, and to give him time to speak with his family to assure them that he is ok, we are not identifying the victim. I am certain at a later date he will come forward and answer questions, but I can say that he is a private citizen and we need to respect his privacy in the matter. Please keep him and his family in your prayers tonight. Doctors have assured me he is fine and will have a complete recovery. The accident happend at 5:32 PM when I blah blah blah I have *voluntarily* submitted a blood sample to local authorities to stop any speculation in that arena. game.set.match to the Texans and the American way of life.

1. Thou shall not rent the movie Chocolat. 2. Under no circumstances may two men share an umbrella. 3. Any man who brings a camera to a bachelor party may be legally killed and eaten by his fellow partygoers. 4. When you are queried by a buddy's wife, girlfriend, mother, father, priest, shrink, dentist, accountant, or dog walker, you need not and should not provide any useful information whatsoever as to his whereabouts. You are permitted to deny his very existence. 5. Unless he murdered someone in your immediate family, you must bail a friend out of jail within 12 hours. 6. You may exaggerate any anecdote told in a bar by 50 percent without recrimination; beyond that, anyone within earshot is allowed to call B.S. (Exception: When trying to pick up a woman, the allowable exaggeration rate rises to 400 percent.) 7. If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off-limits forever. 8. The minimum amount of time you have to wait for another guy who's running late is five minutes. For a woman, you are required to wait 10 minutes for every point of hotness she scores on the classic 1-10 scale. 9. b****ing about the brand of free beer in a buddy's refrigerator is forbidden. You may gripe if the temperature is unsuitable. 10. No man is ever required to buy a birthday present for another man. In fact, even remembering a friend's birthday is strictly optional. 11. Agreeing to distract the ugly friend of a hot babe your buddy is trying to hook up with is your legal duty. Should you get carried away with your good deed and end up together, your pal is forbidden to speak of it, even at your bachelor party. 12. Before dating a buddy's ex, you are required to ask his permission and he, in return, is required to grant it. 13. Women who claim they "love to watch sports" must be treated as spies until they demonstrate knowledge of the game and the ability to pick a buffalo wing clean. 14. If a man's zipper is down, that's his problem --- you didn't see nothin'. 15. The universal compensation for buddies who help you move is beer. 16. A man must never own a cat or like his girlfriend's cat. 17. Your girlfriend must bond with your buddy's girlfriends within 30 minutes of meeting them. You are not required to make nice with her gal pal's significant others --- low-level sports bonding is all the law requires. 18. When stumbling upon other guys watching a sports event, you may always ask the score of the game in progress, but you may never ask who's playing. 19. When your girlfriend/wife expresses a desire to fix her whiny friend up with your pal, you may give her the go-ahead only if you'll be able to warn your buddy and give him time prepare excuses about joining the priesthood. 20. It is permissible to consume a fruity drink only when you're sunning on a tropical beach...and it's delivered by a topless supermodel...and it's free. 21. Unless you're in prison, never fight naked. 22. A man in the company of a hot, suggestively dressed woman must remain sober enough to fight. 23. If a buddy is outnumbered, outmanned, or too drunk to fight, you must jump into the fight. Exception: If within the last 24 hours his actions have caused you to think, "What this guy needs is a good ass-whoopin'." Then you may sit back and enjoy. 24. Never hesitate to reach for the last beer or the last slice of pizza, but not both. That's just plain mean. 25. If you compliment a guy on his six-pack, you better be referring to his beer. 26. Never talk to a man in the bathroom. 27. If a buddy is already singing along to a song in the car, you may not join him. 28. Before allowing a drunken friend to cheat on his girl, you must attempt one intervention. If he is able to get on his feet, look you in the eye, and deliver a "leave me alone!" you are absolved of your responsibility.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 09:57 AM) I'd never buy a jeep either. They got a boatload of build issues. That said, the Wranglers have ridiculous resale value and are supposed to be very good when it comes to off-roading. Another option would be going with an old school Land Rover cause those are supposed to be very good off road vehicles. I don't know if that would be too pricy though. I took a long drive up the beach and see a lot of Trackers and Jeeps. Of course being Texas, the F150 fleet was out in force, so maybe a pickup is the way to go. I know my V10 monster isn't the vehicle.

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QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) No sense in living in the past...? I agree it's all bulls*** and they are all cream of the crop bulls*** dishers.. but 2 wrongs don't make a right Kap. In order to make changes to make the future better we have to correct things as they happen. No? The fastest change will happen when Dems stop making excuses for "their people" and the GOP stops making excuses for "their people".

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 08:36 AM) Yeah, I know. Theres some people out there who would whine to the press about a White House conspirasy if they slipped on a bananna peel in their own kitchen. And some would complain when a White House conspiracy was found, that it was a liberal biased media conspiracy . . .

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 07:02 AM) Could you please point out where in the Texas hunting code it saids that you have to report hunting accidents to the press, and how long is proper to wait for a news confrence afterwards? The government is under no obligation to report this. That is true. If that is how you believe the government should operate, in secrecy, that is certainly a valid method. In the US we have a long history of not allowing the government to hide stuff and operate in secrecy. I don't think it would be a step forward when the Veep can shoot someone and be able to hide that information. I also believe it would be state law to report a shooting, but I may be wrong. Maybe the victim has to report the shooting. Is a hunting accident less of a story than a blow job? Than a petty breaking and entering at an office (Watergate). An accident is not much of a story, a drunk VP shooting someone is a story. How will the American public know the difference? We could just accept the White House explaination, and for many that is reasonable. But of course that would be the GOP fans. Same as the Dem fans felt a blow job was a non story. But so far Clinton brought up? check Vince Foster? check Al Gore? check media blamed? check Sounds like a GOP victory. Who needs a free press when you have news releases from the government?

Just so no Sosa, retire and hide.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 08:42 PM) The point is any soundbite you use when you talk like this on foreign soil especially will go straight to recruting people to come and kill US. But apparently, it's ok, and he gets a pass. WTF ever. You are worried about recruiting people to come to the US to kill us? Ahhh, isn't taking over Iraq a better recruiting tool? Kap, they can make s*** up and attach Bush's name, Gore's name, your name, my name. This is a non issue for recruiting people to come kill us.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) My biggest complaint with Gore's speech is not what he said, but where he said it. If he wants to give a speech here in the U.S. to spur policy changes, that's one thing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:44 AM) What about notification of the lawyers family? Shouldn't that be taken into consideration when determining when to go to the press with something like this? Absolutely YAS. BREAKING NEWS . . . the White House is reporting that VP Dick Chaney accidentaly shot an unidentified guest at the blah blah blah. The guest is being attended to . . . identification of the accident victim is pending notification of relatives. Happens all the time and I am certain Chaney's people knew how to word the release. Which would have been better: Notification via press release in an hour and Chaney appears before the American public, shaken and apologetic ~or~ Notification almost a day later? One of our great freedoms is we have literally thousands of eyes, via a free press, that keeps their eyes on our government, and has the freedom and protection to report on almost everything. Nixon "I am not a crook" Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that. Boris and Natashia "well that clears that up. we'll STFU" Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that Boris and Natashia "well that clears that up, we'll STFU Vince Foster sadly died of an apparent suicide Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that Boris and Natashia "how about a vodka and cavier?" Vice President Dick Chaney accidentaly shot a guest Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that Boris and Natashia "well no story here, we'll STFU They may not be perfect, no human is, but it keeps us free.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 03:04 AM) She's about as far from center as Michael Moore. And just as relevant. I have about the same respect for both of them. They are Howard Stern without the talent. Seriously, if the address change didn't result in her voting in an election she wasn't entitled to, I don't think it's that big of a deal and it certainly doesn't seem like voter fraud was her intent. Now if for some bizarre reason, and I can't think of one, there are a hundred voters registered at that address, I'd be interested, but this is just kind of sad when someone thinks they have to hide from the government.

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A top level government official shoots someone and the press shouldn't report anything other than the official government account. The public is expected to accept without questioning the official government account. Does that happen in the United States Russia Saudi Arabia All I am saying is this should be a non story. Dick Chaney should have appeared as soon as possible after the accident, explained the terrible mistake, offered to take a drug and alchohol test and been forthright. When they try and hide it, it looks like they have something to hide. And yes, there is some predictible behavior here. Some liberals want the whole story, enjoy the jokes, and are critical of the long delays. Some conservatives will blame the media, and defend anything their guy does. In my lifetime, it's the first time a Veep has shot someone, maybe that isn't newsworthy to y'all, but it sure is interesting to me. And it is uncommon, but understandable. I believe it happens a lot more than the 2.7%, but most time the range is further and it doesn't draw blood.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 05:03 AM) Terrell Owens is football's version of Sammy Sosa. Sammy Sosa needed to illegally enhance his physical tools TO needs to enhance his personality and attitude Other than that, they are both tools, you are correct. Shall we start an all-idiots team thread?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 01:12 AM) Just in case you are forgetting, this was damn hunting accident. This s*** happens all over the country all the time. f***ing Al Gore was in Saudi Arabia batmouthing the US for abusive treatment of Arabs and this damn Cheney s*** is all the media can think about. Let's let an ex-vp go overseas and inflame even more Arabs against America and Americans so they'll run to Iraq and join the insugency, with minscule press coverage. But let Cheney have an accident and the f***ing media is swarming like vultures. There's an example disgusting for you. LMAO still. In case you forgot the other was a damn blow job between two adults. That s***s happens even more frequently, and it turned out to be the most expensive in history. Would you have so quicky accepted the hunting accident explaination if it was Ted Kennedy? John Kerry? Al Gore? But the American public should just accept the hunting accident story. Because the government never lies So that's the new rule, we always accept the WH story when someone gets shot What is amazing is if the lawyer had given Chaney a blow job instead of getting shot, that's news and a special prosecutor would be assigned. Gotta love conservatives, they will defend anything their party does, just like Cub fans.

LMAO. Let's look at two events Bill Clinton accepts a blow job, and we invest hundreds of millions of dollars and a special prosecutor, and hold impeachment proceedings. Vince Fosters name comes up. The Veep shoots a man, and the press should STFU No need to investigate, trust the government on this one. Nothing here, look the other way. Nothing serious. gotta love us Americans.